Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information, you confirm you are aged 16 or over, have read our Privacy Policy and agree to the Terms & Conditions. Geographical rules apply.

Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • Home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Buying Guides
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Videos
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
    • G+RLS Podcast
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Join our monthly RPG Club
  • Golden Joystick Awards 2026
  • Deal of the Day
  • Countdown to GTA 6
  • G+RLS Podcast
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
  • RPG Hub
Your movies and TV digest from the team at GamesRadar+

Sign up to The Watchlist newsletter for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we’ve got you covered.


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Entertainment
  2. Movies
  3. Action Movies
  4. Marvel Movies
  5. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Black Panther and Namor explained: Everything you need to know before they go to war in Wakanda Forever

Features
By George Marston
Published 11 November 2022

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever features the hidden nation going to war with a version of the lost kingdom of Atlantis - and that's straight out of comic books

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Black Panther #21 cover excerpt
(Image credit: Marvel Comics)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

Black Panther and Namor have history - what some might call beef, in fact. And now the fraught relationships between Black Panther and Namor and their two nations of Wakanda and Atlantis have come to the MCU in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.

Well, sorta. Rather than Atlantis, the MCU Namor's roots lie in a different watery realm: Talocan, derived from the mythical Aztec realm of Tlālōcān, the domain of the Aztec storm god.

Not only does this switch align with Namor actor Tenoch Huerta's own Indigenous Mexican ancestry, but it also separates Marvel's Namor from DC's Aquaman, whose solo film already brought a comic book adaptation of Atlantis to the big screen.

Latest Videos FromGamesRadar+
Watch full video here:

That said, Talocan and Wakanda are going to war just as Atlantis and Wakanda have done in comics, now that Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is officially in theaters.

But the adaptation of the story on film just scratches the surface of the comic history of the conflict between the two nations. We'll break it all down right here.

You may like
  • Robert Downey Jr. in Avengers: Infinity War Move over Endgame – Avengers: Infinity War might just be the most important MCU movie
  • Avengers: Secret Wars - three Spider-Men during the Marvel movie No Way Home Avengers: Secret Wars release date, cast, plot, and more news
  • Hawkeye, Captain America, and Black Widow in The Avengers (2012) 14 years later, it's still clear The Avengers should be a blueprint for any superhero crossover movie

The Lost Kingdom

Avengers vs. X-Men #7 panel

(Image credit: Marvel Comics)

Though we won't get into too much Marvel Atlantean history (especially since some of what's been shown in comics will undoubtedly change along with the MCU update of Marvel's Atlantis to Talocan), the TL: DR is that much like the real-world myth and the many versions of it you've seen everywhere from animated Disney movies to sci-fi TV shows and beyond, the Marvel Comics kingdom of Atlantis was once a scientifically advanced but decadent nation that was swept under the water but continued to thrive by adapting to life in the ocean.

There are multiple explanations of how Atlantis sank in the Marvel Universe - two of which could be particularly relevant to the events of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever given the preceding MCU films The Eternals and Thor: Love and Thunder.

Your movies and TV digest from the team at GamesRadar+

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we’ve got you covered.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

In the more common telling of the sinking of Atlantis, the Celestials are responsible for sending it beneath the waves alongside the Deviant kingdom of Lemuria during an event called the 'Great Cataclysm' when they once wiped the earth of sentient life.

In the other, Zeus and the other Olympian gods - as in the ones who just swore vengeance on "superheroes" in Thor: Love and Thunder - enlisted the Olympian Poseidon to sink Atlantis for attempting to access magic only allowed to the gods.

Either way, since they sank, Atlantis has become an on-again-off-again enemy of the so-called 'surface world,' with their most famous king, Namor the Sub-Mariner, himself acting as both ally and enemy to those who dwell on land over the years.

You may like
  • Robert Downey Jr. in Avengers: Infinity War Move over Endgame – Avengers: Infinity War might just be the most important MCU movie
  • Avengers: Secret Wars - three Spider-Men during the Marvel movie No Way Home Avengers: Secret Wars release date, cast, plot, and more news
  • Hawkeye, Captain America, and Black Widow in The Avengers (2012) 14 years later, it's still clear The Avengers should be a blueprint for any superhero crossover movie

In fact, he's even been an Avenger - including right now, when he's recently been forced to re-team with Black Panther years after their two nations went to war, and Atlantis nearly wiped Wakanda off the map.

And since that's what we're here to talk about…

Atlantis Attacks

Avengers vs. X-Men #8 panel

(Image credit: Marvel Comics)

Though it was hardly the first time that Namor and Atlantis had declared war on the surface world over the years, the war between Atlantis and Wakanda during the event story Avengers Vs. X-Men and its follow-up Infinity may have been the most devastating.

As it says in the title, Avengers Vs. X-Men (or AvX as it's often stylized) involves the Avengers and X-Men going to battle over the Phoenix Force, the cosmic entity of life, death, and rebirth that famously possessed Jean Grey during X-Men: The Dark Phoenix Saga. In AvX, five X-Men - including Namor, himself considered a mutant - each gain a portion of the Phoenix's power.

During the resulting conflict, the empowered X-Men try to remake the world in their image using the power of the Phoenix. 

The Avengers, not taking kindly to this idea, oppose them, and in one of their battles, Scarlet Witch gravely injures Namor. 

As Wanda takes refuge in Wakanda, Namor goes against the other members of the so-called 'Phoenix Five' and launches an all-out Atlantean assault on Wakanda, using the ocean itself to flood and all but level huge portions of the hidden nation.

The Avengers rally around Black Panther, and drive back Namor's forces - but only after great losses in Wakanda.

And though the battle resulted in Namor losing his Phoenix power - and the Avengers technically kinda won the conflict - that was not the end of the war between Wakanda and Atlantis.

Wakanda Strikes Back

New Avengers #7 panel

(Image credit: Marvel Comics)

In the later event story Infinity, Wakanda strikes back at Atlantis amid a conflict between the Avengers, the Illuminati, and most of the world's other heroes against Thanos and the Black Order as they invade Earth to kill Thanos' secret half-Eternal, half-Inhuman son, Thane.

But while the Illuminati - of which both Namor and Black Panther were then members - are attempting to work together to stave off Thanos, Shuri, who was then ruling monarch of Wakanda, declares an attack on Atlantis to take advantage of Namor's distraction.

Wakanda lays waste to Atlantis much the same way Atlantis previously devastated Wakanda - but Namor isn't willing to take Wakanda's retaliatory attack laying down.

So when Thanos comes knocking at Atlantis' door looking for the Infinity Stone which Namor is hiding, Namor lies and sends Thanos and the Black Order to Wakanda - initiating the comic book version of the Battle of Wakanda seen in the film Avengers: Infinity War.

In the course of Infinity and the surrounding conflict between Atlantis and Wakanda, both kingdoms are destroyed by Thanos' armies.

Interestingly enough, Infinity is the same event in which the Terrigen Mists, the substance that gives Inhumans their powers when they're exposed to it, are released into Earth's atmosphere, triggering the comic book version of Kamala Khan's transformation into Ms. Marvel.

And of course, the aftermath of Infinity, in which Multiversal Incursions began threatening the entire Marvel Universe led directly to … say it with us now … Secret Wars, which is of course getting its own movie adaptation as Avengers: Secret Wars to close out the MCU's upcoming Phase 6.

Avengers Vs. X-Men is one of the most impactful Marvel Comics events of all time.

TOPICS
Marvel Comics
CATEGORIES
Comics
George Marston
George Marston
Social Links Navigation
Entertainment Writer

I've been Newsarama's resident Marvel Comics expert and general comic book historian since 2011, and now I'm the Entertainment Writer at GamesRadar+. I've also been the on-site reporter at most major comic conventions such as Comic-Con International: San Diego, New York Comic Con, and C2E2. Outside of comic journalism, I am the artist of many weird pictures, and the guitarist of many heavy riffs. (They/Them)

Read more
Robert Downey Jr. in Avengers: Infinity War
Marvel Movies Move over Endgame – Avengers: Infinity War might just be the most important MCU movie
 
 
Avengers: Secret Wars - three Spider-Men during the Marvel movie No Way Home
Marvel Movies Avengers: Secret Wars release date, cast, plot, and more news
 
 
Hawkeye, Captain America, and Black Widow in The Avengers (2012)
Marvel Movies 14 years later, it's still clear The Avengers should be a blueprint for any superhero crossover movie
 
 
Tony Stark in Avengers: Endgame
Marvel Movies Avengers: Endgame may be the only Marvel movie you need to rewatch before Doomsday, and here's why
 
 
Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom on the Avengers: Doomsday poster
Marvel Movies Avengers: Doomsday release date, cast, plot, trailer, and more news
 
 
Nova
Marvel Movies Nova screenwriter says the upcoming Marvel movie will have to address Thanos' attack on Xandar before Infinity War
 
 
Latest in Marvel Movies
Chris Evans as Steve Rogers in Avengers: Doomsday TV spot
Marvel Movies New Avengers: Doomsday footage has Marvel fans speculating Loki has replaced Steve Rogers, and I'm convinced
 
 
still from Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings trailer
Marvel Movies Shang-Chi is Marvel's best post-Endgame gamble, so it's no surprise he's a big part of Avengers: Doomsday
 
 
Inde Navarrette as Nikki in Obsession
Marvel Movies Obsession star Inde Navarrette gives us a taste of her Rogue accent ahead of Marvel's new X-Men movie
 
 
Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom in Avengers: Doomsday
Marvel Movies Avengers: Doomsday Google Easter egg tells us which heroes are in Doctor Doom's sights
 
 
Inde Navarrette as Nikki in Obsession
Marvel Movies Inde Navarrette was "dropping hints" about playing Rogue in X-Men months ago, but no one caught it
 
 
Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards with the Fantastic Four and Thor in Avengers: Doomsday
Marvel Movies Jonathan Hickman has seen a "work in progress" cut of Avengers: Doomsday and calls recent changes "fascinating"
 
 
Latest in Features
007 Nightfire P2 (2002)
Games My PS2 is officially 26 years old, but my all-time favorites still hold up on it in 2026
 
 
Mass Effect 5
Mass Effect Mass Effect 5 would have been Mass Effect Universe, and one trailer has changed how I see the entire series
 
 
still from Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings trailer
Marvel Movies Shang-Chi is Marvel's best post-Endgame gamble, so it's no surprise he's a big part of Avengers: Doomsday
 
 
Dual Wielding in Cyberpunk 2077
Cyberpunk Cyberpunk 2077's new update just made it the anti-GTA 6
 
 
Naomi Ackie as Caitlyn Corr and Tom Rhys Harries as Matt Hagen in Clayface
DC Movies Clayface Easter eggs: 17 DC and Batman references you might have missed
 
 
Tom Rhys Harries as Clayface
DC Movies Is the DCU Batman introduced in Clayface?
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. "Humans need to be involved in the initial step of turning zero into one. That will never change"
    1
    On AI in game dev, Final Fantasy and Mana veterans say humans will always need to "turn zero into one," but robots "can improve efficiency"
  2. 2
    Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced is getting its "final major" update this week, and it includes a new "Nightmare" difficulty, New Game Plus, and more
  3. 3
    Mass Effect 5 was Journey composer's "biggest dream project," and he was in "serious discussions" with BioWare to handle the soundtrack – here's 20 minutes of music he composed for the RPG
  4. 4
    Microsoft is looking to cut over a quarter of the whole company in new voluntary buyout program with 60,000 employees reportedly eligible
  5. 5
    My PS2 is officially 26 years old, but my all-time favorite games still hold up on it

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • About us
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Terms and conditions
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...