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Microsoft/Sony: No new consoles in 2012

Both Sony and Microsoft have told French publication Le Point (via CVG) that consumers shouldn't expect to get their hands on new consoles before 2013. Microsoft France's Cedric Delmas told the magazine he was “certain... that there will be nothing new in 2012.” Similarly, Philippe Cardone, French PlayStation CEO, points out that his company was the last to join the current generation (paradoxically and infamously beginning said generation), and as such “will probably be the last to announce something” new.

Above: Hope and pray that the Internet has enough crack to turn out another 6-12 months' worth of "concept images" for the new machines

Both speakers display a reluctance to be measured on the same timeline as ostensible rival Nintendo. “We are not here to deal with Nintendo and they are not there to fight against other manufacturers,” argues Delmas, saying the company has “placed itself in a different cycle” with the Wii and DS lines. “The Wii is pressed for time because it is in decline,” suggests Cardone, a pressure that doesn't apply to his company. Delmas is more diplomatic: “they advance at their own pace, successfully as we have seen with the Wii, and now it is their turn to present their innovation.”

Epic's Tim Sweeney, speaking to Venture Beat, applauded Sony and Microsoft's decision to hold off on a premature upgrade. While it's “harder to generate the same excitement from the same hardware” after a certain point, Sweeney points out, with a new machine “you reset the installed base to zero and it’s a lot harder to sell a lot of games again.” Sweeney, whose company was influential in the hardware design of the Xbox 360, says an upgrade is only due “when you can make a dramatic leap in quality, not just 2X or 3X. It has to be huge and fundamentally new.”

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21 comments

  • Penguin_Glyph - January 31, 2012 8:12 p.m.

    Geez, all these people are so narrow minded. I don't like it when someone says that the newest game out is "the best game ever". But I also don't like it when people say all the good games were on the old consoles. To the point, I prefer the console format, I have both an Xbox 360 and a PS3, and I do favor my PS3 for larger game variety and a controller setup I'm familiar to, but favor my xbox for a superior online experience (i.e. Final Fantasy on the PS3, CoD on my Xbox.) I just don't see why there's such a big push for next gen systems. More power is all that we can really do at this point. Anything smaller then that can be done with online updates and new software or hardware in the case of PS Move and Kinect. Loading screens have been a reality for as long as I can remember, and although sometimes annoying (I'm looking at you Fallout) it isn't a huge issue to me. I'm not saying we shouldn't make a next gen, I'm saying we are capable of much better, this is true, but what good is a super system that costs a fortune to buy and make and it doesn't have any software that can use it to it's full potential? People already complain enough that games take too long to release. Reality check, they'll take even longer to release if the formats are more complex. All I'm saying is be patient, they'll come out eventually, wait a few months and you'll all be able to scream like school girls at the next E3 when Sony/Microsoft introduce their next gen systems.
  • sleepyMexican45 - January 31, 2012 10:35 a.m.

    The only thing I want from a new console, is shorter loading and a multi-disk changer (imagine how cool that'd be!)
  • CaptCOMMANDO - January 31, 2012 8:53 a.m.

    Oh my god Shut up
  • Octaviux - January 31, 2012 8:11 a.m.

    I really hope the next consoles are globe type devices instead of boring rectangles. I imagine cleaning it like Gandalf covering up seeing stone in Lord of the Rings, haha
  • RedOutlive10 - January 31, 2012 5:45 a.m.

    Thanks for holding back gaming for one more year.
  • winner2 - January 31, 2012 3:40 a.m.

    When it comes down to it, all one has to do is ask themselves if they still have fun playing good games on their current hardware. If the answer is yes (and if it's no, I'm sorry and wish you the best) then they can just keep on having fun and continue to look forward to the next opportunity to have more of it.
  • purple_omlet - January 31, 2012 1:43 a.m.

    In this commenting section: Retards. Retards Everywhere.
  • cokelogic - January 30, 2012 9:28 p.m.

    Oh, please let Xbox 720 look like GLADOS. (not a chance)
  • Moondoggie1157 - January 30, 2012 6:58 p.m.

    Holy shit... Every time ANY news regarding new consoles, tech comparisons (between consoles), or cross platform games get released, the PC fanboys stroll right in. It's not even a fun time to troll them anymore, it's really just a chance to roll the eyes and say "here we go again". After this I will not bother debating PC elitists, I just want to say that you are not gamers, you are assholes in your own demographic who make fun of the majority of gamers (and thus subtracting you from the demographic) Argue it all you want, but anyone who doesn't use a PC for gaming is thinking the same thing... ANYWHO! I am really glad no new consoles are being announced, though I am not really surprised, well in Sony's case anyways. Let me enjoy this generation for a few more years, there are dozens of games I still want to enjoy. Am I the only one who thinks the XBox concept art looks like an Okama Gamesphere? Just throwing it out there...
  • TheAsterite - January 30, 2012 9:59 p.m.

    It's not that as a PC and PS3 gamer I want better graphics, I just want more RAM in these consoles. Seriously, the 360 has 512 MB of ram, while the PS3 has an architecture that has 256 of main and 256 of video memory. That is pretty much almost nothing. My phone has 512 MB of ram. I don't think people who aren't programmers actually realize how much this is limiting how much data can be loaded at once. Yes, there will be a period of time after a console's release where games don't sell as much, but there can't be progress without risk. The hardware is really showing it's age and needs to be updated. Also, I absolutely love how game makers have sacrificed a steady framerate for graphics. Blighttown in Dark souls, and FF13-2 dipping is all a testament to that.
  • griffinkat - January 30, 2012 6:57 p.m.

    I'm sorry but everyone that moans that games don't look good enough just annoy me. You can polish a piece of crap but it's still crap. Go watch mybusters for that. It's not graphics that make a good game. And on top of that first games for any new system tend to be the weakest. It's only after a systems been out that the best games start to come out. Look at last year and the games coming this year, Skyrim, Uncharted 3, mass effect 3, These are some of the deepest games we've had sense the release of ps3/360 (and yes I know pc is better blah blah). Anyone that wants a new system when there's not much to gain from it is crazy. Could they look better? Sure but is that really all we need? Is that what it boils down to? I'd rather have better games with decent graphics then the best graphics and clunky games.
  • TheAsterite - January 30, 2012 11:30 p.m.

    Ah yes, Skyrim, where you see horizontal black lines on surfaces when the sun's position changes and where cities have to be separated by a loading screen because of memory limitations. Mass Effect, which is running on UDK that has been slowly updating since Unreal Tournament came out, built out of small contained areas separated by numerous loading screens. That's just the games. The PS3 web browser constantly tells me its out of memory and group chat can't be added because of the small kernel necessary because games need the memory. Games aren't just about graphics, games require am entire system working in harmony to support the vision of the developer. And right now, developers have to make lots of sacrifices due to the insufficient hardware of the system.
  • Gex4212 - January 30, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    Well I for one am glad that they are holding off. The PS3 has a lot of steam left in the console. While I love my 360 I feel MS is heading in another direction with their system it seems that they are heading towards a Media Hub console instead of a gamer's console. It shows because of the lack of exclusive IPs and all this kinect talk. But I dont think there is much left in the 360. The Wii was pretty much done for. It was a steady decline but it made tons of money. I think the wii would of been great if they were more heavy on 3rd party games and less shovelware. That has always been Nintendo's problem. While I may agree that PC gaming is far ahead of console I do want to say that PC gaming on the Higher End is a minority compared to the Console Demographic. Too much involved when making a game for PC users because everyone's Rig is different some are newer than others and Devs have to take into account for all that.
  • inkyspot - January 30, 2012 8:15 p.m.

    If your right about the Xbox, an honestly I am leaning on agreeing with you, I am definately not getting the next one. I love it when these companies make it easy for me... PS4 (Whenever you come out), I am coming.
  • D0CCON - January 30, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    I'm still trying to figure out why people think the current gens graphics need improving. They still look fantastic to me. Maybe not jaw-dropping, but looking over a vista in Skyrim or Red Dead or booting up Crysis 2 on a console makes me wonder why people are sick of the current gen's graphics.
  • Travia220 - January 30, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    Load up Crysis 2 DX11 Mode and you'll see what you are missing. Console games look atrocious, use archaic technology, everything about consoles is dated. It's not like the next iteration of consoles is going to bring something amazing. Best you'll probably start seeing IS Crysis 2 DX11 Mode type games.
  • D0CCON - January 31, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    Define atrocious. Not as good as a maxed out PC version? Sure. Remotely bad in any way? Hell no. Early PS1 games look atrocious. This is not atrocious.
  • GhostNappa2k10 - January 31, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    Everytime I stand on the edge of a cliff in RDR (which, by the way, ISN'T even on PC), and look at the horizon, I think "Holy mother of pearl, does this game look damn good". Sure, consoles don't look as good as PC, but there's no argument that there's a lot of games with damn good graphics on console, considering the age of the tech.
  • DualWieldingIsNotFeasible - January 30, 2012 3:40 p.m.

    I'm willing to bet that we see a Microsoft announcement at E3, and maybe something from Sony. A holiday 2013 release for either new system seems like a certainty at this point.
  • ultimatepunchrod - January 30, 2012 3:39 p.m.

    I'm happy and sad that they aren't coming out yet. Happy for my wallet, sad for my eyes.

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