• bobbot - April 20, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    Did DotA Allstars and DotA 2 get passed up for LoL because they're either not a stand-alone game or still currently in beta? Other games I'd wonder if were considered would be Demon's Souls, Muramasa, and Harvest Moon.
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 11:37 p.m.

    Dota 2 isn't out, yeah. I mean, we don't even know how it's going to work when it is out - it's not even done. And LoL > DotA.
  • Ares B - April 20, 2012 11:24 p.m.

    What about Falcon, M1 Tank Platoon, IL-2 Sturmovik, Gunship, Operation: Flashpoint, World War 2 Online? Not even Microsoft Flight Simulator made it to the list!
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 11:27 p.m.

    It's meant to be games that hold up, and are still playable now. Some of those are, but WW2 online? Is that even still available?
  • Ares B - April 21, 2012 12:09 a.m.

    Yeah, it is.
  • Ares B - April 21, 2012 12:21 a.m.

    And I believe that a game that tries to recreate ground, air and naval war at such a megalomaniacal scale, and has been successful in it for whopping TEN YEARS, deserves at least a honorary mention.
  • TheZigMan - April 20, 2012 11:19 p.m.

    Where's EVE Online?
  • Ares B - April 20, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    Best games EVER made? These are all NEW games here! Where's the Ultima series? Zork? Elite? Impossible Mission? Mercenary? All the 8-bit goodness?
  • nokeisoka - April 20, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    putting civ V ahead of the other civs when they still haven't fixed the very frequent multiplayers problems is silly.
  • purple_omlet - April 20, 2012 10:31 p.m.

    You said that Ocarina of Time doesn't fit in with today's standards and then put Tetris in the second place slot? Perfect sense. I'm convinced you guys don't know what good games are anymore.
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    No, we said that we weren't going to include doubles of similar games in the same series, and Wind Waker > OOT. Tetris is still the perfect puzzle game.
  • BladedFalcon - April 20, 2012 11:33 p.m.

    Tetris's simple but additive game-play, and equally simple graphics work just as well now as they did 20+ years ago. You can show it to a kid today, and once he gives it a few tries, I bet you it can get hooked on it. Ocarina's barrier of entry is much higher, and graphics and gameplay IS dated, specially when compared to newer Zeldas. Also, I'm sure you're totally an authority to judge what games are the best for EVERYOBDY and that EVERYBODY will find to be good, regardless of actual taste or opinion. *Rolls eyes*
  • datProtein - April 20, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    Uhm... where is The Neverhood Chronicles?
  • daneoid - April 20, 2012 10:22 p.m.

    1:Eve Online 2:Medieval 2:Total War 3:Portal 2 4:Half Life 2 5:Bioshock 6:Skyrim 7:The legend of Zelda: A link to the past 8:GTA IV 9.Sim City 4 10:Mega Man 2 That is all.
  • carson-essenceofcool-koschik - April 20, 2012 9:48 p.m.

    So Burnout: Paradise makes the list but OCARINA OF TIME DOESN'T?!?!?!
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 10:18 p.m.

    "No repeats. 100 is a small number when you’re judging an entire medium, so we couldn’t afford to include more than one example from each series, unless that series evolved substantially. Yes, you’ll find multiple Zeldas, Marios and GTAs, but only because they’ve offered brand new experiences again and again."
  • Bones96 - April 20, 2012 10:39 p.m.

    So explain how Portal 2 is so much different than the first one.
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 11:17 p.m.

    Completely different experiences within the same idea. One was a 3-hour long vignette, the other was an opera.
  • Asmodean - April 21, 2012 11:57 a.m.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! Trying to explains this simple fact is like smashing your head on a brick wall to these people. It's almost like they didn't bother to read the intent of the article or what was written in each entry.
  • carson-essenceofcool-koschik - April 20, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    Yes, but it's OCARINA OF TIME! It's the game that is universally known as the greatest game of all time! You can't just leave it out!
  • GR HollanderCooper - April 20, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    Wind Waker > OOT.

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