Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Total Film
  • home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • View Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Total Film
Trending
  • Best Netflix Movies
  • Movie Release Dates
  • Best movies on Disney Plus
  • Best Netflix Shows
Don't miss these
Ahsoka
Star Wars TV Shows Ahsoka season 2 is dealing with a "higher level" of Star Wars than The Mandalorian and Grogu
Baby Yoda and some Anzellans in The Mandalorian and Grogu trailer
Star Wars Movies The Mandalorian season 4 scripts set up Ahsoka season 2, but Jon Favreau had to "start from scratch" for the movie
Jeremy Allen White as Rotta the Hutt, holding two axes, in The Mandalorian and Grogu
Star Wars Movies Star Wars is "about families," so The Mandalorian and Grogu will explore Rotta being Jabba the Hutt's son
Maul and Inquisitor Marrok fighting in Maul – Shadow Lord
Star Wars TV Shows Who is Inquisitor Marrok calling in Maul – Shadow Lord episode 6? All the Star Wars characters he could be contacting
Rey in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars Movies Every new Star Wars movie and TV show currently in the works
Rey in The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars Movies Disney accused of "sequel erasure" after new Star Wars merchandise only covers the original trilogy and prequels
An alien food vendor voiced by Martin Scorsese in The Mandalorian & Grogu trailer.
Star Wars Movies Martin Scorsese's unexpected cameo in The Mandalorian and Grogu explained
Grogu being painfully adorable in The Mandalorian and Grogu
Star Wars Movies After months of confusing marketing, the final Mandalorian and Grogu trailer still doesn't reveal what the Star Wars movie is about
Poe Dameron in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars Movies One of the most infamous Star Wars lines was added in reshoots, Oscar Isaac says
Sam Witwer as Darth Maul in Star Wars: Maul – Shadow Lord
Star Wars TV Shows What to watch before Maul – Shadow Lord: 15 essential Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels episodes
Darth Maul and Inquisitor Marrok in a lightsaber battle in Maul – Shadow Lord
Star Wars TV Shows Who is Inquisitor Marrok? What we know about the Star Wars character introduced in Ahsoka, explained
How to watch the Star Wars movies in order
Star Wars Movies How to watch the Star Wars movies in order (release and chronological)
Lando helmet replica from Star Wars, beside a Stormtrooper suit
Toys & Collectibles I went hands-on with the worst disguise in all of Star Wars
Grogu uses the Force in The Mandalorian and Grogu
Star Wars Movies New Star Wars book hints at a time skip between The Mandalorian season 3 and The Mandalorian and Grogu
A hand holds a Star Wars lightsaber hilt
Toys & Collectibles I went hands on with a new Star Wars lightsaber replica unlike any other I've seen
  1. Entertainment
  2. Movies
  3. Sci-Fi Movies
  4. Star Wars Movies
  5. Star Wars

Star Wars novel trolls Obi-Wan’s reason for lying to Luke about his father

News
By Ben Pearson published 22 February 2017

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter

A new Star Wars novel provides a religious basis for why Obi-Wan Kenobi lied to Luke Skywalker about Darth Vader’s true identity. Chuck Wendig’s new book Aftermath: Empire’s End - which is approved by Lucasfilm’s story group and therefore considered official Star Wars canon - sheds a little light on Obi-Wan’s white lie, but first, let me get you up to speed with the relevant info.

Wendig’s Empire’s End reveals a selection from the Journal of the Whills, a book within the Star Wars universe that explains the light and dark sides of the Force. The Whills have a complicated history, but they were originally intended to be immortal beings who were narrating the entire story of the Star Wars saga. George Lucas ended up scrapping that idea and the Whills morphed into the Force itself. But the name still popped up around the edges of the stories throughout the years. The Whills are referenced in a few deleted scenes from the prequel trilogy. And remember Donnie Yen’s blind monk Chirrut Imwe from Rogue One? He was part of a religious order called the Guardians of the Whills.

After Luke makes the horrific discovery in The Empire Strikes Back that Vader is his father, he confronts Obi-Wan’s Force ghost in Return of the Jedi about why Obi-Wan lied to him. Obi-Wan’s response is a masterclass in bullshit: he explains that Anakin Skywalker was seduced by the dark side, and when Anakin became Vader, Anakin was destroyed. So technically, Obi-Wan says, what he told Luke at the time was true… “from a certain point of view.” For those who saw Empire in the theater for the first time back in 1980, this probably seemed like a pretty blatant retcon.

Article continues below
You may like
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi as a force ghost talking to Yoda Star Wars fans are debating whether Obi-Wan Kenobi forgot about Leia being Luke's sister in The Empire Strikes Back
  • Hayden Christensen in Revenge of  the Sith Star Wars fans are debating an iconic Revenge of the Sith scene that's now one of the saga's biggest 'what if' moments
  • Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford in Star Wars: A New Hope Star Wars fans are discussing why two major characters barely interacted, but I think it makes total sense

Keeping that in mind, here’s the passage from the Journal of the Whills found in Empire’s End (via io9).

"The truth in our soul
Is that nothing is true.
The question of life
Is what then do we do?
The burden is ours
To penance, we hew.
The Force binds us all
From a certain point of view."

So it turns out Obi-Wan was just quoting from his religion’s scripture when he lied to Luke. I have to imagine Wendig was pretty pleased with himself for coming up with that, because he must have known that hardcore fans would be nodding and saying, “I see what you did there.” Retconning a retcon… that’s some expert-level trolling, sir.

Images: Lucasfilm

Sign up for the Total Film Newsletter

Bringing all the latest movie news, features, and reviews to your inbox

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Update: An earlier version of this article was unclear about the film in which Luke confronts Obi-Wan. It has been updated for clarity.

CATEGORIES
Disney Plus Streaming Services
Ben Pearson
Ben Pearson
Social Links Navigation
Ben is an entertainment journalist who has written about movies online for nearly a decade. He loves the Fast & Furious franchise, prefers Indiana Jones to Star Wars, and will defend the ending of Lost until his dying day. He shook Bill Murray's hand once (so he's got that going for him, which is nice). Ben lives in Los Angeles with his wife.
Read more
Obi-Wan Kenobi as a force ghost talking to Yoda
Star Wars Movies Star Wars fans are debating whether Obi-Wan Kenobi forgot about Leia being Luke's sister in The Empire Strikes Back
 
 
Hayden Christensen in Revenge of  the Sith
Star Wars Movies Star Wars fans are debating an iconic Revenge of the Sith scene that's now one of the saga's biggest 'what if' moments
 
 
Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford in Star Wars: A New Hope
Star Wars Movies Star Wars fans are discussing why two major characters barely interacted, but I think it makes total sense
 
 
Star Wars Movies After 4 years of no Luke Skywalker, Star Wars fans are plotting ways in which he can return to the franchise
 
 
C-3PO, Leia, Han, and Chewbacca in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars Movies 22 years later, Star Wars fans are reassessing one 2004 Special Edition Return of the Jedi change
 
 
Yoda in Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars TV Shows Yoda would have covered up Jedi deaths in The Acolyte, and its showrunner has the Clone Wars receipts to prove it
 
 
Latest in Star Wars Movies
Baby Yoda and some Anzellans in The Mandalorian and Grogu trailer
Star Wars Movies Baby Yoda gets eaten in new Mandalorian and Grogu TV spot
 
 
An alien food vendor voiced by Martin Scorsese in The Mandalorian & Grogu trailer.
Star Wars Movies Jon Favreau says Martin Scorsese did a "lot of improv" on Star Wars movie The Mandalorian and Grogu: "It's a highlight"
 
 
Din Djarin and Baby Yoda sitting together in the Super Bowl TV spot for The Mandalorian and Grogu
Star Wars Movies First clip from The Mandalorian and Grogu released, and it shows Grogu being a menace
 
 
Poe Dameron in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars Movies One of the most infamous Star Wars lines was added in reshoots, Oscar Isaac says
 
 
Lando helmet replica from Star Wars, beside a Stormtrooper suit
Toys & Collectibles I went hands-on with the worst disguise in all of Star Wars
 
 
Rey in The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars Movies Disney accused of "sequel erasure" after new Star Wars merchandise only covers the original trilogy and prequels
 
 
Latest in News
Halo: Campaign Evolved screenshot showing Master Chief hero shot in Unreal Engine 5
Games Microsoft will reportedly pay yet more employees to quit voluntarily in historic first
 
 
Xbox
Xbox Xbox will "reevaluate" its approach to exclusive games and AI, new CEO and CCO say
 
 
Alice stands next to the Cheshire cat wearing a bloodstained apron
Third Person Shooters Quake 2 dev felt "breathless" when he saw how Valve was using id Software's engine
 
 
Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced key art showing famous pirate Blackbeard
Assassin's Creed Ubisoft taps Skull & Bones studio to lead Assassin's Creed: Black Flag Resynced development
 
 
Two characters in S&box
Games Garry's Mod follow-up S&box will launch on Steam with "sustainable" payout for content creators
 
 
Xbox Gamescom 2023 logo featuring a stylized city skyline in green
Xbox Microsoft goes back to Xbox and ditches Microsoft Gaming as leaders admit "players are frustrated"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Halo: Campaign Evolved screenshot showing Master Chief hero shot in Unreal Engine 5
    1
    Microsoft will reportedly pay yet more employees to quit voluntarily in historic first
  2. 2
    Xbox will "reevaluate" its approach to exclusive games and AI, new CEO and CCO say
  3. 3
    Quake 2 dev felt "breathless" when he saw how Valve was using id Software's engine
  4. 4
    Ubisoft taps Skull & Bones studio to lead Assassin's Creed: Black Flag Resynced development
  5. 5
    Garry's Mod follow-up S&box will launch on Steam with "sustainable" payout for content creators

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...