Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • View Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Saros review
  • Arc Raiders
  • The Boys S5
  • Best turn-based RPGs
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
  • Delta Force giveaway
Don't miss these
Crimson Desert
RPGs The Witcher 3 director says Crimson Desert isn't "story heavy," but it still gets "RPG things" right
Fallout New Vegas
Fallout Bethesda showed the Fallout: New Vegas team a "powerpoint about all the things Obsidian did wrong," dev says
A group of soldiers at a camping site looking at Henry during the RPG Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
RPGs The 10 best first-person RPGs to play in 2026
Baldur's Gate 3 Wyll
Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 lead Swen Vincke "is an unstoppable machine" when it comes to game quality, says Fallout: New Vegas dev
Baldur's Gate 3 the vampire Astarion
Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 proved things that big companies "chasing the money need to learn from," actor says
A close-up of Lae'zel during act one of the RPG Baldur's Gate 3
RPGs 10 Best RPGs where Choices Really Matter to play in 2026
Garrus Vakarian in Mass Effect 2
RPGs Here are my top 10 best single-player RPGs as a life-long fan whose spent thousands of hours with the genre
A worm eats another Slay the Spire 2 character in a sandy desert
Roguelike Games Valve veteran says Slay the Spire 2 "may not be perfectly balanced yet," but it will be eventually
A close up of Ciri holding her arm up while she looks at the sky in the RPG The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt.
RPGs 10 Best Xbox RPGs to play in 2026
Garrus and Commander Shepard in Mass Effect Legendary Edition
RPGs I've ranked the best RPGs with romance options, from Fire Emblem to Mass Effect
Stick figures close their eyes and embrace
RPGs Facing Chinese censorship, RPG shows users its most depraved content through stick figure drawings
In Final Fantasy 10, protagonist Tidus stands with party members Auron, Kimahri Ronso, Yuna, Wakka, Lulu, and Rikku
RPGs The 10 best story-driven RPGs to play in 2026
Fighting a dragon with a sword and shield in Skyrim
RPGs Skyrim inspired Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but Warhorse co-founder once listed "100 reasons that he hates" the RPG
Kliff loiters on a street corner in Crimson Desert as guards in green march past, led by a bulky mechanical suit of armor that's curiously sci-fi-inspired against the medieval fantasy style elsewhere
Open World Games Palworld lead completes Crimson Desert, says only The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind has a comparable "sense of wonder"
Divinity Original Sin 2 artwork shows origin characters Sebille, Fane, Beast, Lohse, Ifan Ben-Mezd, and the Red Prince
RPGs The 10 best CRPGs to lose yourself in
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Games
  2. RPGs
  3. Cyberpunk
  4. Cyberpunk 2077

Fallout New Vegas designer and noted RPG romance cynic Josh Sawyer was sold on Cyberpunk 2077's love stories: "If I were gonna base romances on anything, I'd probably do something like that"

News
By Jordan Gerblick published 17 June 2025

Josh Sawyer doesn't hate romance in games, he just doesn't like when it's party based

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Cyberpunk 2077
(Image credit: CD Projekt Red)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
0
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

Cyberpunk 2077's romance system just a massive endorsement from none other than Obsidian mainstay Josh Sawyer, who designed beloved RPGs including Pillars of Eternity, Fallout: New Vegas, and Pentiment.

When I say "massive endorsement," I really just mean Sawyer told PC Gamer that he really enjoyed the way CD Projekt Red implemented romance into Cyberpunk 2077, specifically with regards to its pacing, which is something he really does not say about games very often.

As PC Gamer notes, Sawyer's nuanced thoughts on RPG romances publicly dates back to 2006, when he said on an Obsidian forum that he doesn't "hate love in game stories" but does hate "reducing love to shallow, masturbatory fantasy indulgence." He's also previously said he feels out of step with what people expect from romances in modern games.

Article continues below
You may like
  • Exodus Mass Effect veteran says new RPG Exodus won't be a game where "you can just romance anyone because you're the hero"
  • Fallout New Vegas "You are wrong" and Fallout: New Vegas was absolutely ripped apart at launch, says Obsidian's Josh Sawyer
  • Fallout New Vegas RPG legend Josh Sawyer figured his "dream" of making a Fallout game was dead – until New Vegas came along

Cyberpunk 2077, though, it got romancing right in Sawyer's view. That's because it paces its four available romance options out so that the respective love stories happen separately from each other and thus feel more natural and organic.

Sawyer said he finds the typical RPG romance structure of having everyone stand around in a camp together while the player character engages with them at will, kind of awkward. "There are six of us together, and we're engaging in these romantic talks right next to everyone, and it feels kind of odd."

What Sawyer likes about Cyberpunk's romance is that, in his words, "it's not in a party context." It also helps that its big budget cinematic and overall presentation are great for immersion, and Sawyer also prefers the first-person perspective that it offers instead of third-person, but the other Main Thing is Cyberpunk's pacing, which locks a lot of romance progression behind progress points in the critical path.

"You do something with Judy, let's say, and then, you wrap it up, you have a convo, and then she's like, 'I gotta go do some things, bye,'" said Sawyer. "She is gone and you're not going to hear from her until time has elapsed, and probably until you've progressed a critical path.

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

"There's a built-in pacing, so the development of the human component of that relationship is developed over content that is specifically made for the two of you, like it's content for you and Judy alone. River doesn't come into it at all."

So there you have it. Sawyer is no "romance-hating scrooge" as he was dubbed in 2006; he just likes his romance to be believable and organic, which apparently is a tricky enough feat to accomplish that even Baldur's Gate 3 fell short by Sawyer's standards.

Avowed isn't Pillars of Eternity 3, but if the third RPG ever happens director Josh Sawyer reckons it should move to a proper 3D environment "more like Baldur’s Gate 3"

TOPICS
CD Projekt Red
CATEGORIES
PS5 Xbox Series X PC Gaming Nintendo Switch 2 Platforms PlayStation Xbox Nintendo
Jordan Gerblick
Jordan Gerblick
Social Links Navigation
Staff Writer

After earning an English degree from ASU, I worked as a corporate copy editor while freelancing for places like SFX Magazine, Screen Rant, Game Revolution, and MMORPG on the side. I got my big break here in 2019 with a freelance news gig, and I was hired on as GamesRadar's west coast Staff Writer in 2021. That means I'm responsible for managing the site's western regional executive branch, AKA my home office, and writing about whatever horror game I'm too afraid to finish.

You must confirm your public display name before commenting

Please logout and then login again, you will then be prompted to enter your display name.

Read more
Exodus
RPGs Mass Effect veteran says new RPG Exodus won't be a game where "you can just romance anyone because you're the hero"
 
 
Fallout New Vegas
Fallout "You are wrong" and Fallout: New Vegas was absolutely ripped apart at launch, says Obsidian's Josh Sawyer
 
 
Fallout New Vegas
Fallout RPG legend Josh Sawyer figured his "dream" of making a Fallout game was dead – until New Vegas came along
 
 
Garrus and Commander Shepard in Mass Effect Legendary Edition
RPGs I've ranked the best RPGs with romance options, from Fire Emblem to Mass Effect
 
 
Cyberpunk 2077
RPGs Cyberpunk 2077 is a better role-playing game than The Witcher 3
 
 
Crimson Desert
RPGs The Witcher 3 director says Crimson Desert isn't "story heavy," but it still gets "RPG things" right
 
 
Latest in Cyberpunk
Misty behind her counter in Cyberpunk 2077, the NPC who tells you about tarot cards.
Cyberpunk Cyberpunk 2077's best shopkeeper was originally a side character devs had no idea what to do with
 
 
Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Idris Elba
Cyberpunk I bounced off of Cyberpunk 2077 for 2 months when I first played it, and that makes it perfect for Xbox Game Pass
 
 
Idris Elba in Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom City
Cyberpunk Canceled Cyberpunk 2077 DLC might have been better than Phantom Liberty, Cyberpunk 2 creative director says
 
 
The Witcher 4
RPGs The Witcher 4 developer CD Projekt Red scoops up more industry talent as a Expedition 33 cinematics dev joins the team
 
 
Cyberpunk 2077
Cyberpunk Cyberpunk 2 lead says first-person POV "was better" for Cyberpunk 2077, as third-person is "for more defined characters" like The Witcher 3's Geralt and God of War's Kratos
 
 
A character from Cyberpunk 2077's upcoming Phantom Liberty expansions stands in front of a field of wreckage
Cyberpunk Don't expect Cyberpunk 2 to be third-person or have flashy cutscenes as lead dev values "our uninterrupted immersion"
 
 
Latest in News
Castlevania: Belmont's Curse
Action Games Castlevania: Belmont's Curse exists because Konami loved Evil Empire's Dead Cells crossover pitch
 
 
Evangeline Lilly in Ant-Man and the Wasp
Marvel Movies MCU actor Evangeline Lilly slams Disney for "turning their back" on artists after mass Marvel layoffs: "Shame on you"
 
 
GTA 6
Grand Theft Auto GTA 6 isn't "even at risk" of having product placement "because all the brands are made up"
 
 
Tilly Norwood
Drama Movies New Oscars rules ban Generative AI from ever being eligible for an Academy Award
 
 
Neverness to Everness character with red eyes glaring
Open World Games Neverness to Everness players find their answer to Genshin Impact's Paimon
 
 
A phoenix swoops over a dying faun on a battlefield, from the Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era opening cinematic movie
Strategy Games Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era "broke even on development costs in just one day"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Castlevania: Belmont's Curse
    1
    Castlevania: Belmont's Curse exists because Konami loved Evil Empire's Dead Cells crossover pitch
  2. 2
    MCU actor Evangeline Lilly slams Disney for "turning their back" on artists after mass Marvel layoffs: "Shame on you"
  3. 3
    GTA 6 isn't "even at risk" of having product placement "because all the brands are made up"
  4. 4
    New Oscars rules ban Generative AI from ever being eligible for an Academy Award
  5. 5
    Neverness to Everness players find their answer to Genshin Impact's Paimon

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...