Disgruntled Gears of War 2 player sends his disc back to Epic in pieces

Cliff Bleszinski posted this picture of a broken Gears of War 2 disc on his Twitter account. But what in the world could possess a gamer to snap his copy of Gears of War 2 in half and post the pieces back to Epic Games? There are a couple of clues...

Above: Either this is an insane coincidence, or that's a joke address. Microsoft won't be taking any chances

Yes, it seems that Marcus Fenix himself has had enough of lag in Gears of War 2 and finally snapped. It's debatable exactly how fast an internet connection he could have expected living in 'Laggy Lane, Lagsville, Florida' so maybe he's being a bit hard on Epic by blaming them.

That said, Cliffy B has responded on Twitter saying that he totally agrees that lag sucks and that we can expect something very soon on this issue. It's either a new online patch or simply 'wait for Gears of War 3'.

But how bad is the lag in Gears 2 online? Sure, it had its problems at launch and the game has been well known for its various glitches and exploits in multiplayer, but the majority of those are patched now. But if Cliffy B says there's a problem, then surely there's a problem. That said, there seems to be a practical reason for the disc being snapped in half that points to logic rather than rage:

That disc was never going to fit in that envelope.

Are you still playing Gears 2 online? Got any lag issues? Let us know in the comments

23 Sep, 2010

Source: Twitter




  • mastereper - September 24, 2010 3 a.m.

    I love Games Radar this article was 90xs funnier with their witty comments, lmao keep up the great work guys.
  • RebornKusabi - September 23, 2010 10:21 p.m.

    As much as I absolutely wanted to get into Gears of Wars multi-player, the lag in this game compared to other online games was absolutely embarrassing and god-****ing damn-awful!
  • g4m3rk1dd - September 23, 2010 9:06 p.m.

    ive never had any lag with this game except when the host was lagging...but isnt that how all games are? if you arent lagging due to your own interwebz then its the hosts problem (not to mention the time it takes to press the button you mean to press and the time taken for the command to go through...whos to say that MAYBE he just sucked at the game?)... cant be mad at the game developers for that... with that said you CAN be mad at them for doing stupid things with the online portion of the games that they put out...damn host advantage bs...
  • batmanboy11 - September 23, 2010 8:11 p.m.

    That guy just wasted 60 bucks...
  • kingsmikefan - September 23, 2010 7:54 p.m.

    Gamesradar, don't lie to us. Everybody knows how terribly laggy the game is. A lot of people I know sold it or stopped playing the mutliplayer eventually. I got rid of it in early 2010 because they still didn't fix the lag.
  • Jacko415 - September 23, 2010 6:40 p.m.

    I dont know why but Gears 2's lag was and mistakes were a lot bigger than in the 1st one. i still prefer the 1st ones multiplayer over the sequel.
  • IceHawk79 - September 23, 2010 6:03 p.m.

    Im doing this to my World of Warcraft cds and sending them to blizzard because I never got into the Cataclysm Beta!
  • boondocks50 - September 23, 2010 5:24 p.m.

    im doing this with my modern warefare 2 disc
  • slowdrum13 - September 23, 2010 5:14 p.m.

    That guy needs to grow up. He's only hurting himself by destroying his own property. Does he really think epic cares? And stop beiong so spoiled. You can't expect instantanious actions, that signal is traveling all around the world, so a bit of lag of a few milliseconds is expected. What a spoiled brat.
  • MrTea - September 23, 2010 5 p.m.

    The lag is kind of an issue. The biggest issue now, living in Costa Rica is that the bastards isolated and we can't play from anyone in the US. This sucks, I never find any game. This is a stupid measure to cover their mistakes. No other game has done this and doesn't need to. I just hope they make a good multiplayer game for the third one.
  • batman5273 - September 23, 2010 4:56 p.m.

    Let me start by saying that I love Gears of War. I was a PS2 fanboy and was going to have my wife get me a PS3 for Xmas. But then I saw the "Mad World" commercial. That song and the graphics made my jaw drop. And since the PS3 was hard to get and it was brand new, I changed my mind and had my wife get me the Xbox360. Since Dec of 06 I have been playing Gears 1 and 2 non stop. I may take time to get achievements in other games, but I always go back to Gears. I do not enjoy Halo or COD. Gears is to Chess what Halo/COD is to checkers. With that being said... Let's face it, all video games have lag. It doesn't matter how much you spend on your high speed internet. your speed gets thrown out the window by someone who is on the other side of the world or is sharing internet at college or at home with the whole family. with that being said. Gears of War main problems is host advantage. Meaning that since there is no dedicated servers, One person's Xbox takes on the other 9 connections in order to run the game. That one person is the Host. In Gears Host advantage is like having another 4 players on your team. Their weapons are a lot stronger and they are wearing more armor. Now it doesn't change the stats but what it does is improve the hit detection. If host is given to someone with horrible internet that one person will be a beast in the game. In Gears 1 only one had the host advantage, in Gears 2 everyone on the Host team gets the advantage. Gears also did not run a program to do a quick check of of people's internet to select host or do host migration if the host quit or was loosing packets. Gears 2 has had lag issues since day one. If you were not host you were getting your asses handed to you. And aiming was horrible. Gears 1 allowed you to shoot your shot gun from the hip. Gears 2, if you were not host the bullets would literaly go to the ground. I do not care what anyone says, But Gears is a shot gun game! the other weapons are there for support of the team, But the guys who get all the points and all the kills are the ones who get there hands bloody by being in the front lines with their gnasher shotgun. And if you were getting your ass handed to you, you received a 1500 point penalty for leaving the game. this turned a lot of players off to the game. And host wasn't given to anyone in the room, it was only given to the Party Leaders, so it was a 50/50 shot you got host. but if the other leader was cheating then it was 0% likely you would. And they game told you that you was host. You would see a double flash twice at countdown. Also when the round was over, The host was unable to melee his weapon. Because of the power of host, people would cheat to get it. They would either use a "lag switch" or simply pull their ethernet cord from the back of the xbox. Some people would even use a computer or laptop to bridge connection to the game and use a program to steal people's IP Addresses. Gears2 went through 6 Title Updates to try to combat these things. They were for hit detection, better host selection, glitches, and other exploits. The final patch is the one that I liked. They started "Social" rooms. it was very similar to "Player" matches in Gears1.If you got tired of the cheating and randomness of the ranked matches, you could just Create a Social Room. It allowed a team to run the room, keep host and rotate through the maps. if no one wanted to join, you would just play bots. You also received your points as if it was a ranked match. It also allowed people to come and go as they please. If they liked your connection they would stay if they didn't they could leave and they would not receive a penalty if they left. What Gears 3 needs is the following: 1)Dedicated servers! completely take away host advantage. 2)Beta test. See whats going on before they go gold on their game. 3)Region filtering. 4)No Ranks or Achievements for ranks! There were no ranks in Gears1, but as soon as I saw ranks in Gears2, people cheated their asses off to get their "Wings" (another term for 100 rank which there is also an achievement for) 5)Ability to see what your connection to the other players is before the match starts and allow you to decide if you want to stay or go without a penalty. 6)Host migration. When the connection was actually good to the host and your team was winning. the host would simply quit. So what was going on was you got a 1500 point penalty for leaving in a bad connection, or all the points you earned were lost because the host was losing or had a bad Kill/Death ratio. so if you were not host, you potentially be double screwed. Host migration allows the host to drop and the netcode would allow someone else be take on the mantle. So as a veteran GOW player, I have seen the game grow and change. But i can admit the game is no fun for noobs. It is a challenge. But its more frustrating when the internet is also the invisible enemy on the field.
  • Larinah - September 23, 2010 4:56 p.m.

    I actually never had a bit of trouble with lag. This is just something I'm throwing out there but maybe it's because I live so close to their HQ(they're in Cary, NC I'm in Gastonia, NC. 'bout a 2-3 hour drive.) I've never even gotten close to snapping the disk. The only game I ever came close to doing that with was probably Dark Cloud 2.
  • Hellhog - September 23, 2010 4:29 p.m.

    I've played a lot and I mean a lot of Gears 1 and Gears 2. (enough that I have 100% gamerscore in both). The problem is Host advantage and bullet delay due to lag is very bad. Shotgun battle inconsistancies and where to aim the sniper for the headshot gets really annoying. Gears 1 was bad but I hung in there, Clif even said in an interview that the problem was fixed for Gears 2. However, that was not true and quite the opposite as it is worse. I currently don't have plans to get Gears 3 until after I hear about the multiplayer from friends and try it at one of their places. The gameplay seems like most of the same old same old (with the exception of the beastly looking Beast Mode). Otherwise, I don't understand how this game is so well liked (even by myself) when it is one of the buggiest, glitchiest, inconsistent, and laggiest AAA titles I've ever seen.
  • batman5273 - September 23, 2010 4 p.m.

    My Friends and I felt like doing that on numerous occasions.
  • shaneobi - September 23, 2010 3:48 p.m.

    I've never really encountered much lag, except for when some people were using a lag switch, and quite obviously were. What gets me is that it says stuff about reading players levels, in a team of 20 somethings we pulled a group of people where 4 were highest rank and the last had started ranking on another account after reaching the highest rank. It would be nice if matchmaking actually put you against people of a similar rank rather than those 3 or 4 times it.
  • ihopethisisnotantistasblood - September 23, 2010 3:05 p.m.

    aaaaAAAAA i hate this add people.. go to ign please
  • Lionzest7 - September 23, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    Gears 2 is great, but it has too much host advantage, and sometimes teleporting lag. If you're not willing to bite down eat it, then it's great.
  • Clovin64 - September 23, 2010 1:41 p.m.

    I'm came very close to snapping discs in half and sending them back to the developers with very angry, sweary letters included. Being an angry gamer is fun!b :P
  • skyline19 - September 23, 2010 11:39 a.m.

    lmao, what a legend! I've come close to doing the same thing on other games, pro evo being the main one.
  • presc1ence - September 23, 2010 11:22 a.m.

    Thats not news, i believe most of us did this about a month after release. When we realised they had ruined the shotgun. C,mon gears3 don't be smackdown smoke, punch fest!please!

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