Battlefield 3 moving away from Bad Company series, says DICE

It's hard to discuss Battlefield 3 without talking about conflict. That's only fitting, of course, for a game which aims to realistically depict war in a contemporary context – but whether the conflict in question revolves around armed struggles for territory or commercial wars of words between FPS publishers, the game's executive producer, DICE's Patrick Bach, is reluctant to be drawn in. “We are Swedes,” says Bach: “We have a tendency to not take sides. I think that reflects in our games.” In fact, the one series he's willing to pit BF3 against is, ironically enough, DICE’s own work: the Bad Company titles that have sustained players while they await Battlefield 3.

“We’re throwing away everything that has to do with the tone of the Bad Company series,” Bach tells Edge: those spinoffs' humor and outlandishness will be jettisoned in favor of “creating a completely new tone and narrative based on the more authentic focus we had of Battlefield 2.”

“Controversy is probably a good marketing tool,” Bach muses, “but we make games. Our goal isn’t to make controversy. I don’t want people to feel bad playing our game. Our goal is to create a fun, entertaining experience.” To that end, he's at pains to draw the distinction between authenticity and fact. While the game's conflict is entirely fictional – “Russians versus Americans [is] like Red versus Blue – we try not to depict the reasons for the war, because then it can end up in a very bad place” – the design of weaponry, motion capture and mission structures have been guided by Bravo Two Zero author and SAS veteran Andy McNab, ensuring the accurate details of “the fantasy that we want people to live through our game.”

Bach's taciturn stance echoes comments he's made recently which attempt to distance DICE from the heated tone of EA's anti-Modern Warfare rhetoric: he recently argued that his game and MW3 weren't even “playing at the same sport.”

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  • derrek - November 11, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Well personally DICE made some easy money, BF3 is cool but honestly I feel like it's a combination between BFBC2 AND Call Of Duty MW Series whether people and DICE Software believes it or not, DICE copied COD MW SERIES in a lot of ways. Trying keep up with sales and competition with score display design n pop up, side map layout n design (u barely can read the map it damn near blends in with background by the way it even looks like CODMW side map) just not as bright, kit & appearance customizations and just not as much ad-ons & weapons. The biggest difference between the two is BF & BFBC doesn't have as many hicks, hillbillies, ONLINE RACIST Small Penis no girlfriend GANGSTA'S that hide behind their mom's, dad's, or grandma's internet service. For COD MW it needs an objective besides sit, spin, shoot and kill and of coarse steal a flag. By the the way I have them all and overall BFBC's is better than CODMW's except graphically, yes CODMW 3 is clean. MOH by far my favorite fps, DICE you guys fucked up! Lets hope and prey Rebellion doesn't fuck up the great n classic shooter "Sniper Elite".
  • rafael-vazquez - August 23, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    I really do hope someday they make BFBC3. I really liked the series, and well I think they should at least finish the story with BC3 and then move on to BF4 or something. I am looking forward to BF3 even if its on Console it's gonna be awesome! =]
  • lilyeister - July 6, 2011 9:06 p.m.

    awesome, BF2 had great atmosphere and tension, i thought some of that was lost in the over-the-top BC games
  • ParagonT - July 6, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    I have a feeling this game is too hyped. I've seen the graphics but there's so many "realistic" shooters out there, this will just be another. Has anyone notices the similarity to Crysis 2 by the way? But I love me some Battlefield just as much as the next guy, but this game looks pretty hyped. Nothing really new. Aim, Shoot, next rank, new guns, max out, Bizaro CoD.
  • AxiamWolfe - July 6, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    @Hobogonigal Wait, in what way were the Bad Company maps MORE open than those in the main series?
  • Hobogonigal - July 6, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Agree with taokaka, I definitely enjoyed the wide open spaces of the Bad Company series more so I hope that they don't make the levels too linear... Multiplayer should be good though...
  • RicePuddingUK - July 6, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    Nice to hear, BF:BC I enjoyed but storyline wise there wasn't much to offer, especially the 2nd one, looking forward to a gritty mature campaign. If Andy McNab is helping the DICE team I hope the British Armed Forces make an appearance in this game, army or SAS, I don't mind.
  • taokaka - July 6, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    I'm kind of disappointed. I liked the Bad Company games more than the main series :(
  • JangoFettN7 - July 6, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    Also Battlefield 3 looks amazing, cant wait for the beta!
  • JangoFettN7 - July 6, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    @Yarnboy I think they tend to use american soldiers because thats where one of the main markets to sell the game (also UK). Same thing with using new york with sandbox games, its a recognizable landmark. I do wish they would use different stuff though... even if it makes the suits at the game publishers a bit nervous. What better way to set a game apart then to use a different faction.
  • Yarnboy - July 6, 2011 7:26 a.m.

    Or they could just not use Americans as protagonists? What if they just used the Polish, German, Japanese or Ethiopian army as their heroes? About every war game is about American patriotism, courage and stuff, Europe gets blown to bits, and Russia/China/Germany invades everything else. It's getting a bit boring, just like using New York as a basis for sandboxgames.
  • mattdark - July 6, 2011 6:13 a.m.

    Isnt this old news already? Im pretty sure someone from DICE already spoke out about how this was going to be a step back from the bad company series, in order to finally make a full-blown sequal to the main series. Pretty sure this was said around the same time as the release of the 12 minute demonstration
  • oni - July 6, 2011 4:38 a.m.

    I like BC2 mp and tech. The singleplayer story, not so much. But I'm not against BC2. Maybe DICE will treat BC2 like a filler like Activision and Black Ops. Battlefield 3 this year, Bad Company 3 next year, Battlefield 4 the year after and so forth.
  • RedOutlive10 - July 6, 2011 4:33 a.m.

    @D0CCON Honestly, it's about the lack of originality. Why don't developers create fictional countries and conflicts? It's definitely the best way to avoid any kind of political BS while still talking about the war subject... Also gives much more freedom to design unique weapons and what not in the game.
  • Yeager1122 - July 6, 2011 3:42 a.m.

    Bad companys tone doesnt need to be in Battfeild never thought it was going to be anyway i mean they are two seperate games even if they are made by the same developer.
  • D0CCON - July 6, 2011 3:28 a.m.

    @Markstone Or they could be really realistic and use the Taliban. I know they don't want controversy, but I'm waiting for a Six Days in Falluja that doesn't get canceled.
  • SonicX_89 - July 6, 2011 3:23 a.m.

    I hope this doesn't mean they are abandoning Bad Company altogether. Both of those games were great, especially BC2, and the reason why I'm looking forward to Battlefield 3.
  • AirickG - July 6, 2011 3:13 a.m.

    aww, I liked the obsession with gold in the first Bad Company... then I had a reason to like it other than the "Its not COD" reasoning...
  • Markstone - July 6, 2011 2:54 a.m.

    @D0CCON: The reason for Russia being a enemy in many military games is it and China are really the only modern military powers that could stand a chance in fighting a conventional war against the U.S. military, and as the guy said they want a realistic tone so they chose a plausible enemy to allow for the grand cinematic warfare of a major conflict.
  • D0CCON - July 6, 2011 2:41 a.m.

    Do Russians really need to be the bad guys for every modern game? The Cold War ended awhile ago.

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