From Secret Invasion to the Black Widow movie releasing after Endgame, Marvel fans are discussing the MCU's biggest missteps

Captain America and Hulk
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Every time we thought Marvel was back and fighting fit, another entry set them back and left fans concerned about the future of the MCU. It's hard not to argue with them, really. After Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Avengers: Doomsday is the next film on the list, and we're not even sure who is on the roster for the original superteam. With issues like this, fans took to Reddit to discuss where the Marvel Cinematic Universe started to lose its way, and there are a few noticeable slips that highlight this.

The two issues the OP pointed out were "Delaying the release of the Black Widow movie for so long until AFTER Natasha dies in Endgame due to the power struggles between Feige and [former Marvel Entertainment CEO, Isaac] Perlmutter over creative direction," as well as "Diminishing Hulk overall as a character as soon as the Russos took over Avengers (the biggest thing I will give Joss Whedon credit for is that he knew what to do with Hulk and did it brilliantly in his two films)."

One fan argued, "Not having a proper crossover in Phase 4. So many of the ideas and characters that people actually liked in Phase 4 still haven’t been followed up on. Thunderbolts in some ways felt like the first proper crossover to take advantage of the MCU since Endgame." This led another fan to back up the point, adding, "Phase 4 still doesn't feel like it's ended to me, there was no finale to make me think that chapter is over. Now we're somehow in Phase 6. It just feels like one long Phase with nothing truly marking that transition."

Nick Staniforth
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Nick is a freelancer whose work can be found at Screen Rant, The Digital Fix, and Looper. He loves movies, TV, DC, and Marvel. He also believes that the best Robin Hood is still a talking fox.

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