Pokemon Monday 16 - Nuzlocke newbies

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Welcome to Pokemon Monday, GamesRadar's podcast 100% devoted to all things Pokemon. Step into the bizarre hivemind of several adult Pokemon fantatics each Monday as we bring you a no-frills, raw and unedited passionate Pokemon discussion covering breaking news, events, and whatever else is on our singularly devoted Pokemon brains. No Pokemon-related topic is off limits.

Episode 16 highlights

More cheat device discussion - Is cheating OK if you keep it to yourself? Is RNG abuse cheating?

The Nuzlocke Challenge -  Have you heard of the Nuzlocke Challenge? It's a self-imposed superhard mode way to play the single player Pokemon game. There are two main rules: if a Pokemon faints you must release it as if it had died, and you can only catch the first wild Pokemon you encounter in each area (no second chances if you accidentally KO it). The inventor of the Nuzlocke Challenge also publishes a comic based on his playthrough of the challenge.

Pokemon of the week: Heracross - We salute this wonderfully unique, tough-yet-cute Pokemon. Heracross is the only Bug/Fighting type to date!

Question of the week: Have you tried the Nuzlocke Challenge, and if so, how did it go? If not, would you consider trying it?

See you next week!


  • SkyDragonc5 - October 12, 2010 11:39 p.m.

    I never cheat. Go classic hard work! It would be interesting to try That challenge but I would probably never do it. I already play enough.
  • sammypip - September 13, 2010 12:31 a.m.

    quick question, what do you guys think about tweaking? the zact of overloading the game controls, causing the game to expierience some form of crash, through this technique you can achive a walk-thru-walls effect without using an external device. I mean, you dont use an eexternal device, but your technicly crashing the game, causing it to perform differently, in a way that has very little to do with coding, please respond!
  • classichomer - September 10, 2010 3:58 p.m.

    I've started a Nuzlocke Challenge for Emerald and so far I've only gotten 2 badges and have lost Shadow Man the Poochenya and Tengu Man the Wingull. Tons of fun, after this I'll do a Nuzlocke of Diamond!
  • JamesGordin - September 9, 2010 7:49 p.m.

    i have never cheated after the nintendogs insident where i wanted to use a cheat and it delete ALL may dogs lol
  • jitteryjigglypuff - September 9, 2010 4:17 a.m.

    I don't think I would ever want to play using the nuzlocke would take the fun out of the game for me.
  • Kapuran - September 8, 2010 11:06 p.m.

    I just found out about this podcast yesterday, and fortunately I wasn't too late such that I couldn't listen to all the existing podcasts... so now I'm caught up, and ready to start commenting week-to-week about the contents. So to begin: what a load of bunk, that the Pokemon Sweepstakes is USA only! Give Canada some love... Toronto at least is in a part of Canada that juts right into the States, it can't be that inconvenient to include us, can it? I never nickname my Pokemon. I have been tempted to nickname them once, but only insofar as renaming them their final evolution name but with proper capitalization. It drives me a little crazy that for some reason names and other things are in all caps... but I still didn't actually do that, since keywords like that are always capitalized. So the only time I've ever used nicknames is for competitive battling, to protect identities in PBR. I wish there wasn't hacking in Pokemon, but it's pretty hard to make it impossible. And you know what they say, if you can't beat them... However, I don't hack if I can avoid it. I hacked (or rather, copied the Wonder Card data, to stay as legit as possible) the event-only Pokemon I was missing so I could complete my Dex, but those were immediately released and I'll wait for the real ones to be released over WiFi to actually own them. So long as data is client-side, there will be hacking... the solution, of course, is to put that server-side, and make Pokemon the MMO it should be by now. The economy as it is presently is meaningless as anything that can exist is already completely devalued because of hacking. They can clear it out by making B/W non-compatible... but then people get angry. Okay, wait, that's not entirely true. I played a run of Platinum with a hacked shiny Charizard, Rayquaza, and Dragonite (Team Black Dragon!) because I had already beat Pearl, in its entirety (like 180 hours). But after I got the legit stuff I wanted from Platinum, I dumped the save, so those guys couldn't infect reality. I've only ever come across a legit shiny in game once, and that was a Geodude in Victory Road in FireRed. He selfdestructed on me before I could catch him and it was the worst experience of my life (hyperbole! but you get my point.) My roommate reset his game to get a shiny starter, a couple hundred times, and an old classmate did it for Giratina (I think), also getting lucky and only needing a few hundred tries, but those are the only legit shinies I've experienced in over a decade of Pokemon playing, Nuzlocke looks neat, and I may do it with Platinum, but I don't see how it could be harder than a single-Pokemon run with a Game Over clause. I guess it depends on saving rules; if you can't save and retry things, it would be more interesting... anyway, I think I'll give it a shot, since I wanted to play Platinum anyway. The Nuzlocke comic is absolutely hilarious though, I'm glad to have heard of it via this podcast. Heracross is a very cool Pokemon, but I do have a tendency to avoid non-evolving Pokemon. I would like to see an evolution for it, and as I believe one of you mentioned, a pre-evolution would be nice too. However, there are more pressing evolutions in my opinion. Naturally, I'm expecting another round of Eeveelutions; I doubt they'll finish off the types, but I'd be upset if I never get to see a Dragon Eeveelution. The best pre-evolution in my opinion would be a pre-evolved Scyther/Scizor. I can envision a smaller, yellow-y bug with fork/spork like hands (which later evolve into the knives, then chompers) and tiny useless wings (...not that Scyther's aren't equally useless) which would be both adorable and revealing of the danger to come when evolution time rolls around. And tying into that, Pinsir needs an evolution to catch up with Scyther, as I believe someone mentioned in one of the earlier podcasts, and if Scyther was getting a prevolution, Pinsir could too. Alongside Heracross. I guess that's a lot of bug Pokemon, though. Looking forward to next Monday!
  • Phazon117 - September 8, 2010 9:05 p.m.

    I think the Nuzlocke Challenge is a perfect reason for Pokemon Black/White to have multiple save files. I'd have a standard save file, a Nuzlocke file, and a file to do new games when I'm bored. DO IT NINTENDO.
  • BoltActionRevolver - September 8, 2010 7:29 p.m.

    Ok, I found the best explanation on how to get a Magicarp to evolve
  • interfear1 - September 8, 2010 3:26 p.m.

    I was thinking that a good topic to touch upon on the podcast would be Pokemon names in German and French which I found to be quite hilarious sounding. Just take a few Pokemon and just make fun of the names.
  • philipshaw - September 8, 2010 9:30 a.m.

    Don't think I would want to go any more hardcore than I already do with the game
  • srbaba - September 7, 2010 8:11 p.m.

    hey sry kinda off topic but when you guys were talking about ditto breeding in the black&white it reminded me of what i do. well me and my friend both have the game most of the time and one of us plays through until the first pokemon centre and trade to the other our starter. doing this is how ive went through all the games with all 3 starters. it takes a while but if you rly want to it is worth it. also love the show! ive been playing since gold and silver came out and am only 15. also i agree about the cheating for event pokemon. its fair if youre not to close to events areas like me. ps. what was the website carolynne( sry if i spelt it wrong) but mentioned?
  • QWERTYCommander - September 7, 2010 7:05 p.m.

    @kaltoria Everything looks like shit except the ire starter and it's evolutions.
  • Concussion - September 7, 2010 6:46 a.m.

    Never heard of a Nuzlocke run before but it sounds cool. I'm going to start one on my Ruby and/or Emerald. Won't be releasing Pokemon though, I'll be boxing them forever instead. I'm just not tough enough to let go of the Pokemon that I have raised from level 5 :(.
  • Zack117 - September 7, 2010 4:59 a.m.

    Google: "Repels effects wore off!" images. I couldn't help but think about this image when hearing about getting ambushed by your rival out of caves. Would post link but I don't know the rules for posting links on Gamesradar.
  • MaxBernard - September 7, 2010 3:26 a.m.

    I really like this series you guys have here. In reference to your discussion about RNG abuse: I happen to have just learned how to abuse the RNG for eggs (shiny and IVs) over the summer, and I found a significant distinction between it and the general idea of "cheating". The usual idea of cheating is that a gamer uses cheats to directly produce perfect specimens or change the game's actual code. The methods of RNG abuse, however, require none of this, ARs only used to expedite the process (IV checkers, fast hatching, etc.). Additionally, as you mention, it's a lot of work, and I for one happen to feel a sense of satisfaction upon completing a successful RNG breed akin to what I felt when I bred my four-perfect-IV Bagon a year ago using normal methods. I just wish more people would RNG breed (or breeding was easier) so people could all play on a level field with folks like me who can abuse to get ideal IVs. Keep up the good work!
  • shmoopy97 - September 7, 2010 3:26 a.m.

    I love Pokemon monday and i would love if i could battle one on you guys i am a huge fan of you guys and pokemon. and if you would battle me i would be honerd. and Carolin (probably misspelled) you are like my idle i agree with you on almost everything!! your amazing!!!
  • Spartan11794 - September 7, 2010 2:33 a.m.

    You guys didn't reference local nuzlocke champ Cel, how could you!!??
  • BoltActionRevolver - September 7, 2010 2:08 a.m.

    @Kaltoria I'm not sure if your in the states or not, but in the US, Monday is a government holiday. They are not in the office, and as such, are actually recording on Friday, or even sooner. Anything revealed on the weekend isn't known to them yet
  • marioman50 - September 7, 2010 1:41 a.m.

    Thanks for introducing me to Nuzlocke Comics. Very Cute.
  • Kaltoria - September 7, 2010 1:37 a.m.

    It won't link, but there on serebii as you can see.

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