Skip to main content
  • TotalFilm
  • Edge
  • Newsarama
  • Retrogamer
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • More
    • PS5
    • Xbox Series X
    • Nintendo Switch
    • Nintendo Switch 2
    • PC
    • Platforms
    • Tabletop Gaming
    • Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Newsletters
    • About us
    • Features
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
Don't miss these
Cillian Murphy as Tommy Shelby in Peaky Blinders: The Immortal Man
Crime Movies Cillian Murphy says Netflix's Peaky Blinders movie is the "natural conclusion" for Tommy Shelby
Invincible season 4
Superhero Shows Invincible season 4 release date, story, new cast, and more
Reacher season 2
Action Shows Reacher season 4 release date speculation, cast, plot, and everything we know so far about the Prime Video show's return
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 finale review: “Shows off both the best and the worst of Hawkins”
Jamie Campbell Bower as Vecna in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5, Volume 2 review: “All set up for a finale that has so much to deliver”
Oscar Isaac and Carey Mulligan in Beef season 2
Drama Shows Season 2 of hit Netflix show with 98% Rotten Tomatoes score unveils its White Lotus-esque first trailer
Cyberpunk Edgerunners
Anime Shows Cyberpunk: Edgerunners season 2: Everything we know about CD Projekt Red's anime
Daredevil: Born Again
Marvel TV Shows Daredevil: Born Again showrunner has "mixed feelings" about season 2's timely political focus
The Mandalorian
Star Wars TV Shows The Mandalorian season 4 release date speculation, potential cast, trailer, plot, and movie details
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 reviews, cast, plot, and everything else you need to know about the final season of the Netflix show
Omni-Man putting his hand on Invincible's shoulder in Invincible season 4 trailer
Superhero Shows Invincible season 4 trailer teams up Mark Grayson and Omni-Man to fight an intergalactic war
An unmasked Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) sitting across from Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) in Daredevil: Born Again season 2
Marvel TV Shows Daredevil: Born Again will "let rip" in season 2 in a way they "might not have been able to" in the first season
Omni-Man putting his hand on Invincible's shoulder in Invincible season 4 trailer
Superhero Shows Desperate for more Viltrumites in Invincible? Creator Robert Kirkman says you'll be "very happy" with season 4
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven in Stranger Things season 5 volume 2
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things creators admit they started filming season 5 without a finished script for the finale
Winona Ryder as Joyce and Noah Schnapp as Will in Stranger Things season 5
Sci-Fi Shows Stranger Things season 5 finale explained: who dies, does it set up a spin-off and what happens to Eleven?
  1. Entertainment
  2. TV
  3. Comedy Shows

Cobra Kai creators talk Johnny and Daniel's journey in season 4

News
By Molly Edwards published 7 January 2022

Exclusive: "There's a natural commonality and conflict between the two of them"

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Cobra Kai season 4
(Image credit: Netflix)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Get the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter

Cobra Kai season 4 brought plenty of twists, turns, and shocking moments with it – but one of the biggest changes was the team up between Johnny Lawrence (William Zabka) and Daniel LaRusso (Ralph Macchio).

The duo have been at odds ever since the original Karate Kid movie, but season 4 sees them go from enemies to frenemies. While the joint-dojo effort doesn't last for long, with Daniel and Johnny going their separate ways partway through the season, they eventually reunite at the All Valley Tournament.

We sat down with Cobra Kai co-creators Jon Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg to break down all of season 4's surprises, and discussed Johnny and Daniel's tumultuous journey.

You may like
  • An unmasked Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) sitting across from Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) in Daredevil: Born Again season 2 Daredevil: Born Again will "let rip" in season 2 in a way they "might not have been able to" in the first season
  • Fallout season 2 Fallout stars Kyle MacLachlan and Annabel O'Hagan talk "peeling back the layers" in season 2's epic finale:
  • Jonathan and Nancy in Stranger Things season 5 The Stranger Things creators clear up what just happened with Nancy and Jonathan

"There's a natural commonality and conflict between the two of them that we can play with at all times," Schlossberg says. "They are more mature, and where they are in the course of our show, at the start of season 4 and definitely at the end of season 4, is at a place that's more advanced and mature than where they were at the end of Karate Kid. And yet, the events of The Karate Kid are always going to be there, those memories are always going to be there, things can always be triggered. And they're also, unlike these kids who are learning both sides – their whole lives were taught one way. So even though they can appreciate the other side, it's much more difficult for them to merge or take on the other side."

The difference between Daniel and Johnny's styles is explored throughout the season – but it isn't the only source of conflict between them both. 

"We wanted to really get to the debate over philosophies," Schlossberg says. "We love talking about being aggressive versus being passive. We think that there is a yin and yang to life, and there is an argument to be made for both… You get this natural odd couple banter with them that's great and we want to take advantage of that. At the same time, we want to grow the relationship, and it not feel repetitive. 

"We did that this season, the conflicts that go on between them, we're always trying to make it feel like we haven't seen yet," he continues. "So in season 4, it wasn't like, 'Okay, they don't like each other's styles and they get into an argument.' It was, 'Well, they start teaching each other's students and Johnny sees that Daniel's forming a bond with Miguel, and Daniel sees his daughter is starting to act more like Johnny.' And that triggers something in them that we haven't really seen before that leads to conflict, so it feels fresh. And yet, it's giving the audience what I think we want in this dynamic, which is clash, come together, clash, come together. The hope is that we can keep that entertainment value, but while not feeling repetitive, and advancing toward something."

Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Cobra Kai season 4 is streaming on Netflix now. If you're all caught up, check out our guide to the best Netflix shows to fill out your watchlist.

CATEGORIES
Netflix Streaming Services
Molly Edwards
Molly Edwards
Social Links Navigation
Senior Entertainment Writer

I'm a Senior Entertainment Writer here at GamesRadar+, covering all things film and TV for the site's Total Film section. I previously worked on the Disney magazines team at Immediate Media, and also wrote on the CBeebies, MEGA!, and Star Wars Galaxy titles after graduating with a BA in English.

Read more
An unmasked Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) sitting across from Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) in Daredevil: Born Again season 2
Daredevil: Born Again will "let rip" in season 2 in a way they "might not have been able to" in the first season
 
 
Fallout season 2
Fallout stars Kyle MacLachlan and Annabel O'Hagan talk "peeling back the layers" in season 2's epic finale:
 
 
Jonathan and Nancy in Stranger Things season 5
The Stranger Things creators clear up what just happened with Nancy and Jonathan
 
 
It: Welcome to Derry
It: Welcome to Derry showrunner breaks down episode 8 of the highly rated Stephen King spin-off
 
 
Diego Luna as Cassian Andor in Andor season 2
New Star Wars boss Dave Filoni doesn't hate Andor, says creator Tony Gilroy: "There's no Andor without the Mandalorian"
 
 
Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas, Sadie Sink as Max, Noah Schnapp as Will, and Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin in Stranger Things season 5
In the TikTok theory era, Conformity Gate is no surprise – but it's distracting from a fitting Stranger Things finale
 
 
Latest in Comedy Shows
Oscar Isaac and Carey Mulligan in Beef season 2
Season 2 of hit Netflix show with 98% Rotten Tomatoes score unveils its White Lotus-esque first trailer
 
 
Jay McCarrol and Matt Johnson
Nirvanna the Band the Show stars reveal the iconic Wii Shop song only took 5 hours to write, perform, and edit
 
 
Seth MacFarlane in The Orville
Seth MacFarlane says an entire new season of The Orville has been written, but Ted could be dead
 
 
Kaia Gerber as Mitzi, reclining on a sofa, in Palm Royale season 2.
Apple TV cancels Emmy-nominated '60s housewife comedy drama starring Kristen Wiig after 2 seasons
 
 
Community
Community movie got "very close" to filming, but one star's schedule caused a delay
 
 
Charlie Dompler and Pim Pimling in Smiling Friends
Smiling Friends surprisingly ends after three seasons, with its creators citing burnout: "This is not a bit"
 
 
Latest in News
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Gustave winces
"The first track spoils the whole game": Clair Obscur Expedition 33 dev confirms it was filling your ears with spoilers
 
 
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 lead Gustave faces a gommage
Clair Obscur Expedition 33 took inspiration from a surprising anime - Soul Eater creator's Fire Force
 
 
A close-up of Grace talking with someone through glass in Resident Evil Requiem
Resident Evil Requiem leads let actors re-do "technically" perfect scenes if it made them happy, says Grace actor
 
 
Kratos approaches Aphrodite's bedchamber in God of War 3
"The God of War sex mini-games were designed by women," which is why Aphrodite's bed looks "like a labia"
 
 
Alan Ritchson in Reacher season 3
Reacher star Alan Ritchson says season 4 is coming this year: "It's by far the best season we've had yet"
 
 
Spider-Noir aiming his webshooter
Spider-Noir is the "same character, different version": "It's not a continuation of Into The Spider-Verse"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Mario riding Yoshi through space with Luigi and Peach flying along beside him
    1
    The Super Mario Galaxy Movie reveals Donald Glover as the voice of Yoshi and more new casting in a star-spanning trailer that sends the entire Mushroom Kingdom to another planet
  2. 2
    Reacher star Alan Ritchson says season 4 is coming this year: "It's by far the best season we've had yet"
  3. 3
    Clair Obscur Expedition 33 took inspiration from a surprising anime - Soul Eater creator's Fire Force: "Because it was a JRPG, we tried to find a mix"
  4. 4
    "The God of War sex mini-games were designed by women," former Sony Santa Monica writer says, which is why Aphrodite's bed looks "like a labia"
  5. 5
    Resident Evil Requiem leads let actors re-do "technically" perfect scenes if it made them happy, says Grace actor: "'If you didn't feel it, we need to do it again'"

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us
  • Accessibility Statement

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...