Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • View Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Saros review
  • Arc Raiders
  • The Boys S5
  • Best turn-based RPGs
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
  • Delta Force giveaway
Don't miss these
Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral
Action Games Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
Final Fantasy 14: Evercold
Final Fantasy Final Fantasy 14 Evercold aims to respect your "limited free time" with the death of daily roulettes
G'raha Tia looks distantly in a trailer for Final Fantasy 14 Stormblood
Final Fantasy As Final Fantasy 14 looks to the future, I hope Square Enix remembers the quest that got me excited for Dawntrail
A dragon from World of Warcraft looks at another player riding a dragon
World of Warcraft World of Warcraft "will continue to decline" unless the MMO gets a "reset," says former Blizzard boss
Arc Raiders screenshot of a helmet lying in sand
Third Person Shooters Tarkov chief is right: Arc Raiders is an extraction shooter for casual people, that's why I like it
Crimson Desert hero with eyes shut
Open World Games Crimson Desert is just more proof that waiting to play games is the best
Arc Raiders player holding a gun in red light
Third Person Shooters Marathon, Arc Raiders, and Last Flag devs discuss the ongoing evolution of multiplayer shooters
A screenshot of Gustave in Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, one of the best RPGs you can play in 2026
RPGs The 25 best RPGs worth playing in 2026
Best PC games: Screenshots of Baldur's Gate 3, Helldivers 2, Split Fiction and the Resident Evil 4 Remake
PC Gaming The 25 best PC games to play in 2026
A close-up of Lae'zel during act one of the RPG Baldur's Gate 3
RPGs 10 Best RPGs where Choices Really Matter to play in 2026
Crimson Desert
RPGs The Witcher 3 director says Crimson Desert isn't "story heavy," but it still gets "RPG things" right
A shot captured in Final Fantasy 14 of three short elven-like characters known as Lalafells standing together with two humans, and two Miqo'te characters who have cat-like ears
RPGs The 10 best MMORPGs and MMOs to play in 2026
Crimson Desert
RPGs Crimson Desert review: "A game that's far better as a sandbox than as a story"
Key art for World of Warcraft: Midnight.
World of Warcraft WoW's current storyline is "like a Saturday morning cartoon," former Blizzard quest designer says
Arc Raiders Wasp Hunter armor set with yellow leather
Third Person Shooters "Players shouldn't feel fully safe" in Arc Raiders even in friendly lobbies, lead dev says
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Games
  2. RPG

High Horse: MMORPGs sort of suck and really need to change

Features
By Hollander Cooper published 28 January 2012

Stop remaking EverQuest and start making new games

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

High Horse is a rotating opinion column in which GamesRadar editors and guest writers are invited to express their personal thoughts on games, the people who play them and the industry at large.

You walk into a hallway, and there are a few orcs or robots or whatever standing in the corner. They’re staring right in your direction. Not 10 feet behind you are the corpses of their fallen comrades, lying in a giant pile, the loot stripped from their bones. For some reason, the foes don’t approach you or your party. They completely ignore you until someone goes within 10 feet, and then they all run over at once and attack the nearest person. You attack back, hitting numbers that correspond with abilities that refresh over time – and once they do, you cast them again.

Above: SWTOR moves the genre forward in some ways, and holds it back in others

Article continues below
You may like
  • G'raha Tia looks distantly in a trailer for Final Fantasy 14 Stormblood As Final Fantasy 14 looks to the future, I hope Square Enix remembers the quest that got me excited for Dawntrail
  • Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
  • FrogLok stands on dock facing character menacingly EverQuest is the next MMO to get the "classic" treatment after WoW Classic and Old School RuneScape, but there's a twist

After the enemies are killed, you go into the next room and there’s a boss. You minimize the game and pull up a YouTube video showing off how to kill the boss. You tell everyone in your Vent channel to shut up because you’re looking it up. You could just try and figure out the battle yourself, but the developers want to make the bosses extra tricky, so they gave him unique mechanics that don’t make a lick of sense or have anything to do with the rest of the game. You need to stand on the blue blocks when he turns orange, kite him around the room while he spawns little versions of himself to fight, and hide behind a column when he screams “I HUNGER!” And then you kill him and he drops and item that’s 4 percent better than the one you have. You equip it. It looks a little different than your old one. Everyone is jealous. You do it again.

Massively-multiplayer online RPGs, everybody – let’s give them a round of applause!

The basic MMO formula hasn’t changed much since EverQuest. Hell, it hasn’t changed that much since multi-user dungeons (MUDs). You pick a class, choose a race, grab an item and beat rats or goblins or droids to death with it for 400 hours until you hit the level cap. And that’s when it really starts to suck. See, the developers don’t want their game to ever end, so at level cap, you’re usually given a bunch of extra-hard dungeons to fight in.

Above: Pandas aren't going to save the genre

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Those dungeons give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons that give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons that give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons that give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons that give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons that give you tokens that you can use to get better gear to fight in harder dungeons.

And then you do raids, which is that same crap with more than a dozen people. PvP and crafting both follow that same model, giving players a carrot on a stick instead of actual rewards.

The worst part is that it’s obvious why they do it: MMO communities are a mess, and they don’t know what they want. Whenever a developer thinks outside the box, the community complains that the game isn’t close enough to World of Warcraft. When they go by the book, everyone calls it a World of Warcraft clone.

You may like
  • G'raha Tia looks distantly in a trailer for Final Fantasy 14 Stormblood As Final Fantasy 14 looks to the future, I hope Square Enix remembers the quest that got me excited for Dawntrail
  • Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
  • FrogLok stands on dock facing character menacingly EverQuest is the next MMO to get the "classic" treatment after WoW Classic and Old School RuneScape, but there's a twist

Above: Guild Wars 2 has some unique ideas; hopefully they're different enough

That’s not to say things haven’t improved; elements have been refined, with Trion’s Rift being the finest example of a pure MMO to date. The Old Republic switches things up, too, giving the entire genre a coat of beautiful paint, but both of those games, at their core, are still mediocre action-RPGs gussied up in pretty outfits. Really, really, really pretty outfits.

The combat needs to change. Having 30 different stats needs to disappear. The idea of “agro ranges” needs to die. The endgame needs a complete overhaul. Even games that have done a good job at changing things up, like DC Universe Online, The Old Republic and Age of Conan, still eventually boil down to repeating the same actions in different scenarios.

Developers need to stop creating sequels and spin-offs to EverQuest, and start making their own game. They need to take a step away from the norm and create new experiences within the genre, and until they do, everyone is going to act as though every game in the genre is a sequel to the game before it, instead of an actual game in and of itself.

Above: Secret World's unique leveling could be what helps it stand out

MMOs need to evolve, not because I’m tired of killing rats or doing quests (to be honest, I actually like that trivial nonsense), but because the number of people willing to put up with that might have hit its cap. I’ve heard developers say that in order for another big MMO to succeed, WoW needs to fall. There are a finite number of gamers willing to put up with that tired model, and developers are just trading them by the thousand. That’s bad. That’s unhealthy. That will eventually kill the genre, unless someone makes some changes.

And I love the idea of playing with millions of people too much to see it die.

CATEGORIES
PC Gaming PlayStation Xbox Platforms
Hollander Cooper
Hollander Cooper
Social Links Navigation
Former Features Editor at GamesRadar+

Hollander Cooper was the Lead Features Editor of GamesRadar+ between 2011 and 2014. After that lengthy stint managing GR's editorial calendar he moved behind the curtain and into the video game industry itself, working as social media manager for EA and as a communications lead at Riot Games. Hollander is currently stationed at Apple as an organic social lead for the App Store and Apple Arcade.

Read more
G'raha Tia looks distantly in a trailer for Final Fantasy 14 Stormblood
Final Fantasy As Final Fantasy 14 looks to the future, I hope Square Enix remembers the quest that got me excited for Dawntrail
 
 
Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral
Action Games Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
 
 
FrogLok stands on dock facing character menacingly
MMO Games EverQuest is the next MMO to get the "classic" treatment after WoW Classic and Old School RuneScape, but there's a twist
 
 
The Elder Scrolls Online
The Elder Scrolls Final Fantasy 14 lost me with Dawntrail, but The Elder Scrolls Online promises to mend my broken heart
 
 
A shot captured in Final Fantasy 14 of three short elven-like characters known as Lalafells standing together with two humans, and two Miqo'te characters who have cat-like ears
RPGs The 10 best MMORPGs and MMOs to play in 2026
 
 
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 lead Gustave faces a gommage
RPGs "You can't build clever little games anymore" unless you're Expedition 33, RPG legend says
 
 
Latest in RPG
Fallout
Fallout Fallout co-creator hopes to "make one more game" before his second retirement from RPG development
 
 
Crimson Desert
RPGs The Witcher 3 director says Crimson Desert isn't "story heavy," but it still gets "RPG things" right
 
 
Monoco readies for battle in Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
RPGs Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 actor was "nervous" for Metacritic score after appearing in Gollum game
 
 
Blood of Dawnwalker screenshot showing Unreal Engine 5 open world
RPGs Five reasons why The Blood of Dawnwalker is becoming my most anticipated RPG of 2026
 
 
The Blood of Dawnwalker screenshot
RPGs The Blood of Dawnwalker release date has been set for September 2026
 
 
Warhammer Quest: Darkwater box on a wooden table
Board Games If you want to play Warhammer without needing to buy armies, scenery, and extra models, this board game is for you
 
 
Latest in Features
Blood of Dawnwalker screenshot showing Unreal Engine 5 open world
RPGs Five reasons why The Blood of Dawnwalker is becoming my most anticipated RPG of 2026
 
 
Royce Johnson as Brett Mahoney is Daredevil
Marvel TV Shows Who is Brett Mahoney in Daredevil: Born Again season 2?
 
 
Deborah Ann Woll as Karen Page in Daredevil: Born Again season 2
Marvel TV Shows Daredevil: Born Again season 2 episode 7 lets down two of its most interesting characters
 
 
The cast of Citadel season 2.
Streaming Services All the movies and shows streaming on Prime Video in May 2026
 
 
A side by side of the Steam Controller with the Razer Wolverine V3 Pro 8K
Gaming Controllers The Steam Controller doesn't appear to be a hit for competitive play, so here are the best alternatives
 
 
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14, Razer Blade 14, and Acer Predator Triton 14 AI gaming laptops lined up on a wooden desk
Laptops I put the best 14-inch gaming laptops head to head and Asus still came out on top, but there's just one caveat
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Royce Johnson as Brett Mahoney is Daredevil
    1
    Who is Brett Mahoney in Daredevil: Born Again season 2?
  2. 2
    Daredevil: Born Again season 2 episode 7 lets down two of its most interesting characters
  3. 3
    Fallout co-creator hopes to "make one more game" before his second retirement from RPG development
  4. 4
    Indie dev discovers nuclear fusion of Steam marketing, flies up wishlists thanks to anime girl
  5. 5
    Stranger Things: Tales From '85 showrunner says the upcoming series won't just be a "Monster of the Week" adventure

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...