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  • pl4y4h - November 19, 2013 6:52 a.m.

  • LoboMau - November 19, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    It's just a xbox advert. What's the problem? Now , regarding this thread, I think that the word 'troll' and all its variations are overused. Everything that one doesn't seem to enjoy gets labeled as trolling and it's getting out of hand. While I'm not saying that most of these examples don't fit in that category, I don't consider the torturing bit in GTA as such. It's there to make a point and it adds to the story that they (Rockstar) want to tell.
  • pl4y4h - November 19, 2013 11:53 a.m.

  • Goldjit - November 19, 2013 6:49 a.m.

    You know sometimes I wish you would talk about your list topics rather than your Top 7 in your podcast. They are at times, far more interesting or/and funny. OH! or do both! :D
  • Pruman - November 19, 2013 6:34 a.m.

    Vanquish may not straight up troll its players, but its plot, characters, and achievement titles troll contemporary real-life politicians and situations. The in-game president looks exactly like Hillary Clinton. Burns at one point says that she started the war with Russia as an "economic stimulus package" to get the country out of a recession, clearly trolling Obama's 2009 stimulus bill and, indirectly, Keynsian economists who argue that World War II ended the Great Depression (looking at you, Krugtron the Invincible). I think the achievements for finishing the game on medium and hard difficulty are called "End to Major Combat Operations" and "Mission Accomplished," which both troll Bush's speech on the deck of the aircraft carrier when he said that the Iraq war was over. I'd consider the original Bioshock a pretty clear case of player trolling. ***spoiler warning*** You thought you were the good video game guy, murdering and destroying everything in Rapture to bring down the evil tycoon and save the innocent worker and his family? Nope. You're a brainwashed puppet who does whatever he's told, you've been working for the REAL bad guy the entire time, and you just killed the only other person that could have possibly stopped him and thrown the city into even greater chaos. Nice going, a-hole! ***end spoiler***
  • chriszewski - November 19, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    I'd argue that the "economic stimulus package" was a reference to Bush's attempt to inject the government's money back into the economy by giving taxpayers some of their tax money back. About as dumb as starting a war... Wait, he did that too. Hmmm....
  • C.King - November 19, 2013 6:10 a.m.

    are indie games included? you guys should look into some adventure games by Angus Cheng
  • KnightDehumidifier - November 19, 2013 5:49 a.m.

    Dark Souls? Dark Souls. DARK. SOULS. DARK MOTHER'UCKING SOULS. It's the only game that everyone and everything is out to troll, including you. It's Internet: The Game.
  • GR_AndyHartup - November 19, 2013 11:53 p.m.

    Almost included Dark Souls, but figured it was a game that loves to challenge its players and their expectations, rather than troll them outright. It's a brilliant game - to call it trolling might be doing it a disservice.
  • laron-chunn - December 9, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    Nuff said lol
  • BladedFalcon - November 19, 2013 5:38 a.m.

    Wait wait wait.... So the reason Whimsyshire was created in Diablo III... Was because fans bitched about seeing rainbows appear in the game? Jeesh! they definitely deserved some trolling for that one >_> Pretty sweet list overall! It definitely accounts for the most notable cases of trolling I've been aware o so far. You could also say that DMC4 loved to troll the shit out of players, what with teasing the idea of playing as Dante, making you play instead with angsty, overly serious Nero, and when you DO play as Dante... it's to play the same levels you did with Nero now only backwards. But then, this situation is kinda hard to put in the list because first, it feels similar to what Kojima did in MGS2, and you guys already have a DmC game in the list :P
  • StrayGator - November 19, 2013 5:36 a.m.

    The Stanley Parable as a whole can be viewed as an excercise in trolling.
  • Swedish_Chef - November 19, 2013 5:32 a.m.

    I Wanna Be The Guy and Takeshi's Challenge.
  • GR_AndyHartup - November 19, 2013 11:51 p.m.

    Almost included Takeshi's Challenge. Apparently the menu screen says something like 'This game was made by a man who hates video games'. Excellent trolling.
  • StrayGator - November 19, 2013 5:12 a.m.

    I can't recall anything about Ezio inventing the latte. How did that roll?
  • Swedish_Chef - November 19, 2013 5:27 a.m.

    Yeah funnily enough he actually does, it's in a part where he goes to Leonardo's house who asks Ezio to try this new overseas thing called "coffee" Ezio takes a drink and comments that it's a little bitter saying perhaps he should add something to sweeten like sugar or milk.
  • GR_AndyHartup - November 19, 2013 11:50 p.m.

    Yeah, that's the scene. It's one of the little bits that made AC2 so great.
  • winner2 - November 19, 2013 4:56 a.m.

    I'm reallly glad I missed the GTA one, I would never invest the time for that bs

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