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  • Oujisama - November 13, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    Really? Heat issues again? Can we just develop new technology when we're sure it's stable?
  • Shigeruken - November 13, 2013 10:26 p.m.

    Nobody said the heat was an issue, just that the system got hot. That's just how computers work, a cpu has a normal operating temperature of 40-80 degrees celcius. Remember that this is an integrated solution, so it's going to run hotter than a regular cpu and dedicated gpu setup. Think of it this way, the 360 failed because it had poor heat dissipation and cheap solder, at least we know that the PS4's heat is leaving the case.
  • winner2 - November 13, 2013 6:23 p.m.

    I won't be buying one, at least not till a big ass price cut and a super awesome library of exclusive stuff. I think it's gonna be a wii u and my pc for me this gen. At least until the ps4 or xbone gets a game that I MUST have. And that would have to be a console exclusive elder scrolls or something, and that will never happen.
  • TurkeyOnRye - November 13, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    The fact that these things are still blowing out such massive amounts of heat fill me with dread. I want next-gen consoles... but I do not want to deal with heat-related errors all over again. This may be a wait and see type thing.
  • scott-cornish - November 13, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    All i see is everyone getting butthurt over the definition of a word. Honestly does it really matter I thought videogames were about having fun. So what if the Wii U is or isn't "next gen" I own one and a 3DS. Last console generation I owned a 360 and a Wii and instead of going next gen straight away I'm going to get a ps3 once you tie yourself down to one company you can miss out on great exclusive games of that generation. So rater than rushing off into the future of gaming chill out awhile and enjoy whats already here.
  • Johnnyboy101253 - November 15, 2013 2:38 a.m.

    Lucky! I have seen a Wii U and it looks amazing, it's innovated and has led to some things they've done with the PS4 (in my opinion). I don't think Nintendo is even trying to play on the same level as Microsoft and Sony anymore, they're just giving new technologies that awe and amaze people. I've owned all of the "current generation" considering Wii U as next that is. Hopefully next gen pulls out even more amazement than what they already have =D I don't want to rush into the next gens, not with their current memories and install requirements @.@ 50 GB per game MUST INSTALLS. Harsh, even harsher when you look at the 500 GB HDD...not enough man. Enjoy this last gen a little longer, the next gen can wait.
  • larkan - November 13, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    I'm passing. Early adopters usually pay more, and deal with the broken shit first. AMD whored themselves out so low to get these contracts, I have a feeling they'll be breaking left and right. I think I'll wait a few years until they get the technology correct, and cheaper. They should also be offering one cheaper without a hard drive like they're doing on the PS3 right now. I'd rather put my own hard drive in than their shitty, slow, small hard drive.
  • GoldenEagle1476 - November 13, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    It looks good, but I still don't see a reason to run out and by one; not until better games come out, at least.
  • Johnnyboy101253 - November 13, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    I think something you should mention in this review is the 3 year warranty you can now pay like 40-90 dollars for (40 for technical, 50 for accidental, 90 to make sure you have a console for the next 3 years). I think 3 years is more than long enough for this console to get out almost all of the kinks, and if it does melt discs like the PS3 did then you can get a new one and Sony will know about it and fix it sooner than later =D I want one T.T
  • Feloniousmax - November 21, 2013 12:58 a.m.

    The extended warranty costs $49.99, for a $10 premium, they will add in accident coverage, making it cost $59.99. You do not need to purchase both.
  • Subgenre - November 13, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    There's no reason to buy a console day 1. Very rarely does a console every have anything spectacular available for it at launch, and in this day of age of super-high tech consoles chances are something is going to be wrong with early models. IMO its better to wait about a year for a price drop and for the console to actually have a library worth looking at. Also, I don't get all of the Wii U hate. I haven't purchased one myself yet (although that's going to change with my next paycheck) but everyone I know who has one fucking loves it. Oh well, I'm sure that once next-next-gen is upon us everyone will look back on the Wii U and will be astonished that it got so much hate.
  • Johnnyboy101253 - November 13, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    I don't think it's a hate thing towards the Wii U. I personally love all of Nintendo's consoles myself. It's more of a late thing...they are well behind in the generations now, but isn't it better to be behind than to be extremely flawed? With what PS4 is doing here (namely remote play) any serious gamer will overlook the Wii U, which may cause the price to drop substantially to all other gamers (cheaper legend of Zelda games! yay!) Honestly though, Wii U is just not to be compared to PS4 and Xbox One, in the current gen/last gen it had caught up (a little late to the party) but when it comes to next gen, it is behind again...but to anyone whom loves any Nintendo only games, who cares how far behind it is? We don't need Link to be able to tell you about what's going on, they've never talked and really don't need to. Same case with Mario and so many other Nintendo only characters. I have never heard hate to the Wii U, just that it's a party system, not a gaming system...and really, who has a problem with that? MARIO PARTY!!!!!!
  • MrJP - November 14, 2013 11:24 a.m.

    I don't own a Wii U yet, but I really hope it takes off. For me, the graphics of the WiiU are more than capable enough - as are current ps3 and 360 graphics. The only worry is that good games will use the Xbone as the ground level and WiiU will miss out on amazing games as a result of not being able to handle them. Then again, Nintendo doesn't get large enough 3rd party support nowadays for me to own just a Ninty console, so I guess that doesn't matter. It's a shame though, as I was able to play cross platform games on Gamecube and felt like it had just enough 3rd party to make it an awesome one stop machine. Since owning a 360 it would be hard to go back to just a Nintendo console after experiencing the sheer wealth and number of games available on MS and Sony's consoles.
  • Johnnyboy101253 - November 15, 2013 2:32 a.m.

    Agreed, could you live without all of the Nintendo only titles? Nintendo almost lost everything when Bungie tried to make a Legend of Zelda on the Xbox 360. That would have ended them quickly, because if Link and Mario get onto the "Monster Systems" so to speak, then Nintendo would become forgotten quickly, even though it is thanks to Nintendo that Sony and Microsoft are where they are technology wise. Neither of them would have ever thought of the Eye or Kinect without Nintendo Wii's Sensor Bar. Sony proved it when they released their black wii controller (still cracks me up) but, all idea stealing aside, it is thanks to Nintendo that we have the amazing systems we do now. You're right about Nintendo not getting enough 3rd party support, but I believe that is mainly because the controllers are different, the type of gameplay suggested by the system is different, and the system is generally weaker compared to the systems that are coming out (Wii U coming out a little before PS4 and Xbox One for instance, same with Wii coming out a little before PS3 and Xbox 360) This has caused their systems to stay sold out for VERY LONG TIMES and yet they are looked down upon. The only reason to EVER look down upon a Nintendo system anymore is if you want to say "the graphics aren't good enough.." Nintendo hasn't ever needed graphics to win consumers, they have instead released WORKING Systems everytime (I never noticed any bugs anyways, my cousins still have a day one Wii) and they always do something innovative with their new systems. Nintendo's best games are the ones they are known for, and they are the reason that even with the Wii not comparing to the PS3 and Xbox 360 it stayed sold out for over a year (I think it was 18 months of being sold out?) and people cherished their Wii's and loved them... Sony and Microsoft have the power though, and thusly they get the games that are seen as great more often than not, call of duty, battlefield, and so many others are games that people online on PSN and XBL can state that they'd never consider playing on a Wii. Maybe things have changed since the Wii U came out, but honestly I couldn't keep up with the new systems, I never have. I know the Wii U looks amazing, sounds amazing, and is proclaimed as amazing, but that's all I know about it.
  • Feloniousmax - November 21, 2013 1:12 a.m.

    You are aware that Sony's PS2 had a little thing called the Eye Toy well before anyone even thought up the Wii. Sony's PSP did remote play with PS3 before anyone thought up the Wii U. The difference is that Nintendo mandates that their console will have the feature, Sony makes it optional, which as we've seen makes the adoption/awareness rate pretty low so that people will think of the mandated Nintendo product as innovative and original because it's there front and center and comes with the console. Microsoft seems to think Nintendo has the right idea, I guess we'll find out. I will get a Wii U when Fire Emblem/Shin MegaTen comes out, hoping they do an exclusive console for that , love my Fire Emblem 3DS.
  • CyberDude4819 - November 13, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    I had originally pre-ordered the PS4 on Amazon about 30 minutes after pre-orders became available and had been super excited ever since. Then DriveClub and Infamous Second Son got pushed back from the launch titles. I'm happy that they are wanting to make the games better so more power to them, but those are the two console only games I wanted. Otherwise the lineup of games I either don't want or I can get on my computer which is just as, if not more, powerful than a PS4 and has a 3 monitor eyefinity setup. So at this point I've canceled my pre-order and am going to wait for the console only games I actually want for the PS4.
  • Eightboll812 - November 13, 2013 5:35 p.m.

    You goofed if you cancelled an Amazon pre-order. It's almost like printing money over on Ebay. I've been watching that stuff the past few days and what people are doing is selling their pre-orders, mostly going for $570-600. And then they are just changing the shipping address so the buyer gets it on launch day without paying any shipping. That's not a monster profit, but it's close to $100 profit for those who sell at $600. I saw one guy charge $52 for the shipping even though it was free shipping via Amazon, lol. In the past, people at least had to pay real money and scrounge to get units to sell on Ebay. This year, you just had to be quick enough on Amazon to buy as many as you could. And since you don't even pay a penny until it ships and you've already gotten paid by an Ebay buyer even before that, it's almost ridiculous what people might be making with these pre-orders, with virtually zero risk or investment.
  • ArsenalFC87 - November 13, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    I think I'll have to pass for now. I purchased the PS3 a year after it was released and everything was good until it stopped reading games a year later. I paid for the replacement and it got YLOD. Again I paid for the replacement and it got YLOD again. I kept my PS3's in a well ventilated place and cleaned them about every 2 weeks. Now you guys are saying this one gets super hot so I'll wait and see what happens. I'll probably build a gaming pc instead.
  • SveedishFeesh - November 13, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    "apologies to all you Wii U supporters out there, but it’s the truth" And a passive-aggressive fuck you to you, too.
  • talleyXIV - November 13, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Which slide does it say that in?
  • MrJP - November 13, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    The first one.


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