BioWare says no Shepard in Mass Effect 4

BioWare has been pretty forthcoming about the sci-fi RPG shooter series not ending with Mass Effect 3, but has been cagey on any other details. Now we know we're in for a whole new context and characters in the next game thanks to an interview with VG247.

"There is one thing we are absolutely sure of--there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over," BioWare Montreal producer Fabrice Condominas said. The series' rich setting gives the team worlds of possibilities to pursue, Condominas said, and at this point he's not even sure what time frame the game will occur in.

"So first, we don’t want to make 'Shepard 2,' or Mass Effect 4 with like, 'oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe,'" Condominas said. "So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest."

What sort of context would you want from the next Mass Effect game, knowing that Shepard-Commander is out of the picture (at least as a main character)? Loose cannon C-Sec officer who can't help but love an Asari consort with a heart of gold? One of those praying mantis things that takes care of the Citadel? Sarcastically questioning: Elkor?




  • Mattossie - November 9, 2012 8:24 p.m.

    I think in Mass Effect 4 you should play as a Raloi. The new avian race that just joined the galactic community. When the reapers invaded the Raloi fled in an attempt to fool the reapers into thinking they were not space-faring. You would play as a young Raloi after they have developed a resistance to the H7N7 virus. You would go back to the citadel and defend your race's actions during the reaper war. You would then have to prove your loyalty to the council and the citadel. You would not have a very high tech ship if you could even afford one at all. The Raloi government would not be able to support you very much because they are rebuilding after destroying all they satellites in an attempt show the reapers that you weren't space-faring. You would also not have the best weapons, armor, or equipment available. You would almost always be outgunned in missions. You would not have many squad members that would come around with you because of the poor conditions. Many of the races will not cooperate with you either because of your race's actions during the reaper invasion or because of simply not knowing much about your race. It would be a tough journey but in the end you would finally gain respect from the citadel species. This is how I think Bioware could change up the view of the mass effect universe. It would show a completely different side that we may have only caught glimpses of during Shepard's journeys. It would be more in the slums; even worse slums than on omega. This is what I would really like to see in the new Mass Effect 4. Though I know the likelihood of seeing a product like this is poor; I will still hope.
  • brents742 - October 21, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    Anderson was apparently quite the bad*** in his day during the First Contact War. That would be fun to play through. But more importantly!! - BioWare needs to be focusing on getting me my KoTOR 3. The demand for that is much higher than any Mass Effect 4 will ever be.
  • t_skwerl - October 20, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    I'd have thought this was a no brainer after the ending(s). Spoilers! Shep's either buried in rubble, an A.I. God/dess or dispersed every molecule of him/her self across the entire universe. They'd tick off two thirds of the fanbase if the sequel went with a canon ending and rolled with Shep again. "So, I guess my ending choice didn't matter either!" I am interested to see where they go with this.
  • 7-D - October 20, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    Uh-oh. Beware of disgruntled mass effect fans with heaving petitions, demanding not only that shepard appears in the game, but that he sports a french-crop haircut and a pair of lacost loafers. Oh and that the ending mimics the opera, wagner's ring cycle at 18 hours long (singing included).
  • thomas-morrisroe - October 19, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    If it takes place after ME3 I hope they at least mention Shepard and not just completely re-write him/her out of history
  • jackthemenace - October 19, 2012 1:44 p.m.

    I'm almost predicting an Old Republic-style Mass Effect MMO. I hope it's not, but I do hope the next one has some elements of it- It'd nice to be able to choose your race as well, rather than just your specialisation, for your character. Origin stories like the ones you choose from in ME1 would be good too, but ones that are maybe unique to each species, and that you get to play through a la Dragon Age would be pretty sweet as well, especially if they gave your character some further form of customisation over others.
  • zombi3grim - October 19, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    Oh god no. No MMO aspects at all.
  • GoldenEagle1476 - October 19, 2012 12:24 p.m.

    I'd love the game to be set during the Rachni Wars or the Krogan Rebellions.
  • crazor89 - October 19, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    That would be great, especially if you get to play as a bad-ass Krogan! I really hope the do something that explores the history, kind of like a prequel but not necessarily even related to the Shephard trilogy. Bioware have built this awesome universe and back story, so I can't wait to see what they do with it next.
  • FoxdenRacing - October 19, 2012 11:50 a.m.

    They have a huge, rich universe there. Explore it. Just off the top of my head, they could easily explore the Human/Turian war. If you have to be an epic story, maybe you're the person responsible for bringing it to an end.
  • Acerlux - October 19, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    I'd like to see an origins type thing with multiple race choices. Or better yet a Blasto game. Co-op with Bubbin, badassfully.
  • Edias - October 19, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    I figured the no Shepard thing was obvious, but I guess that some people needed it stated. Based off of the end of the last game, and the fact that it was the end of the trilogy, there should have been no question that Shepard would play little to no part in the next game. He will likely be mentioned at some point, and you'll probably see some of the consequences for his actions, but that will be about it. The series is called Mass Effect not Commander Shepard's Fantabulous Journey.
  • DeliciousPie - October 19, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Spectre operative and make it a game based more around stealth and espionage, perhaps. The Paragon and Renegade bars become based around how specifically you achieved your objective. Paragon goes up if you use peaceful coercion and avoided using any lethal tools. Renegade goes up if you use intimidation and threats, and assassinate everyone. You get to choose between races, obviously. Salarian, Human, Turian, Drell, or Asari. Not sure how level ups would work. Maybe skill trees based around specific stealth, espionage, and coercion elements. But now this is sounding like Deus Ex Human Revolution somewhat, so perhaps I'm a simple rip off artist.
  • FOZ - October 19, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    Before I finished reading that post, I was going to say "They have that, it's called Deus Ex." But in Deus Ex people react to how lethal or nonlethal you are with dialogue and rewards rather than a good/ bad meter.
  • tehtimeisnow - October 19, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    just let mast effect die alredy the series is just abuot dead. it died after the ferst one when they screwd us xobx fanboys over by makeing it also on ps3. i want my money back this games deserv to b only on xobx
  • Viron - October 19, 2012 9:59 a.m.

    Why even call it ME4 then? Give it a dumb subtitle like all the other games are to distract from how many sequels there have been. Not that the title really matters, as long as the story is good and there is character customization I'll find some measure of enjoyment.
  • BladedFalcon - October 19, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    Well that's a no brainer. Anyway, if they are gonna try something different with the protagonist, then I'd really appreciate if he wasn't a human. Make him/her a Turian, or a drell. Also, maybe it would be cool if they veered waay from the Third Person shooter mechanics, and tried something s bit more like an actual RPG? Perhaps make it a powerful biotic who has to rely mainly on their powers to attack, and not so much guns.
  • Viron - October 19, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    Seeing as ME tries to be hard Sci-fi I doubt that they'll take out the third person shooter mechanics, because in world with guns you will always have to take cover. Otherwise you'd have to be one of those stupidly powerful biotics who has the power to ignore damage when it's convenient to the plot. Besides your post seems to imply that you cannot have an RPG with third person shooter mechanics. Which is simply not true. Now that doesn't mean it fits into the many definitions for "RPG" that seem to keep springing up.
  • FOZ - October 19, 2012 11:11 a.m.

    A tactical game, then? Where you move around a team of soldiers with different, customizable specialties, and they can take cover? There haven't been any big, tactical sci-fi games like that recently, right?

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