Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information, you confirm you are aged 16 or over, have read our Privacy Policy and agree to the Terms & Conditions. Geographical rules apply.

Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • Home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Golden Joystick Awards 2026
  • Join our monthly RPG Club
  • G+RLS Podcast
  • Game of the Week
  • Countdown to GTA 6
  • RPG Hub
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
  • Best gaming tech
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Games
  2. FPS Games
  3. Destiny
  4. Destiny 2

Destiny 2 streamers complain about new PvP matchmaking, but Bungie says it didn't change anything

News
By Alyssa Mercante
Published 25 August 2022

Well, what have we all learned from this experience?

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Destiny 2 Arc 3.0
(Image credit: Bungie)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

Destiny 2 PvP players were up in arms that skill-based matchmaking was affecting their matches, but it turns out Bungie hadn't turned it on just yet. Oops.

The start of Destiny 2 Season of Plunder was meant to bring with it the first implementation of skill-based matchmaking, a controversial topic as many players believe this turns matches into a "sweat-fest" where every player is just as good as them. While this seems like a logical way to setup matchmaking - pairing up players of similar skill - it's a major point of contention in Destiny 2 PvP circles. Those who aren't as skilled as top-tier Destiny 2 players have long complained about unfair matches, and feel as if skill-based matchmaking will prevent those players from pub stomping with impunity. 

A self-proclaimed solo player on the "upper end of the skill gap" wrote on Twitter that the new matchmaking  "is definitively unfun and a net loss." Another Twitter user posted a picture of a match where the majority of the players were clearly from another country and wrote "Ah yes, SBMM has definitely kicked in." Except, it hadn't. 

Latest Videos FromGamesRadar+
Watch full video here:

The latest This Week at Bungie stated that "loose skill-based matchmaking" would be implemented on all Control playlists at the start of the season, and it wasn't long before streamers and popular PvP players started complaining about it. It turns out, however, that there wasn't actually anything different going on behind the matchmaking scenes, because Bungie forgot to turn skill-based matchmaking on. I believe the kids call this "getting caught in 4K." 

CLARIFICATION: Before we resolved this issue, we identified that the implementation of Loose SBMM did not go live in Control yesterday. We were able to send out a fix with the new matchmaking settings detailed in this previous TWAB: https://t.co/MsSkOiUiHM https://t.co/3UKi2zowsaAugust 24, 2022

Skill-based matchmaking is officially now a part of Destiny 2 Control matches, so expect there to be more grumbling about it. At least now, however, the grumbling will be rooted in facts.

You may like
  • Two fighters jump down to attack a massive frog-like creature that has massive teeth and a tongue wagging out of its mouth in a screenshot from The Duskbloods. FromSoftware enters the SBMM debate with The Duskbloods, and plans on having ranked matchmaking
  • Bungie product head Josh Deane in black jacket Bungie says "we are not done with Destiny" and promises to restore all that content it deleted
  • Destiny 2 drifter Destiny 2 players on Steam boosted the game from 32nd place to 5th for US active users last month

After years of dismissing suspicion that PvP matchmaking would drastically change, Bungie announced it would be adding skill-based matchmaking to Destiny 2 last month. The goal is to ensure players will "regularly get matches where they can feel competitive and have a reasonable chance of winning/competing," which I can appreciate as a casual Destiny player who regularly gets stomped in PvP matches. "We believe that 90% of matches should have less than 20-kill difference between the best and worst players, and 50% should have no more than a 10-kill difference," Bungie wrote in the TWAB announcing SBMM. Here's hoping the new matchmaking setup will benefit all players along the skill ladder, from the sweatiest of sweats to newbies like me. 

Destiny 2 disables some grenade launchers after accidentally buffing them to the moon

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
CATEGORIES
PC Gaming PS4 Xbox One PS5 Xbox Series X Platforms PlayStation Xbox
Alyssa Mercante
Alyssa Mercante
Social Links Navigation
Former Features Writer

Alyssa Mercante used to be a features writer at GamesRadar+ and is now a freelance writer and editor. Prior to entering the industry, she got her Masters's degree in Modern and Contemporary Literature at Newcastle University with a dissertation focusing on contemporary indie games. She spends most of her time playing competitive shooters and in-depth RPGs and was recently on a PAX Panel about the best bars in video games. In her spare time Alyssa rescues cats, practices her Italian, and plays soccer.

Read more
Two fighters jump down to attack a massive frog-like creature that has massive teeth and a tongue wagging out of its mouth in a screenshot from The Duskbloods.
Action Games FromSoftware enters the SBMM debate with The Duskbloods, and plans on having ranked matchmaking
 
 
Bungie product head Josh Deane in black jacket
Destiny Bungie says "we are not done with Destiny" and promises to restore all that content it deleted
 
 
Destiny 2 drifter
Destiny Destiny 2 players on Steam boosted the game from 32nd place to 5th for US active users last month
 
 
Arc Raiders raider on blue and red background
Third Person Shooters Arc Raiders makes it official: "Only the PvP fights players choose to initiate" impact aggression
 
 
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 reveal trailer screenshot shows a figure wearing a mask with a skull design.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 beta hasn't started, but Call of Duty devs are already responding to fans over SBMM
 
 
Destiny 2 Gambit's Drifter
Destiny New Bungie leaders insist they are fixing the studio, tell players to "keep us accountable"
 
 
Latest in Destiny
Destiny 2 Gambit's Drifter
Destiny New Bungie leaders insist they are fixing the studio, tell players to "keep us accountable"
 
 
Bungie product head Josh Deane in black jacket
Destiny Bungie says "we are not done with Destiny" and promises to restore all that content it deleted
 
 
Destiny 2 Forsaken
Destiny Bungie shuts down leak claiming Destiny will be revived through a merger with Marathon
 
 
Destiny 2
Destiny Bungie's mantra was "I love playing Destiny. I hate that it’s not better" in the MMO's early years
 
 
Destiny 2 Episode 3 Heresy screenshot of Eris Morn
Destiny Bungie's studio is up for sublease after heavy layoffs, which doesn't bode well
 
 
Destiny 2 Cayde-6
Destiny Bungie reportedly had "5 or 6 games" in development, but most fell apart after Sony's acquisition
 
 
Latest in News
Xbox CEO Asha Sharma speaks on stage
Games "Xbox is not for sale," says CEO despite rumors: "We will do whatever it takes"
 
 
Rumi with a glowing eye and a broken web effect behind her, out of which climb demonic creatures in artwork from MTG KPop Demon Hunters
Tabletop Gaming MTG gets KPop Demon Hunters cards, and they're drop-dead gorgeous
 
 
Resident Evil Veronica trailer screenshot
Resident Evil Resident Evil remakes are building to a "crossover" with the new games, producer says
 
 
Dune: Awakening
Survival Games Dune Awakening boss says Denis Villeneuve feared the name "could be a little too close to Star Wars"
 
 
A screenshot of Jordan drinking a soda during the reveal trailer for Intergalactic: The Hertic Prophet.
Adventure Games Intergalactic The Heretic Prophet is "testing the bounds" of Naughty Dog, teases The Last of Us star
 
 
World of Warcraft: Forever
World of Warcraft World of Warcraft Forever cracks down on real-money trading, takes $200 worth of gold from streamer
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Xbox CEO Asha Sharma speaks on stage
    1
    "Xbox is not for sale," says CEO despite rumors: "We will do whatever it takes to set the company up for success"
  2. 2
    MTG gets KPop Demon Hunters cards, and they're drop-dead gorgeous
  3. 3
    Resident Evil remakes are building to a "crossover" with the new games, producer says
  4. 4
    Dune Awakening boss reveals movie director Denis Villeneuve once feared the survival game's name "could be a little too close to Star Wars"
  5. 5
    Blizzard is already cracking down on real-money trading in World of Warcraft Forever as devs take $200 worth of gold from alleged rule-breaker: "They left me with 9 silver"

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • About us
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Terms and conditions
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...