Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information, you confirm you are aged 16 or over, have read our Privacy Policy and agree to the Terms & Conditions. Geographical rules apply.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • Home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Entertainment
  2. TV
  3. Action Shows
  4. Marvel TV Shows
  5. Loki

Is Mobius an Odin variant? This week’s Loki episode introduces the show's wildest theory yet

News
By Bradley Russell published 3 November 2023

Does Asgard have jet-skis?

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Owen Wilson as Mobius in Loki
(Image credit: Marvel Studios)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

Warning - the following features Loki season 2 spoilers.

Mobius: company man, jet-ski lover, key lime pie eater. As we discover in Loki season 2, episode 5, he is also Don, a salesman at Piranha Watersports in Cleveland, Ohio. That’s not all we find out about Owen Wilson’s Loki bestie, however. He has two sons – and it’s a curious parallel that has led some to leap to the conclusion that Mobius is either an Odin variant or a playful reminder to what Loki used to have.

When Loki tracks Don to his home in the hopes of convincing him to save the TVA, we see the doting dad wrestle with his son Kevin getting hold of matches, while then convincing his other child, Sean, to go after him.

Latest Videos From
Watch full video here:

"If you keep him from burning down the house, I’ll get you a puppy," Don tells Sean. The reply? "And a snake!"

Loki, of course, just loves causing chaos for no reason. Thor, the more trusted brother, has his own history with snakes: in Norse mythology, his fate is closely tied with that of the World Serpent and in Thor: Ragnarok, he recounts a story of how his brother tricked him by turning into a snake because he “loves snakes.”

To add to the comparisons further, the kids both have a bike each, one red and one – you guessed it – green.

It’s an interaction that has led some to believe that, even if it’s not a literal variant, the comparisons between Don and Odin are obvious.

Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

“Mobius’ kids are Thor and Loki. Kevin is Loki, plays with fire, burns his toys, runs away, and has a green bicycle. Sean is Thor, has a red bicycle, is counted on to bring his brother under control, and loves snakes,” one wrote on Reddit.

“Is #Mobius the #Odin of his reality???” another pondered on Twitter. “He has 2 boys on his timeline. One son that's mischievous and another son that loves snakes... This can't be a coincidence.”

someone posted a screencap of don’s kids and they have a red bike and a green bike oh mobius has to be an odin variant I’m yellingNovember 3, 2023

— hollowcrowned on November 3, 2023

We’ll even throw in our own silly theory for good measure: Odin = I, Don. Mind blown? Not quite but, hey, it’s the sort of wild speculation that has us all picking apart every frame of the MCU.

In truth, though, it’s likely serving as a reminder of Loki’s past – and what he now has to save. Yes, even the snakes.

For more on the show, which is currently airing on Disney Plus, check out the guides on how to watch the Marvel movies in order, Marvel Phase 5, and the Loki season 2 review.

Today's best Disney+ deals
Disney+
Disney+ Monthly with Ads
$11.99
/mth
View
at Disney+
Disney
Disney+, Hulu Bundle - Monthly (With
$7.99
$12.99
/mth
View
at Disney+
Disney+
Disney+ Monthly Premium
$18.99
/mth
View
at Disney+
TOPICS
Disney Plus
CATEGORIES
Disney Plus Streaming Services
Bradley Russell
Bradley Russell
Social Links Navigation
Senior Entertainment Writer

I'm the Senior Entertainment Writer here at GamesRadar+, focusing on news, features, and interviews with some of the biggest names in film and TV. On-site, you'll find me marveling at Marvel and providing analysis and room temperature takes on the newest films, Star Wars and, of course, anime. Outside of GR, I love getting lost in a good 100-hour JRPG, Warzone, and kicking back on the (virtual) field with Football Manager. My work has also been featured in OPM, FourFourTwo, and Game Revolution.

Latest in Marvel TV Shows
Ben Kingsley as Trevor Slattery and Yahya Abdul-Mateen II as Simon Williams in Wonder Man.
Marvel TV Shows Wonder Man director teases the "crazy journey" Trevor Slattery and Simon Williams could go on in season 2
 
 
Nic Cage in Spider-Noir, holding a mask
Marvel TV Shows Nicolas Cage doesn't know if Spider-Noir will return for season 2 "We’ll see what happens"
 
 
Andrew Garfield
Marvel TV Shows Spider-Noir star Nicolas Cage has revealed his favorite live-action Spider-Man, and it's not who I was expecting
 
 
Charlie Cox as Daredevil in Daredevil: Born Again season 2
Marvel TV Shows Marvel fans celebrate anniversary of one of the "top 5 casting[s] in the MCU"
 
 
Nicolas Cage as Ben Reilly in Spider-Noir
Marvel TV Shows Spider-Noir star Nicolas Cage was "adamant" about not doing TV, until he watched Breaking Bad
 
 
Nic Cage in Spider-Noir, holding a mask
Marvel TV Shows Marvel fans think there's a nod to Spider-Verse in the first few minutes of Spider-Noir
 
 
Latest in News
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend of Zelda Legend of Zelda fans eagerly await Ocarina of Time remake's take on the game's best freaks
 
 
Valor Mortis
Action Games GTA 6 scared so many games into September launches that other games are now getting scared into October
 
 
Star Wars The Phantom Menace
Star Wars Movies The Mandalorian and Grogu director says The Phantom Menace inspired one cool, subtle detail in the new Star Wars movie
 
 
A party of heroes gather in Final Fantasy Resonance
Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Resonance exists because a JRPG veteran was "frustrated" players ignored their game the first time
 
 
A still from the World of Warcraft: The War Within cinematic.
World of Warcraft As World of Warcraft players take on the Casino Bots, Blizzard is working on finding a solution
 
 
Palworld Pal looking shocked
Survival Games For Palworld 1.0, one dev would "force wipe everyone" if he could as players will "be missing out on content" otherwise
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Star Wars The Phantom Menace
    1
    The Mandalorian and Grogu director says The Phantom Menace inspired one cool, subtle detail in the new Star Wars movie
  2. 2
    If you need a break from your D&D campaign, this mischievous hobbit adventure is spot on
  3. 3
    A new RX 9070 has landed at Amazon in time for Prime Day, but I'd avoid following the Golden Rabbit
  4. 4
    For Palworld 1.0, one dev would "force wipe everyone" if he could as players will "be missing out on content" otherwise
  5. 5
    Total War: Warhammer 40K is getting a closed beta in 2026, and its latest reveal has sold me

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...