Skip to main content
Games Radar Newsarama Total Film Edge Retro Gamer
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+ The smarter take on movies
UK EditionUK US EditionUS CA EditionCanada AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
Gaming Magazines
Gaming Magazines
Why subscribe?
  • Subscribe from just £3
  • Takes you closer to the games, movies and TV you love
  • Try a single issue or save on a subscription
  • Issues delivered straight to your door or device
From$12
Subscribe now
Don't miss these
A young James Bond smirks in 007 First Light with the GamesRadar+ Big in 2026 branding frame
Action Games 007 First Light will do something no Bond game has done before – slow down: "Players might be surprised"
Dwayne Johnson in Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
Adventure Movies Jumanji 3: Release date, cast, plot speculation, and everything else we know about the upcoming adventure sequel
From left to right: Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye; Don Cheadle as Rhodey; Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark; Chris Evans as Steve Rogers; Karen Gillan as Nebula; Rocket Raccoon; and Paul Rudd as Scott Lang in Avengers: Endgame.
Movies The 30 best movies on Disney Plus to watch right now
Ralph Fiennes as Dr. Kelson in 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple
Horror Movies 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple review: "The wildest and weirdest entry into the franchise yet"
Riz Ahmed as Hamlet
Drama Movies Hamlet stars Riz Ahmed and Morfydd Clark on their "urgent and exciting" Shakespeare adaptation
Oona Chaplin as Varang in Avatar: Fire and Ash
Sci-Fi Movies Avatar: Fire and Ash review: "Still a technical marvel, with some of the year's best action filmmaking"
Josh O'Connor and Daniel Craig in Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Mystery Movies Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery review: "Brings Knives Out back to its roots for a sequel that's almost on a par with the original"
Neytiri and Jake Sully in Avatar: Fire and Ash
Sci-Fi Movies Avatar 4 release date, cast, plot, and everything else you need to know
Oona Chaplin as Varang in Avatar: Fire and Ash
Sci-Fi Movies Avatar: Fire and Ash ending explained: who dies, what happens to Varang and Quaritch, and if it sets another Avatar film
Mission Impossible movies in order: Tom Cruise as Ethan Hunt hanging from a wire during the first Mission Impossible movie.
Mission Impossible Movies How to watch the Mission: Impossible movies in order
Marlon Brando and James Caan in The Godfather
Streaming Services The 20 best movies on Paramount Plus to watch right now
Matt Damon as Odysseus in armour in The Odyssey
Drama Movies Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey release date, cast, trailer, plot, and everything else we know
Oona Chaplin as Varang in Avatar: Fire and Ash
Sci-Fi Movies Avatar: Fire and Ash reviews, plot, cast and everything else you need to know about the sci-fi sequel
Year in Review: The Best of 2025 main listing image for Best Movies of 2025 featuring images from Weapons, Superman, Sinners, and The Long Walk
Movies The 25 Best Movies of 2025
The poster for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring with a close-up of Elijah Wood as Frodo Baggins
Lord of the Rings Movies 25 years later, and I'm fully convinced there'll never be a greater adaptation than The Lord of the Rings trilogy
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
  1. Entertainment
  2. Movies

On-set: Pirates Of The Caribbean 4

Features
By Andy Lowe published 19 April 2011

Total Film plunges the depths with Depp et al

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Johnny Depp goes for the custard...

Johnny Depp goes for the custard...

Total Film is refuelling in the catering tent at Pinewood. It’s October 2010 and Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides is approaching land (close to wrapping).

We’re mid-way through a tour of the gigantic 007 sound-stage, currently hosting the key Pirates set-ups: full-size galleon, oaken throne-room, barrel-lined grog joint.

The mood is triumphant, if a little guarded. Schedules are unbending, with journalists strictly chaperoned. Break-taking crew members shift laughter to whisper as we enter earshot.

We’re film journalists, after all. And film journalists haven’t been kind to the Pirates Of The Caribbean franchise.

It’s the movie world’s Da Vinci Code – loved by millions yet sneered at by critics who see it as little more than an overstretched unit-shifter risen way above its station (a 38-year-old theme-park ride).

But in an era where guaranteed star bankability is in decline, Pirates has stayed afloat because of an audacious central turn from an actor who seems to be more at play than work.

Will we get to chat to Mr Depp? It’s unlikely, says the unit publicist. Johnny’s call sheet doesn’t leave room for interviews. But now, there he is, in full Captain Jack costume. Going for the custard…

Page 1 of 10
Page 1 of 10
"The drinks would arrive around 1am. Wed go on until 5 in the morning.

"The drinks would arrive around 1am. Wed go on until 5 in the morning.

Back in 2002, Disney producers took a bleak view of Jack.

They hated how Depp turned what they perceived as a deft and dapper swashbuckler into a raffish, rum-addled buffoon. And then they saw the accounts.

Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl was, in Hollywood terms, a gamble. Could the cultish Depp open a mainstream movie?

Were audiences still wincing at 1995’s atrocious Cutthroat Island ready to embrace the pirate genre again? Would the PG-13 certificate slice off an unsustainable chunk of youth audience?

The film cost $170m to make and took $650m at the global box-office. Two sequels – 2006’s Dead Man’s Chest and 2007’s At World’s End – were shot back to back.

The first popped a $1bn global gross and currently sits as the fourth highest-grossing film of all time. The second is the ninth highest-grossing film of all time.

Page 2 of 10
Page 2 of 10
We thought the first movie would be the last"

We thought the first movie would be the last"

It was a trilogy in search of a quadrilogy and, although the key characters and story threads were more or less tied up within Pirates 1, 2 and 3, cold, hard economics trumps fuzzy artistic logic every time.

“We thought the first movie would be the last,” says series screenwriter Terry Rossio over barnacle-stripping coffee in the production office.

“But as the success became more obvious, we dropped in various threats and back stories and unfinished business.

"One of those things was the idea of Jack and Barbossa in competition to discover the Fountain Of Youth.”

And so, Jack shacks up with pirate-ess Angelica (Penélope Cruz) – a fiery old flame who needs his help in finding the fabled spring.

Of course, Jack’s nemesis Barbossa (Geoffrey Rush) would like a sup at the eternal cup himself – as would scary pirate lord Blackbeard (Ian McShane).

It’s a treasure hunt with everlasting life as the prize.

Page 3 of 10
Page 3 of 10
The one thing we couldnt change is Jack"

The one thing we couldnt change is Jack"

This time, Gore Verbinski has vacated the director’s chair for Rob Marshall, hired by producer Jerry Bruckheimer to steer through the first Pirates movie to be shot in 3D.

And while it’s hardly Elizabeth At Sea , Marshall and writer Rossio have introduced a keener historical edge, with characters like King George II (Richard Griffiths), King Ferdinand VI of Spain (Sebastian Armesto) and McShane’s take on Blackbeard – an infamous, 18th-century West Indies pirate.

“The one thing we couldn’t change,” says Rossio, “is Jack. That would have been a mistake. He’s always been a trickster character and we had to carry that through.

And with Johnny, there’s no need to embellish the performance on the page because you know that he’ll do it all himself.

We took a lot from Tim Powers’ book On Stranger Tides, which focused on Blackbeard and the Fountain Of Youth. We also wanted a romantic foil for Jack – someone who could meet him on his own terms, with wordplay as well as swordplay.

Johnny had a lot of input into creating scenes, storylines, situations. We had lots of creative dinners.

They’d normally start at 11pm, the drinks would arrive around 1am and we’d go on to around 5 in the morning – usually at some incredibly opulent LA restaurant.”

Page 4 of 10
Page 4 of 10
It was all Johnnys idea

It was all Johnnys idea

On top of the obligatory 3D aspect, this time – get ready to roll your eyes – there are zombies. Rossio shrugs. “People might be cynical, but I think it’s consistent with the tone of the movies so far.

"We’ve had romance, humour, comedy, adventure, ghosts. We’ve had skeletons, pirates shooting people, monsters… We’re trying to make it macabre – scary but fun, instead of out-and-out gory. I know zombies seem a little overused, but they do fit with that ambition.”

The sceptics may sneer – as they did a few days before our visit when Depp turned up, unannounced and in full make-up, at a school in Greenwich after a nine-year-old girl wrote to ‘Captain Jack’, asking if he could lead a mutiny against her teachers.

Oh, how calculating! Think of the free publicity! Disney must have told him to do it…

“It was all Johnny’s idea,” says the unit publicist. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer concurs. “The letter moved him,” he says.

“It was fun for Johnny and great for her – a story she’ll tell for the rest of her life. Only around six people knew he was doing it. He wanted to keep it that way.

"But I guess one of the kids had a camera and took pictures...”

Page 5 of 10
Page 5 of 10
"This one is a bit more like a Bond movie..."

"This one is a bit more like a Bond movie..."

Bruckheimer has a reputation for bristling over franchise related questions. But he cheerfully confirms Pirates 5 (“We’re working on the story right now”) and is unashamed of the decision to continue the series.

“The success made the decision,” says Bruckheimer. “The first three feel like a unit of movies, so we wanted this to be more of a stand-alone.

"New cast, new characters. I’m aware of the criticism that the third movie was too complicated and this is our way of addressing that – fewer characters, freshen things up.”

“I think the accusations of complexity are a little unfair,” says Terry Rossio. “No one complains that something like Lost is too complex. They love it because their understanding of the different layers make them feel like real fans.

"But this one is a bit more like a Bond movie – it’s informed by what’s come before but it’s not part of a sequence. It’s a single story. So I guess that makes it a bit more approachable.”

Page 6 of 10
Page 6 of 10
"He has a close encounter with her cleavage

"He has a close encounter with her cleavage

Total Film’s tour of the set is conducted by the ideal guide – the guy who designed it all. John Myhre was brought in by Marshall after working with him (and Cruz) on tepid musical Nine.

He’s joyfully indiscreet about plot details… “It all starts in the big city,” gushes Myhre. “With Jack being captured by King George.

"He’s brought into the castle and, of course, escapes from a situation where he couldn’t possibly escape.

"We see him running through the streets of London and there’s a big centrepiece carriage chase. And Jack is leaping from carriage to carriage.

"This is a big, busy movie. We have around 100 different sets and locations. We haven’t been bored!”

We trail Myhre into the artfully distressed interior of the ale-house where Captain Jack first encounters Angelica (“He has a close encounter with her cleavage”).

Withered candles, tank-sized tankards, creaking teak floors smeared with crust and dust...

“Jack’s entrance is terrific. We see the door open and a shadow cast – the unmistakable sword and dreadlocks.”

Myhre herds us into the main soundstage housing Blackbeard’s ship, a sinister frigate garlanded with gilded spine bones.

The morbid decor extends to the interiors – skeletal chandeliers, pelvic chairs, humeral hand-rails. Myhre chuckles with pride.

Further through the soundstage, a hangar-sized hall is monopolised by a motion-controlled gimbal rig, a fully dressed room that can be tilted and pivoted to 15 degrees.

“That doesn’t sound like much, but when you’re running around, trying to act and remember your fight moves, it’s a lot.”

Page 7 of 10
Page 7 of 10
"They are a magnificent pair of shoes..."

"They are a magnificent pair of shoes..."

Tour concluded, we’re back in the catering tent when Depp’s arrival prompts craning necks and pretend-nonchalant murmurs. And there he is, going for the custard.

One of the world’s most famous men ladling steaming vanilla gloop into a bowl of sponge-something.

“Would Johnny mind,” we ask of our ever-vigilant unit publicist, “if we sidle over, maybe fall into conversation?” The unit publicist looks up at Johnny, smiles. Johnny settles down with his sweet.

Or rather, Tony Angelotti, Depp’s spookily identikit stunt double, settles down with his dessert. The penny drops, the buzz cools. Angelotti removes his hat and digs in.

The unit publicist assures Total Film that he really, really will try to sneak us a few minutes with Real Johnny Depp.

We scoff at the idea. But later, after half an hour of squinting into a monitor as Johnny/Jack is repeatedly hauled before King George, Depp wanders over.

He’s twinkly-eyed but oddly deferential, like a teenager being introduced to his girlfriend’s parents. Medium-strength handshake. Faint smell of lavender.

We fixate on his pirate shoes. He notices. “They are a magnificent pair of shoes, aren’t they?” He grins. “Quite heavy, too!”

Page 8 of 10
Page 8 of 10
"Its kind of the same, but different"

"Its kind of the same, but different"

How has he found all of this – stepping into Captain Jack’s elaborate shoes one more time?

“The whole thing has been a gas. I can’t think of a bad thing to say about it. I love getting into this character. I love the physical language.

"It’s kind of the same, but different – because this time, we’re working with Rob [Marshall], who is very kind and collaborative, with fantastic ideas and a great handle on the… shape of the story.”

Is it true that he’s contributed to script revisions? “Yeah! It’s like going into a think-tank,” mumbles Depp (you have to lean in to hear him).

“Just kind of throwing ideas around. If something sparks, it sparks and it gets accepted. It was all part of Jerry [Bruckheimer] wanting to make things a little different, more than just another sequel.”

Is he tempted to refine the winning Jack formula? Tweak the character a little? “Well…” he grins. “There is the sex change.”

Laughter. Unit publicist: “Spoiler alert!” Depp (Unlucky Alf from The Fast Show impersonation): “Bugger!” He composes himself.

Page 9 of 10
Page 9 of 10
"We did Blow a few years ago"

"We did Blow a few years ago"

“I honestly think that Captain Jack found himself a long time ago. I don’t think there’s any more room to tweak him. He’s hit a wall. It’s made it more fun, working with different people.

"Penélope is great. She’s more than a match for Jack. We’ve worked together before. We did Blow a few years ago…”

More laughter. “Uh, I mean we did the film Blow together. That would have been a headline, wouldn’t it!”

A man in headphones is beckoning from the set. Depp offers a comically courteous farewell.

“I think we should let the good Captain get some rest,” says the unit publicist.

“Rest?” says Depp, with a twinkle. “What’s that?

Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Strangers Tides is released in the UK on May 18.

Page 10 of 10
Page 10 of 10
Andy Lowe
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Whatsapp
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
GamesRadar+
Get the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter
Read more
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle screenshot showing Indiana looking out pensively, with GamesRadar+'s Best of 2025 logo in the top right-hand corner
"Stay true to your gut": Indiana Jones and the Great Circle dev on making a successful adventure for such an iconic hero
 
 
Daisy Ridley as Ava in We Bury the Dead
We Bury the Dead director says Star Wars' Daisy Ridley was "pushed to her limit" shooting the new zombie horror
 
 
Harry Melling and Alexander Skarsgård as Colin and Ray in Pillion
Leave your expectations for Alexander Skarsgård's new movie Pillion at the door: it's steamy and sexy, but it's so much more than a rom-com
 
 
Nick, Gary, and Judy in Zootopia 2
The Zootropolis 2 team on bringing reptiles into the Disney sequel, and why new character Gary De'Snake is the movie's Yoda
 
 
Nick and Judy in Marsh Market in Zootopia 2
Zootropolis 2 creators brought almost 200 characters to the screen for the sequel and drew inspiration from Disney's "incredible legacy," including Jungle Book and Robin Hood
 
 
Diego Luna as Cassian Andor, wearing an Imperial pilot suit in Andor season 2, with a GamesRadar+ best of 2025 logo in the top right corner
Andor creator Tony Gilroy on being named GamesRadar+'s TV Show of 2025, what might tempt him back to Star Wars, and how it feels to have made the year's most politically urgent piece of art
 
 
Latest in Movies
Chris Hemsworth as Mike in Crime 101
Thor: Ragnarok duo Chris Hemsworth and Mark Ruffalo re-team to play "yin and yang" thief and cop in Crime 101
 
 
Dylan O'Brien as Bradley in Send Help
Sam Raimi had creative "disagreements" with one of his Send Help stars, but the director ultimately admitted he was wrong
 
 
Kenneth Branagh as Nikolai Ustinov and Ryan Reynolds as Lieutenant Troy "Assassin" Kelly in Mayday
Ryan Reynolds and Kenneth Branagh are unlikely allies in first look at buddy comedy from Dungeons and Dragons directors
 
 
John Cena as Chris Smith AKA Peacemaker in Peacemaker season 1.
Apple unveils first look at Peacemaker star John Cena in upcoming Matchbox The Movie based on the classic toys by Mattel
 
 
It Follows
3 years after it was announced, Longlegs star gives promising update on horror sequel They Follow
 
 
Ane Dahl Torp and Lea Myren in The Ugly Stepsister
The Ugly Stepsister's makeup team definitely earned their Oscar nomination, as one scene almost made them "vomit on set"
 
 
Latest in Features
Nioh 3 samurai deflects an arrow
I was going to play the Nioh 3 demo for 30 minutes – I played 5 hours, and this Soulslike is blowing me away at 120 FPS
 
 
Fallout: New Vegas
Fallout New Vegas was a 2010 GOTY for me, and a sequel would be perfect timing for where the TV show is heading
 
 
The Nintendo Switch 2 / Switch Virtual Boy accessory shown in its reveal trailer.
Just 10 minutes with Switch 2's Virtual Boy relaunch made me realize I've been underestimating it this whole time
 
 
King Boo traps players in webs in Super Mario Bros Wonder for Switch 2
Super Mario Bros. Wonder Switch 2 Edition adds some major Mario Party vibes, feeling like a worthy expansion
 
 
A closeup of Grace Ashford in Resident Evil Requiem from the first key art of her
9 games to watch out for this month
 
 
Two armies clashing on a coastal region in Civilization 7 ahead of its Test of Time update
One year after Civilization 7 tried to fix the strategy genre's biggest problem, Firaxis is meeting fans in the middle
 
 
  1. Key art for Highguard showing Kai riding a bear, Atticus with the Shieldbreaker, and Scarlet, crouched, aiming down sights
    1
    Highguard review: "A fresh but muddled FPS genre mashup that needs refinement if it's to have any staying power"
  2. 2
    This hidden role board game makes me feel like a puppet master, so Traitors fans should listen up
  3. 3
    Cairn review: "This climber has a grip on me – even when it loses its footing with awkward systems, the challenge remains surmountable"
  4. 4
    The Doom Arena Board Game is hell on Earth (in the best way) | Preview
  5. 5
    This award-winning board game is a five star must-have
  1. Return to Silent Hill protagonist James Sunderland
    1
    Return to Silent Hill review: "Neither an impressive adaptation nor coherent enough to act as a standalone film"
  2. 2
    28 Years Later: The Bone Temple review: "The wildest and weirdest entry into the franchise yet"
  3. 3
    Avatar: Fire and Ash review: "Still a technical marvel, with some of the year's best action filmmaking"
  4. 4
    Five Nights at Freddy's 2 review: "We have waited two years for a Five Nights at Freddy's 1.5"
  5. 5
    Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery review: "Brings Knives Out back to its roots for a sequel that's almost on a par with the original"
  1. Yahya Abdul-Mateen II as Simon Williams in Wonder Man.
    1
    Wonder Man review: "A low-key gem that's up there with the MCU's best"
  2. 2
    Starfleet Academy review: "It may feel a little different to what we're used to, but this is Star Trek through and through"
  3. 3
    A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms review: "This Game of Thrones spin-off is a surprisingly heartfelt and fun return to Westeros"
  4. 4
    Stranger Things season 5 finale review: “Shows off both the best and the worst of Hawkins”
  5. 5
    Stranger Things season 5, Volume 2 review: “All set up for a finale that has so much to deliver”

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google
  • About Us
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Terms and conditions
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility Statement
  • Careers

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...