• gimlimacguyver - June 17, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    im siding with Jon! foa several reasons :D but i'll just list three 1) CoD is freakishly boring, how anybody can still play it, even online is beyond me 2) i've been waiting too freaking long to see some whiney little emo/chav/whatever gripe about how its not up to thier expectations i mean, sure itss taken a helluvva long time, but thats life, shit happens... but it was worth the wait (especially for a balls of steel edition) 3) HATERS GONNA HATE..... nuff said
  • HowdyCowboyCheesesBurger0911 - June 17, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    Some of the things reviewers wrote about this were outrageous, its not a great game but it doesn't deserve the F 1UP gave it or the 3/10 gamespot gave it, they were just being dicks.
  • spawny0908 - June 17, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    I wasn't and I'm still not going to buy this (never been a fan). But from what I've seen a 6 or 7 seems fair.
  • 510BrotherPanda - June 17, 2011 8:29 p.m.

    I don't really have an opinion either way about it. I'm not a fan of man-type shooters in general. But Jon St. John's TalkRadar UK plugs in the most recent episode (#93) were still super-cool/nice of him to do.
  • bkoz117 - June 17, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    With regards to customers liking DNF and critics panning it, the general public will buy anything that's marketed to them in the right way. We have critics (who are trained and experienced so we don't need to be) so that we can find the best stuff without buying every game. Keeps game makers on their toes to actually make good games rather than just leach off the nostalgia that games they didn't even make have produced. Good on Jon St. John for being passionate about his project, awesome voice as well.
  • meh - June 17, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    I think reviewers are being a little harsh, but it's justified. This was built up to be the most ass kicking, shit in your mouth, orgasmic explosion of manhood and awesomeness, and it's not. 12 years was too much time, as the hype increases, so does expectation. It came out, and wasn't what we thought it would be. That's it.
  • DOHBOY - June 17, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    I WANT MY MONEY BACK 2K GAMES AND 3D REALMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the jokes in the game is not enough for me to like this game!!!!!!!!!GAME SUX MON
  • HaVoK308 - June 17, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    I'm willing to bet that most gamers who picked up DNF are not too happy with their purchase. Sure some people will never admit they made a bad purchasing decision and can find a pretty rose in a pile of shit if they look hard enough. People see what they want to see. I was excited for the game. I pre-ordered it early and anxiously awaited the demo. After playing through the demo I was shocked at how bad it was. I found it insulting that the developers would try to sell me on something so awful. I immediately canceled my pre-order and never looked back.
  • BrunDeign - June 17, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    I can see where Jon is coming from. You really can't put Duke Nukem in the same category as Soap and Captain Price. Their respective games are completely different in tone and style. I still think Duek Nukem Forever looks boring in terms of gameplay but still.
  • TheGuy0526 - June 17, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    Dude, its not a shit stain mark for any franchise. If you're looking for top of the line action and game mechanics, then this game isn't for you. Go play CoD or Battlefield. Anybody who buys this game is looking for a laugh, since obviously thats what the game is all about. Its supposed to be crude, abnoxious, and funny. So what if it didn't match up with the top of the line games comin out nowadays? That wasn't the point. So stop whining and realize that this isn't a hardcore game; its just supposed to be fun. If you've got a problem with that, don't buy it and shut up. It makes all of our lives easier.
  • taterboob - June 17, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    "With sales data, It seems like *customers* love Duke. I guess sometimes we want greasy hamburgers instead of caviar...” I can't stand arguments like this, for games or movies. Initial sales numbers have nothing to do with the perceived quality of the title. Strong day one sales were based entirely on hype over Duke's return and nostalgia, not because the game was good. When review scores are that near unanimous in the negative, you have to kind of pull your head out of the sand a little bit and admit that the game wasn't as good as it could have been
  • PaulieWaulie - June 17, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    Maybe if it was a £10 download title people wouldn't feel as insulted, although I'd still feel insulted that they put a shit stain mark on a franchise that is such a fond memory of my youth. Also if they didn't care about review scores why did they enforce such a dubious review embargo? If a game doesn't have a review at the latest the day before release any where then you know it's a turd on a disc.
  • ParagonT - June 17, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    Okay, Duke has gotten plenty of flak from reviewers which is above all else a bit harsh. But a reviewer's job is to be a critic, whether it's harsh or not. It is by far very unprofessional as a game developer/previous staff member to try and criticize reviews criticism. Anybody can be a reviewer, it doesn't take a high school diploma even. But a developer is different. I do not blame the developers for it's flop, people wanted a Duke Nukem game that brought nostalgia while keeping to the core audience. They did just that, they kept it a true Duke Nuken game, but consumers didn't think it was "new/ground breaking enough." This is because consumers doesn't even know what they want at times. The developers were not only at fault with their vision and development, but a victim of the consumers expectations in this time.
  • Evil_AppleJuice - June 17, 2011 7:27 p.m.

    I personally understand why others complain about this game, but as I've been going through it on hard, it's not a 49/100. After getting Duke Nukem 3D for my Iphone and re-living one of his great games, I was reminded that I'm not supposed to play DNF like other games. Its balls out, its hard as hell, and its really fun. It's about putting yourself in the mentality that you are playing as Duke, about laughing at his jokes, never letting go of the trigger, and squashing mini pigcops. Hands down, a good solid game with the right mentality.
  • TheDigitalG - June 17, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    @RedOutlive10, I think his point was comparing two obviously different games is a dumb thing to do, not the quality. As an example, you wouldn't compare Portal 2 with Bejewelled. Sure, they're both puzzle games, but they're nothing alike gameplay-wise.
  • TheDigitalG - June 17, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    @Larinah, go to the pause menu and increase Dukes voice in the sound. I had the same problem :)
  • Larinah - June 17, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    I side with Jon. The game is a blast, and the achievements are, for me personally, what makes the campaign replayable. I didn't notice any bad problems with textures in my already 3 playthroughs, though I was bothered by the sound of gunfire stamping out the sound of Duke's voice. I missed a bunch of epic 1-liners because if I stopped shooting, I stopped living. I never found the game boring, and it made me think outside the box many times to get through. I would personally give it an 8. Not GotY material, but definitely a must-play for Duke fans.
  • RedOutlive10 - June 17, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    If you don't want to be compared to the other games of the generation, don't have the same price, because this means you want to be held in the same standards as every other product with the same value. Reviews might have been harsh, but hey you're the one asking 60 bucks for it. Might as well lay in the bed you've made.
  • batman5273 - June 17, 2011 6:56 p.m.

    I agree with Mikel!
  • ChrisCultista - June 17, 2011 6:44 p.m.

    @db JESUS! "pre0ordered for over a decade." I just thought about that statement and it sploded my mind. So what im getting out of the situation is. 1. DNF was a crappy nostalgia grab. 2. Voice actor defends his game. (Which I respect) And a PR guy threatens that reviews wont have to review the shitter games from 2k. (Which is just plain lulzy) 3. Uses a argument that what the people want is what is best. Which is just stupid because the people want Double Quarter Pounders with Cheese and a 54 ounce coke and SPAM, also lard. And that shit is pure heart attack.

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