Skip to main content
  • TotalFilm
  • Edge
  • Newsarama
  • Retrogamer
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • More
    • PS5
    • Xbox Series X
    • Nintendo Switch
    • Nintendo Switch 2
    • PC
    • Platforms
    • Tabletop Gaming
    • Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Newsletters
    • About us
    • Features
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
Don't miss these
Count Strahd von Zarovich with glowing red eyes lounges in a throne while holding a glass of blood in his clawed hand, a feast of bones on a table in front of him
Tabletop Gaming Move over Baldur's Gate, Ravenloft: The Horrors Within brings back the most iconic D&D setting
A skeletal Red Wizard of Thay fires green magic, while outlined in white
Tabletop Gaming D&D is finally paying off a decade-long storyline with its new "Wizard War" books
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 finale review: “Shows off both the best and the worst of Hawkins”
Jamie Campbell Bower as Vecna in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5, Volume 2 review: “All set up for a finale that has so much to deliver”
A boar-like demon, a wizard with glowing eyes, a vampire, and a snake-like monster divided by white lines
Tabletop Gaming Everything revealed for D&D 2026 GAMA show, from Ravenloft return to wizarding war
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 reviews, cast, plot, and everything else you need to know about the final season of the Netflix show
Baldur's Gate 3 companion Shadowheart, a young woman with braided black hair and plated armor, smirking while glancing to the side
Fantasy Shows Baldur's Gate 3 TV show: Everything we know so far about the upcoming HBO fantasy series
Winona Ryder as Joyce and Noah Schnapp as Will in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 finale explained: who dies, does it set up a spin-off and what happens to Eleven?
Will Byers and Vecna in Stranger Things season 5
Supernatural Shows Where is the Mind Flayer? What is Vecna really planning with the Abyss, and 6 other questions I need answered in the Stranger Things season 5 finale
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven, David Harbour as Hopper and Linnea Berthelsen as Kali in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 part 2 ending explained: who dies, what is the Upside Down, and how does it set up the finale
Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas, Sadie Sink as Max, Noah Schnapp as Will, and Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows I love Stranger Things, but I can't help feeling short-changed by season 5's lacklustre finale
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things creators admit they started filming season 5 without a finished script for the finale
Stranger Things
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things' Conformity Gate continues with its wildest theory yet, and it's all about Balatro for some reason
Jamie Campbell Bower as Vecna in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Movies Stranger Things nearly saw Vecna switch sides until the Duffer Brothers changed their minds
Matthew Modine as Dr. Martin Brenner in Stranger Things 4
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things' Papa star Matthew Modine didn't enjoy the finale, and hopes Confrmity Gate is real "for the fans"
  1. Entertainment
  2. TV
  3. Sci-Fi Shows
  4. Stranger Things

Stranger Things theory uses Dungeons & Dragons to predict an even bigger villain in season 5

News
By Lauren Milici last updated 12 July 2022

The worst is yet to come

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Vecna in Stranger Things 4
(Image credit: Netflix)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Get the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter

A new Stranger Things fan theory posits that, while Vecna seems all-powerful and undefeatable, season 5 might just bring us something even worse.

Warning: Spoilers for Stranger Things season 4, volume 2 ahead!

Dungeons & Dragons is used as a self-referential plot device in Stranger Things. The fantasy tabletop roleplay game first debuted in 1974, originally designed and developed by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson. The players create their own characters, and interact with elements and characters of the game's universe by way of problem-solving and battle (it's often seen as one of the best tabletop RPGs ever made). Mike, Will, Lucas, and Dustin play a 1984 edition of the game.

You may like
  • Jamie Campbell Bower as Vecna in Stranger Things season 5 Baldur's Gate 3 boss responds to his RPG being used as inspiration for Stranger Things season 5 finale
  • Jamie Campbell Bower as Henry Creel in Stranger Things season 5 Stranger Things season 5 originally included a scene where Hopper and Joyce discussed their connection to Vecna
  • Jamie Campbell Bower as Henry Creel in Stranger Things season 5 Stranger Things season 5 finally reveals what the Upside Down actually is, though the stage show did it first in 2023

TikTok user Ivan Mars theorized that, if Mike and co. are using the game to predict each new villain they come across – the worst has yet to come.

@itsivan_mars

♬ Browser History OST - Jai P.

Season 1 brought us the Demogorgon, with season 2 introducing us to even more terrifying Mind Flayer. Stranger Things season 4 gave us Vecna aka Henry aka 001, a fellow Hawkins Laboratory patient with psychic abilities that managed to harness the Upside Down's power after being trapped there by Eleven. This is not far off from who he is in D&D, with his character being a wizard who turned himself into a frightening undead creature in order to gain immortality.

In the TikTok, Mars says that – despite the chaos and death and destruction he brought into Hawkins – Vecna is not, in fact, the most powerful villain in Dungeon and Dragons. According to Mars (and the D&D Dark Sun Wiki via Fandom) the most powerful villain is a Red Dragon by the name of Borys.

According to the Dark Sun Fandom, Borys has scales that glow red with the heat of magma and clouds gather beneath his wings like a storm of fire. In the final moments of season four, we see dark clouds roll over Hawkins, red lightning, and fire beginning to consume the city.  Nancy told the gang that when Vecna showed her his evil plan, she saw "a dark cloud spreading over Hawkins, downtown on fire, dead soldiers, and this giant creature with a gaping mouth." Now that the Upside Down is open, anything is possible. Anything can be unleashed. We'll just have to wait and see.

Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

For more, check out our list of Stranger Things season 4, Volume 2 Easter eggs for cool details and references you might have missed. You can also check out the best Stranger Things merch here, or the best Dungeons and Dragons books overall.

CATEGORIES
Netflix Streaming Services
Lauren Milici
Lauren Milici
Social Links Navigation
Senior Entertainment Writer

Lauren Milici is a Senior Entertainment Writer for GamesRadar+ based in New York City. She previously reported on breaking news for The Independent's Indy100 and created TV and film listicles for Ranker. Her work has been published in Fandom, Nerdist, Paste Magazine, Vulture, PopSugar, Fangoria, and more.

Read more
Jamie Campbell Bower as Vecna in Stranger Things season 5
Baldur's Gate 3 boss responds to his RPG being used as inspiration for Stranger Things season 5 finale
 
 
Jamie Campbell Bower as Henry Creel in Stranger Things season 5
Stranger Things season 5 originally included a scene where Hopper and Joyce discussed their connection to Vecna
 
 
Jamie Campbell Bower as Henry Creel in Stranger Things season 5
Stranger Things season 5 finally reveals what the Upside Down actually is, though the stage show did it first in 2023
 
 
Will (Noah Schnapp) and Robin (Maya Hawke) in Stranger Things season 5 volume 1
First Stranger Things season 5 volume 2 clip features a new plan to take down Vecna
 
 
Joe Keery and Gaten Matarazzo in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Stranger Things season 5 vol 2 trailer teases Vecna's new world order
 
 
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven, David Harbour as Hopper and Linnea Berthelsen as Kali in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Stranger Things season 5 part 2 ending explained: who dies, what is the Upside Down, and how does it set up the finale
 
 
Latest in Sci Fi Shows
3 Body Problem
Game of Thrones creators' spenny Netflix sci-fi show is reportedly getting a reduced episode count for seasons 2 and 3
 
 
Louis Hofmann in Dark
Creators of Dark are reuniting for "cruel reality" thriller that sounds like a mix of Black Mirror and True Detective
 
 
The main cast of Firefly
21 years after it ended, Firefly fans are hoping that teasers for a March announcement mean it's finally returning
 
 
Yoda in Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
Yoda would have covered up Jedi deaths in The Acolyte, and its showrunner has the Clone Wars receipts to prove it
 
 
Seth MacFarlane in The Orville
Seth MacFarlane says an entire new season of The Orville has been written, but Ted could be dead
 
 
A stylized version of Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader in Star Wars: Detours
Seth Green says his unseen Star Wars series would need to be "upgraded" for streaming
 
 
Latest in News
Dragon Quest 11
Dragon Quest creator says English is "a simple language," so "the flavor tends to get lost" when translating games
 
 
Resident Evil Requiem
Resident Evil Requiem is too scary for series veteran Hideki Kamiya, who argues Capcom "should make a 'non-scary' mode"
 
 
Yoshi and the Mysterious Boook screenshot of Yoshi smiling with eyes closed
The next big Switch 2 exclusive, Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, gets a May release date out of nowhere
 
 
Monkey D. Luffy looking confused on an island in One Piece Egghead Island
One Piece season 2 answers a near 30-year-old manga mystery in surprisingly straightforward fashion
 
 
Runescape
MMO raises subscription prices less than 2 months after ditching microtransactions, causing a RuneScape fan revolt
 
 
One Piece
One Piece season 2 is a live-action adaptation to treasure as it debuts to perfect Rotten Tomatoes score
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Monkey D. Luffy looking confused on an island in One Piece Egghead Island
    1
    One Piece season 2 answers a near 30-year-old manga mystery in surprisingly straightforward fashion
  2. 2
    Corsair's two best gaming chairs have been hit with discounts in Amazon's Spring sale
  3. 3
    Resident Evil Requiem is too scary for series veteran Hideki Kamiya, who argues Capcom "should make a 'non-scary' mode"
  4. 4
    The next big Switch 2 exclusive, Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, gets a May release date out of nowhere
  5. 5
    MMO raises subscription prices less than 2 months after ditching microtransactions, causing a RuneScape fan revolt

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility Statement

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...