Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information, you confirm you are aged 16 or over, have read our Privacy Policy and agree to the Terms & Conditions. Geographical rules apply.

Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Edge
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • Home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Edge
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • EDGE GTAVI exclusive
  • Join our monthly RPG Club
  • Golden Joystick Awards 2026
  • Deal of the Day
  • Countdown to GTA 6
  • RPG Hub
  • G+RLS Podcast
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Games
  2. RPGs
  3. Elden Ring

Elden Ring player creates the perfect build for using everything in the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC by using the strongest school of magic: math

News
By Ali Jones
Published 27 May 2024

It might not be optimized, but it's certainly versatile

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Elden Ring
(Image credit: FromSoftware, Emma Kent)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

An Elden Ring statistician has put together the perfect build path for players who want to experience everything coming to the game with the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC.

In a thread on Twitter, user dangitjim responded to a post from another Elden Ring player saying that they wanted "to be able to use everything cool in the DLC." Starting out with the classic advice to "level Vigor" for its substantial health increases, they quickly turn to what you mean if you "want to use everything that the DLC has to offer."

Assuming 'everything' means hitting the minimum stat requirements for every weapon and spell, dangitjim turns to the build you'd need to use everything in the base game. You'll need to reach at least level 212 to achieve that, and even that only happens by sacrificing a lot of that all-important Vigor. Level 60 Strength, 48 Dexterity, 70 Intelligence, 50 Faith, and 27 Arcane is how that build shapes up, with no points put into Vigor, Mind, or Endurance. You might be able to wield any spell or weapon, but you'll get swatted by anything that hits you if you try it.

Latest Videos FromGamesRadar+
Watch full video here:

As the hype starts to gear up for Shadow of the Erdtree's release, let's take some time for some stat education: 🧵#1) The HP jump from 40 to 60 Vigor [the softcap] yields an extra "450 HP" changing this build's health from 1450 to 1900 (an over 30% increase!)Level Vigor! https://t.co/muoHWnvPLqMay 21, 2024

"In essence," dangitjim explains "the best course of action for anyone who wanted to use everything in the DLC as soon as they got it would be to level very high and then respec with Rennala (to take away Mind or Endurance)." Leveling "very high" means getting at least as high as level 300, putting those extra points into some stats to actually keep you alive, before removing points from certain stats to put them wherever you need to use the new toys.

To get to that level threshold, it's recommended that you head to NG+7, and then hit up the best Elden Ring rune farming spot for "maximum returns." It's worth remembering, however, that this is far from being an optimized build, and that while it'll turn you into a true Jack Of All Trades for the DLC, you probably won't be using any new ability or weapon to its true potential.

You may like
  • Elden Ring screenshot of Fire Giant eyeball 4,000 hours into Elden Ring, streamer commissions a custom mod so he can beat it another 726 times
  • Elden Ring All the best Spells, Incantations and Sorceries in Elden Ring
  • Elden Ring Best weapons in Elden Ring

If you want a little extra advice, the thread ends with the suggestion that you shouldn't touch the stat-boosting Scarseals or Soreseals with a 10-foot pole due to the extra damage they subject you to, and that you should probably opt for the Green Turtle Talisman for its stamina boost that's useful for basically every build. And you can have some free advice from me - Vigor is important, so don't take a hug from any strange women around Roundtable Hold. 

As Miyazaki remains cagey about Shadow of the Erdtree's length, Elden Ring DLC theorists reckon the 30-song soundtrack is enough of a clue.

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
CATEGORIES
PC Gaming Xbox Series X PS5 Platforms Xbox PlayStation
Ali Jones
Ali Jones
Social Links Navigation
Managing Editor, News

I'm GamesRadar's Managing Editor for news, shaping the news strategy across the team. I started my journalistic career while getting my degree in English Literature at the University of Warwick, where I also worked as Games Editor on the student newspaper, The Boar. Since then, I've run the news sections at PCGamesN and Kotaku UK, and also regularly contributed to PC Gamer. As you might be able to tell, PC is my platform of choice, so you can regularly find me playing League of Legends or Steam's latest indie hit.

Read more
Elden Ring screenshot of Fire Giant eyeball
Action RPGs 4,000 hours into Elden Ring, streamer commissions a custom mod so he can beat it another 726 times
 
 
Elden Ring
RPGs All the best Spells, Incantations and Sorceries in Elden Ring
 
 
Elden Ring
RPGs Best weapons in Elden Ring
 
 
Malenia seen in Elden Ring's cinematic story trailer.
RPGs Nearly 10 million people have played Elden Ring for over 100 hours, analyst says
 
 
Elden Ring godrick the grafted boss fight cutscene holding a massive axe
RPGs How to defeat Godrick The Grafted in Elden Ring
 
 
Elden Ring Margit the Fell Omen boss facing Tarnished player
RPGs All main bosses in order to complete Elden Ring
 
 
Latest in RPGs
A black dragon roaring with a manor house behind it and lighting in the sky during Skyrim.
The Elder Scrolls Bethesda says sorry, no Sentinel news for Skyrim's anniversary – and none "for some time"
 
 
A man in a suit in The Outer Worlds 2's Side Effects Guaranteed DLC
RPGs Amid Bethesda takeover and Fallout pivot, Obsidian's finally making good on The Outer Worlds 2 DLC
 
 
Todd Howard
The Elder Scrolls Skyrim lead doubted Todd Howard’s constellation-based skill system, and then the RPG came out
 
 
Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Mass Effect Clair Obscur is a "good example" of why Mass Effect 5 doesn’t have to cost $200 million, former BioWare lead says
 
 
Karlach in Baldur's Gate 3
Baldur's Gate Skyrim vet says it "felt good" playing Baldur’s Gate 3 because decisions had "actual consequences"
 
 
A blue-armored enemy looks menacing in Beyond Nen on Roblox.
RPGs All Beyond Nen codes (November 2026) and how to redeem them for free spins
 
 
Latest in News
A black dragon roaring with a manor house behind it and lighting in the sky during Skyrim.
The Elder Scrolls Bethesda says sorry, no Sentinel news for Skyrim's anniversary – and none "for some time"
 
 
World of Warcraft: Forever
World of Warcraft Blizzard knows World of Warcraft: Forever has a gold problem
 
 
Astro Bot
Hardware Sony confirms the PS5 is closing in on the PS4, with 100 million consoles shipped
 
 
Wanda in Doctor Strange
Marvel TV Shows Marvel fans are calling the shock Avengers: Doomsday tease in VisionQuest "the best MCU post-credit scene of all time"
 
 
T'Nia Miller as Jocasta in the VisionQuest trailer
Marvel TV Shows The VisionQuest finale has a deleted scene that confirms that another major character is alive
 
 
 Aaron Pierre as John Stewart and Kyle Chandler  as Hal Jordan in Lanterns
DC TV Shows Lanterns showrunner was shocked to hear about James Gunn's DC departure and thinks a season 2 is now a "coin flip"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. The Super Cucco-findin' Game in the OoT Remake depends on speed and luck
    1
    How to find the Super Cuccos in the Zelda Ocarina of Time Remake
  2. 2
    Marvel fans are calling the shock Avengers: Doomsday tease in VisionQuest "the best MCU post-credit scene of all time"
  3. 3
    Sony confirms the PS5 is closing in on the PS4, with 100 million consoles shipped – and that's despite the shortages and price hikes
  4. 4
    The VisionQuest finale has a deleted scene that confirms that another major character is alive
  5. 5
    Lanterns showrunner was shocked to hear about James Gunn's DC departure and thinks a season 2 is now a "coin flip"

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • About us
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Terms and conditions
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...