Skip to main content
  • TotalFilm
  • Edge
  • Newsarama
  • Retrogamer
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • More
    • PS5
    • Xbox Series X
    • Nintendo Switch
    • Nintendo Switch 2
    • PC
    • Platforms
    • Tabletop Gaming
    • Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Newsletters
    • About us
    • Features
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
Don't miss these
Matthew Lillard as Stu Macher in Scream
Horror Movies Matthew Lillard has addressed his rather confusing Scream 2 cameo, all but confirming that it's not Stu Macher
Bill Skarsgård as Pennywise in the It: Welcome to Derry finale
Horror Shows It: Welcome to Derry season 2 is officially in the works, as showrunner promises "something greater" than season 1
Matthew Lillard as Stu Macher in Scream 1996
Horror Movies Scream 7 baits fans into thinking an underrated horror icon was finally getting his due – and I'm not happy about it
Nathan Gamble as Billy, Laurie Holden as Amanda, Jeffrey DeMunn as Dan, and Thomas Jane as David in Frank Darabont's The Mist
Horror Movies Upcoming Stephen King movies and TV shows in 2026 and beyond
Matthew Lillard as Stu Macher in Scream 1996
Horror Movies Scream fans are confused over Stu Macher's return to the franchise in Scream 7: "It’s still up in the air as always"
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 reviews, cast, plot, and everything else you need to know about the final season of the Netflix show
Corin Hardy directing Dafne Keen on the set of Whistle
Horror Movies Whistle director breaks down the gory horror movie's surprisingly sweet ending: "I wanted it to be gentle"
It: Chapter Two
Horror Movies It: Chapter Two star reteaming with his Barry collaborator for new original horror about a divorced dad
Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise the Dancing Clown in It: Welcome to Derry
Horror Shows It: Welcome to Derry Easter eggs and cameos: All the Stephen King and wider franchise references you might have missed
Matthew Lillard as Stu Macher in Scream 1996
Horror Movies New Scream 7 trailer shown in theaters calls back to the original and gives us our first look at Matthew Lillard's return
Ghostface in Scream 7
Horror Movies Original Scream 7 directors reveal plans they had to “f*** you up” with the sequel they never got to make
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven, David Harbour as Hopper and Linnea Berthelsen as Kali in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 part 2 ending explained: who dies, what is the Upside Down, and how does it set up the finale
Winona Ryder as Joyce and Noah Schnapp as Will in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 finale explained: who dies, does it set up a spin-off and what happens to Eleven?
It: Welcome to Derry
Horror Shows It: Welcome to Derry episode 8 explained – Who dies? How does it connect to The Shining?
Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise in It: Welcome to Derry
Horror Shows It: Welcome to Derry season 2: All we know so far about the HBO horror spin-off's second chapter
  1. Entertainment
  2. TV
  3. Horror Shows
  4. It: Welcome to Derry

It: Welcome to Derry showrunner says that surprise movie cameo was a "very, very last-minute" decision, and it changes the context of a terrifying Pennywise scene in It: Chapter Two

News
By Lauren Milici published 17 December 2025

Exclusive: Jason Fuchs explains the post-credits scene that has It fans rejoicing (and maybe also crying)

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

It: Welcome to Derry
(Image credit: HBO)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
0
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Get the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter

It: Welcome to Derry co-showrunner Jason Fuchs says that surprise Losers Club cameo in episode 8 wasn't in the original script... though now it makes one particularly harrowing scene in It: Chapter Two even more so.

Warning: Spoilers for It: Welcome to Derry episode 8 below!

"That was a very, very last-minute decision," Fuchs, who also wrote episode 8, tells GamesRadar+. "That scene came about in reshoots. Reshoots are a normal part of any big show or any film, but we were at the tail end of everything. And that was a scene that had been talked about a few times, just generally, like how do we have one more piece of architecture linking us to the films? We certainly had the Rich Tozier missing kids poster that popped up, but what was one other piece of the puzzle that could sort of build a bridge to the films and make it feel like this really takes you in many ways to the doorstep of It: Chapter One?"

You may like
  • It: Welcome to Derry It: Welcome to Derry showrunner breaks down episode 8 of the highly rated Stephen King spin-off
  • It: Welcome to Derry It: Welcome to Derry episode 8 explained – Who dies? How does it connect to The Shining?
  • Bill Skarsgård as Pennywise in the It: Welcome to Derry finale New It: Welcome to Derry deleted scene has fans wondering if Terri Bainbridge could be an important season 2 character

The cameo in question is none other than Sophia Lillis's Beverly Marsh, who is crying on the floor of a hospital room at Juniper Hill, staring up at her mother, who has tragically hanged herself. At the end of the season finale, we fast forward 27 years to an elderly Ingrid Kersh who, despite causing the deaths of over 20 Black residents of Derry at the hands of racists, suddenly seems like some kind, quiet old lady. It doesn't stay that way for long, however, as Ingrid hears the commotion down the hall and cheerfully goes to investigate. She finds Beverly on the floor next to her abusive father, who pulls away from her. Beverly looks up at Ingrid in tears, only for Ingrid to creepily say, "No one ever really dies in Derry."

You might recall that, in It: Chapter Two, Pennywise appears to an adult Beverly as an old woman known as "Mrs. Kersh." It's an awful scene, where Bev is made to feel guilty about the abuse at the hands of her father – the thing she fears most in this world. Well, now we know that Mrs. Kersh was more than just a random guise for Pennywise.

Continues Fuchs: "It also changes the context of that scene in It: Chapter Two, because now you're understanding, 'Oh, wait, the reason that It takes that guise in Chapter Two is not just about tormenting Beverly as it relates to her traumatic relationship with her dad.' It's actually scratching a very deeply repressed piece of trauma in the back of her brain, which is Mrs. Kersh, the person she met the day she suffered the most traumatic event of her young life to that point, which was the suicide, obviously, of her mom."

All episodes of IT: Welcome to Derry are now streaming on HBO Max in the US and NOW in the UK. For more on what to watch, check out our guide to the best new TV shows on the way in 2026.

Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
CATEGORIES
HBO Streaming Services
Lauren Milici
Lauren Milici
Social Links Navigation
Senior Entertainment Writer

Lauren Milici is a Senior Entertainment Writer for GamesRadar+ based in New York City. She previously reported on breaking news for The Independent's Indy100 and created TV and film listicles for Ranker. Her work has been published in Fandom, Nerdist, Paste Magazine, Vulture, PopSugar, Fangoria, and more.

You must confirm your public display name before commenting

Please logout and then login again, you will then be prompted to enter your display name.

Read more
It: Welcome to Derry
It: Welcome to Derry showrunner breaks down episode 8 of the highly rated Stephen King spin-off
 
 
It: Welcome to Derry
It: Welcome to Derry episode 8 explained – Who dies? How does it connect to The Shining?
 
 
Bill Skarsgård as Pennywise in the It: Welcome to Derry finale
New It: Welcome to Derry deleted scene has fans wondering if Terri Bainbridge could be an important season 2 character
 
 
Bill Skarsgård as Pennywise in the It: Welcome to Derry finale
It: Welcome to Derry fan has theory on that season 1 finale reveal, but others say they have "so many extra questions"
 
 
Matilda Lawler, Clara Stack, Blake Cameron James, and Amanda Christine as Marge, Lilly, Will, and Ronnie in the It: Welcome to Derry finale
IT: Welcome to Derry episode 8 ends with a clever twist that sets up season 2 and fixes my biggest prequel frustration
 
 
Finn Wolfhard as Richie Tozier in It: Chapter One
After that season 1 finale cameo, It star Finn Wolfhard reveals Richie Tozier is still "connected" to Welcome to Derry
 
 
Latest in Horror Shows
Bill Skarsgård as Pennywise in the It: Welcome to Derry finale
It: Welcome to Derry season 2 is officially in the works, as showrunner promises "something greater" than season 1
 
 
The Walking Dead
A Walking Dead revival series reuniting Rick, Michonne, Daryl, and Carol has been in discussion for a "couple years"
 
 
Sophie Thatcher as Natalie in Yellowjackets season 3, looking desperate as she calls for help with a satellite phone
Yellowjackets enters production on its final season with a cannibalistic teaser that hints at long-awaited answers
 
 
Cover of Universal Monsters Classics Collection featuring portraits of Dracula, Frankenstein, the Mummy, the Invisible Man, the Phantom of the Opera, and the Creature From the Black Lagoon
Scream 7 director is bringing the Universal monsters to Netflix in a show that's described as an "adult Vampire Diaries"
 
 
talk to me
New immersive 3D series based on A24's Talk to Me casts Rebel Moon, Ted Lasso, and Ozark stars
 
 
Gillian Anderson as Dana Scully and David Duchovny as Fox Mulder in The X-Files.
After 218 episodes I thought I was done with The X-Files – but Ryan Coogler's revival has dragged me back in
 
 
Latest in News
Steam logo from Valve
Valve says "more games are finding success" on Steam than ever, and nearly 6,000 made over $100,000 last year
 
 
Robert rides the elevator to work in Dispatch with his dog Beef, looking out of place surrounded by superheroes
Dispatch leads faced down publishers telling them single-player narrative games were "niche, or worse, dead"
 
 
Wonderer heads to the Spire in a screenshot from Slay the Spire 2's animated reveal trailer
Xbox lead thinks "we have been in a golden age for indies" since 2008, and it's "a fantastic time to be a developer" if you ignore all the smoke
 
 
Xbox - Future Owns
Xbox teases "some iconic games from the past" to be re-released in 2026 from its "game preservation team"
 
 
The cowboy cat from the desert in Mewgenics
Steam expert advises devs stick to the "Little League" section with friendslop before attempting anything like Mewgenics
 
 
Donkey Kong Bananza screenshot of Donkey Kong punching through the landscape with pieces of banana flying through the air
With Donkey Kong Bananza, Nintendo learned "it is more fun to destroy that which is beautiful"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Steam logo from Valve
    1
    Valve peels back the curtain in rare Steam presentation: "More games are finding success" than ever, and nearly 6,000 made over $100,000 last year
  2. 2
    Peaky Blinders: The Immortal Man director explains how the Netflix movie differs from the show: "Inherently, it is more cinematic in its conception"
  3. 3
    The Dispatch leads had "a mix of arrogance and stupidity" as they faced down publishers telling them single-player narrative games were "niche, or worse, dead"
  4. 4
    Xbox lead thinks "we have been in a golden age for indies" since 2008, and it's "a fantastic time to be a developer" if you ignore all the smoke: "The present is awesome"
  5. 5
    The Future Games Show returns this week - here's how to watch

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility Statement

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...