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  • Frieza - July 14, 2014 9:57 a.m.

    Gosh, so many thoughts about today's reveal... Did more FE characters really deserve a standalone 3 minute trailer? Why does FE get more reps than F-Zero, Metroid, and possibly Kirby and Donkey Kong? Is FE super popular in Japan or something? Why does Marth with a vagina get in and not someone more interesting? I never played FE, but I'm sure there are more interesting and diverse characters than her. Did anyone else feel like the FE characters were completely overshadowed by Captain Falcon? When are we getting a new F-Zero game?
  • shawksta - July 14, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    Fire Emblem awakening was more or less a very successful game for both japan and here in the US back last year. It was a given they were gonna get represenation. Falcon's entire reveal was kind of the point to overshadow them, so many damn people keep asking and being worried if Falcon is getting in or not so there's their answer. Sakurai literally said that same question:
  • Frieza - July 14, 2014 8:05 p.m.

    But does the franchise deserve 4 reps? FE isn't the most recognizable franchise Nintendo has after all. It just seems overkill to have 4 reps when those spots could have gone to more recognizable or diverse characters. Falcon is a fan favorite on top of a veteran, so I'm not sure why people were worried he wasn't going to get in. That being said, he was the only good part of the trailer for me. Why doesn't Miyamoto make a new F-Zero? I don't buy the "there's nothing new I can do with it" excuse. I refuse to believe he can't see potential in the franchise.
  • shawksta - July 14, 2014 9:14 p.m.

    Again, Fire Emblem awakening saved the franchise from dying into obscurity. Though i will agree Robin didnt need to be here, the same can be said to certain past Smash Bros characters. It wouldve been just fine with just Robin along with Marth and Ike. Miyamoto said he wanted to keep it internal as far as the development goes, given both Star Fox and F-Zero havent been internet on their latest outings back in the GC era, for both F-Zero and Star Fox, and he IS starting on Star Fox, maybe afterwards F-Zero is next.
  • C.King - July 15, 2014 3:34 a.m.

    in the games u essentially can decide who her mother is and customize her in many ways. fire emblem really gets you feeling for them with the possible perma death and development and back story. there are alot of cool characters but lucina is still high quality herself. plus she was sorta the face of the game in the ads. the games did pretty well here and after smash bros brought fire emblem to attention in the west, awakening was a big chance many took up to try out the nintendo franchise if they haven't already. if chrom was a playable character too then it might've been too much but... star fox's trio all with land masters. come on. this isn't too bad. as for the other games may not have gotten reps captain falcon's moveset was already completly made up except for the final smash so source material for move for other characters is a issue there. Samus is practically alone in her world except for ridely and some very minor characters, maybe her rival bounty hunters but idk. kirby's cast only has the painter girl, the spear waddle dee( with the king using them as munition that'd be awkward), ya know who would be cool though? prince fluff. DK actually has the dk crew, dixy kong and maybe king k rool. with recency in mind could be cranky kong
  • DarthEnderX - July 14, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    Also, why do they ALL gotta be swordsmen. Why couldn't we get some Tharja in there. She's like the most well-known character in Awakening.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 noon

    Because you're dealing with Nintendo. When have they ever done what's most logical?
  • DarthEnderX - July 14, 2014 9:26 a.m.

    At first, I thought adding 3(4) more Fire Emblem characters all at once was kind of ridiculous. But then I realized that Male and Female Robin are likely just a costume/voice swap, using the exact same move set. Then I wondered if Lucina and Chrom weren't going to be that as well, given that Chrom, like Female Robin, was sort of an afterthought at the end of the trailer.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 12:02 p.m.

    I think chrom is only part of a final smash, or a trophy assist.
  • shawksta - July 14, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    Nah, Chrom is lucina's final Smash actually.
  • sweetchiliheat - July 14, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    Really? In the video it shows Robin & Chrom attacking the target. I don't see Lucina anywhere.
  • shawksta - July 14, 2014 12:45 p.m.

    My bad, the other way around, Chrom appears in Robin's final Smash.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 8:47 a.m.

    o.O Wait wait, Lucina AND Robin!? On top of having Ike already confirmed? Woah. Still might have preferred other character that wasn't a lord or a sword wielder, but it looks like Robin will at least be able to use magic, so that at least is DIFFERENT from every other fucking FE character that has appeared in smash so far >_>
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 8:56 a.m.

    Oh, and Marth, which I ahd forgotten is also confirmed in the game. ...For Fuck's sake Nintendo, you have a wonderful series, filled with varied characters that go from axe-wielding berserkers, armored spearmen, archers, mages and even friggin' dragon shifters... And from that pool you pick 3 characters that are essentially the same in weaponry, class and style, with one being SO similar he even POSES as the other in the fucking game... Once again, Nintendo fails to make sense, yay!
  • Vonter - July 14, 2014 11:14 a.m.

    Well to be fair this game tries to be more balanced than Brawl (we'll see). If anything I expected Tharja more than Robin due to her exposure for that game, Lucina was very likely. Anyway it seems to be a main theme with this game the customizable characters, with the Villager, the WFT, the Miis and Robin having both genders.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 12:05 p.m. is the inclusion of Lucina over any other, more different character making the game in any way more balanced? Your defenses make no sense sometimes :p
  • Vonter - July 14, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    Well she is very similar to another veteran hence making balance tighter. Also IMO axe characters are boring :p If anything I could have been impressed of a mounted unit, but then we have size issues. Ans lastly this game is ditching transformations so that may be a factor on why dragon or animal shifters weren't considered.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 6:02 p.m.

    ...Which contrasts with Sakurai previous claims that he would be "toning down" clone characters >_> As boring an axe character could be, can't be more boring than what's essentially a palette swap for marth :P Even without bringing mounts or shapeshifters into the mix. You still have mercenaries, assassins, berserkers, soilders, generals, snipers, mages, priests, or shamans to choose from. All of them have none of the problems you mention above, and any of them would be way more varied and interesting than yet another fucking sword wielding lord. Heck, if they were so intent on using only lords, they could at LEAST chosen Ephraim, he has the decency to use SPEARS for a fucking change >_>
  • Vonter - July 14, 2014 6:30 p.m.

    Well there still some newcomers to be revealed yet. Although Sakurai has stated we're reaching the last reveals. Will the rumors about Shulk and the Choir boys be true? Or we will be dumbfounded by an unexpected inclusion. Who knows, and that is kind of the fun.
  • BladedFalcon - July 14, 2014 7:30 p.m.

    It's fair to guess that there won't be any more FE characters, there's a ton as it is. And yeah, the surprise is fine, Nintendo definitely knows how to handle characters reveals better than Capcom at least. They sure have fucked up big time in the past, lol.
  • shawksta - July 14, 2014 10:13 p.m.

    "Nobody guessed the character right" %90 guessed Decapre Sheesh Compared to last night where the gematsu leaker, whose so far been on a streak "Enjoy my friend Shulk Tommorrow" Not only does it not be shulk, but flat out deconfirms Chrom and gets 2 characters that wasnt in the "leak" People thought Sakurai wouldnt throw surprises with the "leak" list drowning out the surprises, they were all wrong, it was already a surprise enough we got a random Trophy of Rayman on the Pic of the day.
  • shawksta - July 15, 2014 1:17 p.m.

    You gotta feel bad for Shulk, i was actually rooting for him to get his stardom after the localization fiasco with Xenoblade. I mean, there atleast exists a Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run, yet nothing from Xenoblade, i think the poor guy actually is getting shafted.

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