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Voice of Duke Nukem defends Duke Nukem Forever

The critics have not been kind to Duke Nukem. More specifically, a majority of reviewers have panned his latest appearance in Duke Nukem Forever; a game currently fetching an average score of 49 (out of 100) on the review aggregate site Metacritic. In defense of Gearbox's Duke Nukem revival, the voice of Mr.Nukem himself, Jon St John, recently offered his own mini-review, delivering a subtle jab to the game's harshest critics in the process.

"I have no comments regarding bad reviews by clueless critics," he told TheJoyPads, immediately commenting, "They seem to want to compare Duke Nukem Forever to Call Of Duty and other FPS' and they are missing the point. My thoughts about Duke Nukem Forever: It freakin' rocks! Lots of action, lots of fun, sexy, funny, irreverent... It's everything I hoped it would be."

Fair enough - you can't blame a guy for standing up for his project. You can, however, stare disapprovingly at the founder of The Redner Company, on 2K's PR outlets who recently threatened critics on Twitter, writing,  “Too many went too far with their reviews...we are reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn’t based on today’s venom ...Bad scores are fine. Venom filled reviews… that’s completely different.”

The message was deleted shortly after it was spotted by the gaming press, and 2K Games was quick to make it clear The Redner Group would no longer be representing its games.

As for Duke Nukem Forever developer Gearbox , studio head Randy Pitchford perhaps summed up the whole review row best when he  tweeted: “With sales data, It seems like *customers* love Duke. I guess sometimes we want greasy hamburgers instead of caviar...”

GamesRadar wasn’t exactly thrilled with Duke Nukem Forever. We stand by every word in our review, which awarded the return of the Duke with a “Decent” six-out-of-ten score. According to Senior Editor Mikel Reparaz, “Duke Nukem Forever’s world-record development time has produced an ugly, buggy shooter that veers back and forth between enjoyably average and outright boring, with occasional surges of greatness along the way.” Let us know if you side with Jon St John and Pitchford or tend to agree with the 'clueless critics'.

[Source: EurogamerTheJoypads]

Jun 17, 2011

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47 comments

  • Baron164 - June 17, 2011 6:20 p.m.

    I'd side with Jon. If I was going to give it a score I'd give it a solid 7 for Xbox 360 and probably 8 for PC. The load times, limit to 2 weapons and no coop hurt. The PC version doesn't have the load time issues. I'm almost finished with the game on 360 myself but so far I'm leaning towards a solid 7. It's not the best game of the year by a long shot but I'm still enjoying it and having fun with it.
  • snipes101 - June 17, 2011 6:22 p.m.

    Haven't played it but I have seen some of the reviews and they're downright mean. It's a throwback and one that was plopped into GB's lap just to get the damn thing out. My prediction: they make a newer, better DN in the future now that the licence belongs to them (I think). They did what they could to clean Forever up, released it and got people talking about Duke again.
  • Baron164 - June 17, 2011 6:30 p.m.

    @snipes101 I totally agree, there are 4 developers credited on the game, 3D Realms, Triptych, Paranha and Gearbox so it's no surprise the game is a bit of a mess. I'm hoping that Gearbox can take the IP and make a really good Duke Nukem game in the years to come. I'm still hoping for a patch on 360 that fixes the load times but I'm doubting it will happen.
  • db1331 - June 17, 2011 6:30 p.m.

    I stand by my original statement that this game should have never been released. It was the longest-running (and one of the best) jokes in gaming. It's just sad to see what it came down to. If I were a Duke Nukem fan, I think I would prefer to have spent the rest of my life wondering about the potential of what could have been, instead of knowing the harsh reality of just how bad this game is. I can only imagine what it's like for the people who had this pre-ordered for over a decade. It's probably like being given a chance to go back in time and tell the one that got away how you really feel about her after wondering what might have been your whole life, only for her to tell you she doesn't like you that way. Now your dreams are ruined and you are left worse off than before.
  • db1331 - June 17, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    And another thing. It's not like there are Duke Nukem "Haters" out there. Nobody wanted to see this thing fail. I doubt anyone walked into the review process with a preconceived bias like they might with a CoD or Halo game. If somebody thought it sucked, it's because it sucks. Also, is there a cooler name than Jon St. John?
  • ToyBoxGamer - June 17, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    I won't take a side i'm only a couple hours in and i'm happy with duke. its a blast from the past. there are worse games out there that deserve far worse than the venom thats fallen to Duke. Bad reviews are just that opinions and other opinions are always available 7/10 is fair. but mistakes were made.
  • TheDigitalG - June 17, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    I'm not even an old-school fan (completed 3D but only got halfway through Land of the Babes) but this game was awesome. Gamers seem spoilt by graphical advancements today, and reject every game that has framerate or texture loading problems. DNF looked terrible by today's standards but the gameplay is top-notch. I didn't agree with Mikel saying the jokes are dated either, I laughed at pretty much all of them and being a huge action film fan, the Arnie quotes were massively appreciated. The ONLY thing that bugged me was the HHNNGG he does every time you jump. TL;DR I don't agree with the reviews, give me fun over gorgeous, and video game critics are slowly descending into the cavern of hate I usually reserve for movie critic-snobs.
  • ChrisCultista - June 17, 2011 6:44 p.m.

    @db JESUS! "pre0ordered for over a decade." I just thought about that statement and it sploded my mind. So what im getting out of the situation is. 1. DNF was a crappy nostalgia grab. 2. Voice actor defends his game. (Which I respect) And a PR guy threatens that reviews wont have to review the shitter games from 2k. (Which is just plain lulzy) 3. Uses a argument that what the people want is what is best. Which is just stupid because the people want Double Quarter Pounders with Cheese and a 54 ounce coke and SPAM, also lard. And that shit is pure heart attack.
  • batman5273 - June 17, 2011 6:56 p.m.

    I agree with Mikel!
  • RedOutlive10 - June 17, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    If you don't want to be compared to the other games of the generation, don't have the same price, because this means you want to be held in the same standards as every other product with the same value. Reviews might have been harsh, but hey you're the one asking 60 bucks for it. Might as well lay in the bed you've made.
  • Larinah - June 17, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    I side with Jon. The game is a blast, and the achievements are, for me personally, what makes the campaign replayable. I didn't notice any bad problems with textures in my already 3 playthroughs, though I was bothered by the sound of gunfire stamping out the sound of Duke's voice. I missed a bunch of epic 1-liners because if I stopped shooting, I stopped living. I never found the game boring, and it made me think outside the box many times to get through. I would personally give it an 8. Not GotY material, but definitely a must-play for Duke fans.
  • TheDigitalG - June 17, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    @Larinah, go to the pause menu and increase Dukes voice in the sound. I had the same problem :)
  • TheDigitalG - June 17, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    @RedOutlive10, I think his point was comparing two obviously different games is a dumb thing to do, not the quality. As an example, you wouldn't compare Portal 2 with Bejewelled. Sure, they're both puzzle games, but they're nothing alike gameplay-wise.
  • Evil_AppleJuice - June 17, 2011 7:27 p.m.

    I personally understand why others complain about this game, but as I've been going through it on hard, it's not a 49/100. After getting Duke Nukem 3D for my Iphone and re-living one of his great games, I was reminded that I'm not supposed to play DNF like other games. Its balls out, its hard as hell, and its really fun. It's about putting yourself in the mentality that you are playing as Duke, about laughing at his jokes, never letting go of the trigger, and squashing mini pigcops. Hands down, a good solid game with the right mentality.
  • ParagonT - June 17, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    Okay, Duke has gotten plenty of flak from reviewers which is above all else a bit harsh. But a reviewer's job is to be a critic, whether it's harsh or not. It is by far very unprofessional as a game developer/previous staff member to try and criticize reviews criticism. Anybody can be a reviewer, it doesn't take a high school diploma even. But a developer is different. I do not blame the developers for it's flop, people wanted a Duke Nukem game that brought nostalgia while keeping to the core audience. They did just that, they kept it a true Duke Nuken game, but consumers didn't think it was "new/ground breaking enough." This is because consumers doesn't even know what they want at times. The developers were not only at fault with their vision and development, but a victim of the consumers expectations in this time.
  • PaulieWaulie - June 17, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    Maybe if it was a £10 download title people wouldn't feel as insulted, although I'd still feel insulted that they put a shit stain mark on a franchise that is such a fond memory of my youth. Also if they didn't care about review scores why did they enforce such a dubious review embargo? If a game doesn't have a review at the latest the day before release any where then you know it's a turd on a disc.
  • taterboob - June 17, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    "With sales data, It seems like *customers* love Duke. I guess sometimes we want greasy hamburgers instead of caviar...” I can't stand arguments like this, for games or movies. Initial sales numbers have nothing to do with the perceived quality of the title. Strong day one sales were based entirely on hype over Duke's return and nostalgia, not because the game was good. When review scores are that near unanimous in the negative, you have to kind of pull your head out of the sand a little bit and admit that the game wasn't as good as it could have been
  • TheGuy0526 - June 17, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    Dude, its not a shit stain mark for any franchise. If you're looking for top of the line action and game mechanics, then this game isn't for you. Go play CoD or Battlefield. Anybody who buys this game is looking for a laugh, since obviously thats what the game is all about. Its supposed to be crude, abnoxious, and funny. So what if it didn't match up with the top of the line games comin out nowadays? That wasn't the point. So stop whining and realize that this isn't a hardcore game; its just supposed to be fun. If you've got a problem with that, don't buy it and shut up. It makes all of our lives easier.
  • BrunDeign - June 17, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    I can see where Jon is coming from. You really can't put Duke Nukem in the same category as Soap and Captain Price. Their respective games are completely different in tone and style. I still think Duek Nukem Forever looks boring in terms of gameplay but still.
  • HaVoK308 - June 17, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    I'm willing to bet that most gamers who picked up DNF are not too happy with their purchase. Sure some people will never admit they made a bad purchasing decision and can find a pretty rose in a pile of shit if they look hard enough. People see what they want to see. I was excited for the game. I pre-ordered it early and anxiously awaited the demo. After playing through the demo I was shocked at how bad it was. I found it insulting that the developers would try to sell me on something so awful. I immediately canceled my pre-order and never looked back.

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