Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Total Film
  • home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • View Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
    • Total Film
Trending
  • Crimson Desert
  • Arc Raiders
  • The Boys S5
  • Best turn-based RPGs
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
Don't miss these
Pickmon
Survival Games Pokemon and Palworld clone Pickmon changes its name by one letter to "better align with our brand identity and lore"
Pickmon
Survival Games Pokemon and Palworld clone Pickmos removed from Steam: "We are revising the game"
TemTem pioneers screenshot showing people flying on beasts
Survival Games Studio behind one of the best monster-taming games around rejects the "Pokemon killer" tag
Pokemon Gold and Silver
Pokemon The best Pokemon games, ranked from worst to best
Pickmon
Survival Games Pokemon fan artist alleges new Palworld clone Pickmon "stole one of my designs"
Pickmon
Survival Games Pokemon and Palworld clones are officially out of hand, as fans react to "lawsuitmaxxing" new game Pickmon
Pokemon Pokopia screenshot showing Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle all gathered around a Ditto in human form between two green trees
Pokemon The ultimate Pokemon Pokopia guide for restoring the world around you
Pokemon Pokopia screenshot
Pokemon Pokemon Pokopia review: "A brilliantly bizarre blend of Pokemon and Animal Crossing"
Palworld
Survival Games Pocketpair publishing head reacts to Pokemon and Palworld ripoff Pickmon: "Someone is a fan of the genre, I guess"
Tomodachi Life living the dream screenshot showing a giant woman looking at a smaller woman
Simulation Games Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream players turn the life sim into a Pokemon game with pixel art pets
Pokemon Champions
Pokemon Pokemon Champions matches end in draws when the timer runs out, and no one can decide if that's a good thing
Pokemon Pikachu
Adventure Games The 10 best games like Pokemon for the discerning trainer
A pokemon prepares for battle
Pokemon Pokemon Champions makes poor first impression on fans: 6v6 singles, popular items, and mons missing
Key art for Pokemon Champions
Pokemon Pokemon Champions reportedly has a "massive bug" that's trapping 'mons from Pokemon Home "in limbo"
Pokemon Pokopia screenshot showing Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle all gathered around a Ditto in human form between two green trees
Pokemon After 30 years, Pokemon Pokopia finally answers an important question for "the hardcore lore freaks"
  1. Games
  2. Adventure Games
  3. Pokemon

After last week's Pokemon leaks canceled Typhlosion, a new translation of the alleged lore paints the fire-type in a much more favorable light

News
By Catherine Lewis published 18 October 2024

The Typhlosion situation just got more complicated

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Typhlosion smiles happily as it's brushed in the Pokemon anime.
(Image credit: The Pokemon Company)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
Subscribe to our newsletter

It's been quite a week for Pokemon fans, and especially those with a soft-spot for the beloved Johto region starter, Typhlosion. Following a huge leak at developer Game Freak, alleged short stories detailing everything from the origin of the Pokemon universe to strange folklore-style tales about human-Pokemon relationships surfaced online.

One of these stories was about Typhlosion, and to put it politely, it didn't depict the Pokemon in a very flattering way. The alleged tale seemed to describe the Fire-type taking in a girl (who many assumed to be a child, since she wasn't described as a woman) while disguised, and making her forget about her family, before becoming her husband and father to her child. 

It was… a lot to take in, but according to one Twitter user, Roltas01 – with the help of three translators, LonFuneon, Loudkuyuki, and Dark_Kudoh – the text of this supposed tale was machine translated when it first surfaced. This apparently led to the shared English version being full of discrepancies, and missing context about the Japanese folklore that may have inspired it. 

Article continues below
You may like
  • Pokemon Pokopia screenshot showing Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle all gathered around a Ditto in human form between two green trees After 30 years, Pokemon Pokopia finally answers an important question for "the hardcore lore freaks"
  • Pokemon Go Guzzlord Raid Pokemon Ultra Beasts are "a manifestation of my own resentment," Game Freak artist says after designs were rejected
  • A screenshot of the player character looking at the three starter Pokemon in Pokemon Winds and Waves. Pokemon being "a game for children" is "a misunderstanding," Game Freak veteran once said

From this newly human-translated version, it's claimed that the 'girl' in question was actually a young woman – her exact age still isn't clear, but @Roltas01 suggests it's "more in line with the age of 'adult' women displayed in folklore back then." Furthermore, it's suggested that the Typhlosion in the story is an allegory for a mythical creature, the shapeshifting yokai, Mujina, which would tie into the Pokemon disguising itself. 

Roltas01 claims that certain aspects of the story – namely, the woman forgetting about her family, and the marriage – are examples of influences from Japanese folklore tropes. They also allege: "Giving birth to a monster and a human's child is just a way to represent that the woman may never be human and go live with her folks ever again, since her blood is now related to the spiritual world and can't go back. It's a point of no return symbolized by the birth of new life."

While it may come off as the Thyplosion actively hypnotizing and taking advantage of the young woman; people forgetting about their life after interacting with the yokai is just a recurring trope in Japanese folklore. You may find this in more media inspired by Meiji mithology pic.twitter.com/KYJdknsoWEOctober 16, 2024

Ultimately, it seems that it may all be a matter of perspective – Roltas01 points to Western folktales that "used to display very young women falling in love with older men," and says "Typhlosion's story isn't any weirder than the original tale of Beauty and the Beast. It's just the way folklore used to be." Traditional tales like these are full of questionable things, so they're not wrong there, but it's still debatable whether that would 'justify' some of the events in the Typhlosion story. Symbolic or not, the woman did apparently have a child with the Pokemon. 

Regardless of this new translation, though, it's important to keep in mind that we should take the legitimacy of all these supposed stories with a pinch of salt, as the surge of leaks could have easily led to fake information being spread around without being questioned. On top of that, if it is real, this isn't information that's ever been officially distributed, so it's contentious whether it could even be classed as 'canon.' For all we know, the lore could have been long since dismissed and forgotten about internally. At the end of the day, if Typhlosion was your favorite Pokemon, you definitely shouldn't let all of this get in the way of that. 

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Be sure to check out our ranking of the best Pokemon games for your next adventure.

CATEGORIES
Nintendo Platforms
Catherine Lewis
Catherine Lewis
Social Links Navigation
Deputy News Editor

I'm GamesRadar+'s Deputy News Editor, working alongside the rest of the news team to deliver cool gaming stories that we love. After spending more hours than I can count filling The University of Sheffield's student newspaper with Pokemon and indie game content, and picking up a degree in Journalism Studies, I started my career at GAMINGbible where I worked as a journalist for over a year and a half. I then became TechRadar Gaming's news writer, where I sourced stories and wrote about all sorts of intriguing topics. In my spare time, you're sure to find me on my Nintendo Switch or PS5 playing through story-driven RPGs like Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona 5 Royal, nuzlocking old Pokemon games, or going for a Victory Royale in Fortnite.

Read more
Pokemon Pokopia screenshot showing Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle all gathered around a Ditto in human form between two green trees
Pokemon After 30 years, Pokemon Pokopia finally answers an important question for "the hardcore lore freaks"
 
 
Pokemon Go Guzzlord Raid
Pokemon Pokemon Ultra Beasts are "a manifestation of my own resentment," Game Freak artist says after designs were rejected
 
 
A screenshot of the player character looking at the three starter Pokemon in Pokemon Winds and Waves.
Pokemon Pokemon being "a game for children" is "a misunderstanding," Game Freak veteran once said
 
 
A Snorlax covered in moss sits in a dark room with moonlight streaming in from above. A screenshot from Pokopia.
Pokemon Pokemon Pokopia seemingly hints at a tragic fate for a specific NPC from FireRed and LeafGreen
 
 
A human ditto taking a picture with a Ivysaur and  Venusaur in Pokemon Pokopia.
Pokemon After 48 hours, I've realized Pokopia is my ideal Pokemon game and humans were the problem all along
 
 
A screenshot from Pokopia of a ghostly Pikachu called Peakychu
Adventure Games Pokopia's new Pikachu form was dubbed "unfortunate Pikachu" by co-dev Koei Tecmo, but it comes from a place of love
 
 
Latest in Pokemon
Lugia in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness
Pokemon Nasty Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness Switch 2 bug that was costing players progress has been fixed
 
 
A female, pink-haired Pokemon trainer stands victorious after a battle in Pokemon Champions.
Pokemon I spent 12 hours making a Pokemon Champions team that's caused so many forfeits I almost feel bad
 
 
A pink-haired player punches the air in victory in Pokemon Champions.
Pokemon Does Pokemon Champions require NSO?
 
 
Pokemon Champions
Pokemon Pokemon Champions matches end in draws when the timer runs out, and no one can decide if that's a good thing
 
 
Incineroar gets ready for battle in Pokemon Champions.
Pokemon The best Pokemon in Pokemon Champions
 
 
Tatora, the Pokemon Champions ranked battle NPC, smiles.
Pokemon All Pokemon Champions ranks
 
 
Latest in News
The title character on the box art for Buck Bumble
Third Person Shooters Reconstituted Star Fox studio is seemingly teasing a Buck Bumble revival
 
 
An orc from World of Warcraft roars at the screen
World of Warcraft Blizzard lawsuit kills huge private World of Warcraft server as a cease and desist ends another
 
 
Hades scratches his chin in Kingdom Hearts 3
Kingdom Hearts Starving Kingdom Hearts 4 hopefuls lap up tiny breadcrumbs from actor James Woods: "I can't comment, but I wish I could"
 
 
Final Fantasy 14
Final Fantasy Square Enix slaps Final Fantasy 14 content creator with lawsuit over alleged harassment
 
 
Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral
Action Games Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
 
 
The first look at the new Street Fighter movie in the trailer
Action Movies Talk to Me directors have an impossibly cool cameo in the new Street Fighter trailer despite dropping out of the film
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. An orc from World of Warcraft roars at the screen
    1
    Blizzard lawsuit kills huge private World of Warcraft server as a cease and desist ends another
  2. 2
    Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make his own game, a single-player MMO-like where you tank for NPCs
  3. 3
    Square Enix slaps Final Fantasy 14 content creator with lawsuit over alleged harassment, continuing its crackdown on the MMO's bullies
  4. 4
    Starving Kingdom Hearts 4 hopefuls lap up tiny breadcrumbs from actor James Woods: "I can't comment, but I wish I could!"
  5. 5
    Talk to Me directors have an impossibly cool cameo in the new Street Fighter trailer despite dropping out of the film

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...