Marriage in Fable II ‘just an excuse to have sex,’ says Molyneux

Lionhead Studios’ Peter Molyneux has often been criticized for overhyping upcoming Fable games. His unbridled enthusiasm shines through with extra helpings of hyperbole in every interview and demonstration. But even though Molyneux seems to love hyping upcoming Fable games, he also seems more than willing to speak candidly about faults and failures in past Fable titles.

Speaking at the Develop Conference in Brighton, Molyneux spoke critically about Fable II, calling it ‘rushed’ and citing ‘huge design flaws.’ “Let’s be honest, it had some terribly messy things about it. We rushed at the end, where we had this terrible phase where we went from ‘the world looks this beautiful with this many features’ to being less beautiful and less features because we had so many bugs.”

How many bugs? According to Molyneux, 61,000 bugs were found in a build sent to Microsoft for testing, so many that the development studio had to change course, cutting planned features for Fable II. But bugs weren’t the only problems with Fable II. “To be honest with you there were also huge design flaws in Fable II. There were game features that people just didn’t use or only used once. A great example of that was getting married. It didn’t mean anything, it didn’t add to the game. It was just an excuse to have sex, to find out whether it was another hot coffee,” said Molyneux.

This isn’t the first time Molyneux spoke critically of Fable II. During GamesRadar’s last interview with Molyneux at E3 2010, the first thing the developer said to us was “Fable II’s story was rubbish.”

Source: via CVG

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  • JohnnyMaverik - July 16, 2010 4:24 p.m.

    @ Craza If by perfectionist you mean straight up insane, I agree with you. The problem is it's like he always has to try and stick in some system that has never been attempted before, which is great in theory, in practice they never seem that well thought through and are straight up extremely hard to implement. Lionhead are just overly ambitious, and becoming a ruler half way through the game will lead to this games insanely overly ambitious and therefore half arsed and shallow system... probably.
  • DeviousMonkey - July 16, 2010 9:30 a.m.

    It's good he can criticize his old games, otherwise he'd never try and improve upon them... I hope he never changes tbh. If you enjoyed Fable 2, why would it matter what someones else opinion of it is.
  • Craza - July 16, 2010 8:17 a.m.

    I honestly think Molyneux is just a perfectionist, and that he never thinks anything he's done is good enough. I get that way too. .-.
  • theemporer - July 16, 2010 3:52 a.m.

    Clovin64, you made my day.
  • D0CCON - July 15, 2010 11:21 p.m.

    I'm going to go ask Molyneux for a refund on the crap he sold me then. If he knew it sucked ass, why did he try to sell it and say it was the greatest thing since sliced bread? To be honest, I did enjoy the game a lot, but it sounds weird to hear how a designer can call his game awful well after everybody who was going to buy it did. I'm betting that Fable 3 will be shit in his eyes in another 2 to 3 years when Fable 4 comes out.
  • Clovin64 - July 15, 2010 11:05 p.m.

    I feel that I should clarify that it was my family in fable 2 (as in my wife and newly born child) that I killed, not my family in real life. That would have REALLY been frowned upon.
  • Clovin64 - July 15, 2010 11 p.m.

    I spent so damn long trying to figuire out how to have sex in fable 2. It was totally NOT worth it, so I massacered my entire family to vent my rage. Please nobody do this in real life. Killing your family on account of being sexually dissatisfied is frowned upon in most societies.
  • juicenpancakes - July 15, 2010 10:47 p.m.

    I remember playing co-op with my friend in Fable II and spending about 2 hours with him helping him getting a wife and kids (for his Achievement obsession). And within about 5 minutes of his child being born he used a powerful lightning attack and killed his entire family that we worked 2 hours on.
  • JohnnyMaverik - July 15, 2010 10:27 p.m.

    Fable games, 'Just an excuse for Molyneux to talk... and talk... and then talk some more' says Maverik.
  • Bloodstorm - July 15, 2010 8:21 p.m.

    Well, there was the side quest where your kid runs off and you must save them, and if you have 2 wives there is a side quest in which you are blackmailed. I wanted to have an army of children, but you could only have two children per wife and one wife per town so I didn't get my arm of minions.
  • oryandymackie - July 15, 2010 7:56 p.m.

    Then when Fable III comes out...
  • SumthingStupid - July 15, 2010 7:16 p.m.

    the point of marriage in fable 2 was to have multiple in the same town and watch them discover each other and fight, and to have kids too
  • RebornKusabi - July 15, 2010 6:59 p.m.

    Ugh... my ****ing piece of **** computer just shut down for no reason thanks to goddamn Windows Update! Fine, if that's how it's going to be than I'll just put the mountains of words that I just typed, that I wrote completely neutrally without taking any stance on an intellectual level, and just instead take sides based on my personal opinion. Nerds and virgins only care about having sex in video games. It's only masturbatory aid or something that is amusing to watch because of how terrible it looks. Women and socially repressed individuals only care about playing house with fictional characters, i.e. marriage. There is no emotional take-back from the game since you yourself is not married to someone you either love, lust for or settled for. Maybe next time I comment, my stupid computer won't randomly shut off because I really HATE trolling...
  • Ded - July 15, 2010 6:54 p.m.

    Curses, db1331 made the obvious joke before me.
  • Ded - July 15, 2010 6:54 p.m.

    Just like marriage in real life!!!1 Bad joke. So us suckers who paid for Fable II after all the hype.. and it turns out to be rubbish. I don't suppose we get a discount on Fable III? :D
  • db1331 - July 15, 2010 6:53 p.m.

    So is marriage in real life.
  • FriendlyFire - July 15, 2010 6:50 p.m.

    Isn't Molyneux always hyping his next game and bashing his previous one? Sounds oddly familiar.

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