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  • TurnBased - March 16, 2014 7:42 p.m.

    Wow, on one side, we have South Park: The Stick of Truth. It's praised for being "what it is" and that it should not be censored. Then we have articles like this that call out games like Senran Kagura and Neptunia for being "what they are". Hypocrites. Also, if you actually took the time to play Code of Princess then you should know that the games artist is female and that characters are constantly poking fun at Princess Solange's outfit. Is this still GamesRadar or FOX News?
  • ObliqueZombie - March 18, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    Did you read the article? He's talking about it ruining established franchises, and smothering budding franchises alike. And again, if you like this stuff (as Henry said) why should you care and keep playing what you want, friend. South Park is being praised for being a PARODY as well as a fun game, not because it implies or shows sexual scenes as "fan service". The whole of South Park makes fun of everything in the world, including itself, and this game is no different. Sexual pandering in anime/games/manga/whatever is just fine if it makes fun of itself or advances the plot, but not when it takes a character you love and needlessly puts them in a bikini and make the strings "accidentally fall off". That's the argument here. Can you imagine Gundam, and then all of a sudden an explosion rips off some chick's clothes in the cockpit, yet she's unharmed and the Gundam still in functional condition? It would be ludicrous, and infuriating. (For someone like me.)
  • TurnBased - March 18, 2014 7:59 p.m.

    Also, ruining established franchises? Senran Kagura, Demon Gaze etc were all developed with fan service in mind. The creator of SK openly admitted that he made the game because he wanted to see boobs in 3D. As for smothering budding franchises, it's why titles like these are niche. The niche audience that plays these games appreciate the humor and the game underneath(though I really found Neptunia repetitive). If these games were to go mainstream and appeal to everyone then they would lose that niche audience. Not every game has to sell bucketloads and companies like NIS and XSeed know this. Besides, how exactly would a game like Akibas Strip work without the fan service? It's actually the other way around. If fan service were removed, then they would be ruined. If you're that disturbed by fan service then there are still a lot of alternatives. SMT and Persona, the FF and Tales games, Etrian Odyssey, Ys, The Trails in the Sky series, even Fre Emblem(really? that bikini photo?) the list goes on. This is something that the author fails to acknowledge. The article comes off as giving the impression that ALL JRPGs are focused on fan service.
  • supergiraffe - March 16, 2014 6:24 p.m.

    You wrote a good article Henerey, couldn't agree more.
  • ironghoul - March 16, 2014 3:46 p.m.

    Really. Someone else said it better than I did, though. This editorial is basically: "Why me being ashamed is someone else's fault." It's not game companies that need to grow up, dude.
  • Sinosaur - March 18, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    That's not entirely true, the big problem I have with a lot of the fan service isn't "Oh no, sexy things how embarrassing!" it's "...well that design looks terrible and you have no clue how to even draw breasts, do you?" I'm probably not alone in thinking that a lot of the overly-skimpy outfits with absurdly sized breasts actually just look stupid.
  • LovingLife139 - March 16, 2014 3:20 p.m.

    I was highly impressed to see an article with such mature subject matter on the front page of GamesRadar, and the article did not disappoint. And a man wrote it, at that, and thus a sliver of my trust for humanity is restored. Ha. In all seriousness, I have also noticed this problem, and I vote with my wallet. I was super excited for Dragon's Crown until I saw pictures of it being released. The women are so oddly proportioned it's nauseating and not even human looking, which is...creepy, to say the least. Valhalla Knights 3 was another game I refused to purchase due to such content. I even owned the previous two games, and am looking to get rid of them as well due to the third's transgressions. I agree with you, sir. If men and women wish to look at attractive members of the opposite sex (or same, for that matter), go forth! But forcibly putting it in games is driving people away. Do they have a right to put it in their games? Absolutely. Do we have a right to put our money elsewhere? Absolutely. It's just such a shame. I have a love for JRPGs, but my selection is increasingly limited. If this continues to where JRPGs are a genre I can no longer seriously consider, so be it. But let's hope it doesn't come to that. :)
  • Huehuehue - March 16, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    The market conforms to what the consumers want. And it seems like most of the consumers who buy Japanese games are mature enough to handle cleavage, sexual jokes, and nudity without demanding for it to be removed, unlike the vocal minority of prudes and feminists that constantly criticize Japanese games they don't even play. A Western game where you spend all your time blowing people's brains out with realistic weapons, full of gore? "A-OK! I think I'll buy it for my thirteen year old son! That will keep him occupied while I watch a show with gratuitous scenes of violence, sex, and nudity, like Game of Thrones!" A Japanese game where you see a couple of 16 year old girl in a bikini, or even in their underwear? "NO! WRONG! REMOVE IMMEDIATELY! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING, I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT IT! UNBELIEVABLY SEXIST!" The hypocrisy astounds me. People from America, or any other Westernized civilization, giving Japan shit for fan service is laughable.
  • GR_HenryGilbert - March 17, 2014 11:16 p.m.

    Don't want to argue any more, but I do want to push this article to 100 comments, so I'm writing this.
  • Sinosaur - March 18, 2014 8:01 a.m.

    As a person who thinks sexual jokes are often hilarious and sexy stuff is great who used to be a massive anime nerd (and still enjoys some of it) I have to say that my problem isn't that there's a 16 year old in a bikini, it's that they've somehow managed to make breasts and skimpy clothes not sexy. Some minimal level of subtlety is much better than gigantic breasts that don't even look like part of a body. And if they actually did nude instead of outfits that are literally reaching the minimal point to not be nude, it would frequently be less stupid.
  • Kurbster - March 16, 2014 3:59 p.m.

    I hope you had a problem with the disproportionate men in Dragon's Crown, too. If not, then the feminists thanks you for being one of their mindless pawns.
  • GR_HenryGilbert - March 16, 2014 8:41 p.m.

    Firstly, http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/05-the-death-of-snkrs/falseequivalence/ Second, http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/aKga-N6NIg4/maxresdefault.jpg Does the portrayal of men and women seem equal here? Is the barbarian's body language in any way sexualized to the extent that the mermaid, monk, or spirit is?
  • Kurbster - March 16, 2014 8:49 p.m.

    The barbarian looks pretty sexualized to me, much in the way of those softcore porn novel covers that my grandma likes to read. But feel free to overlook that, since it doesn't fit in with your agenda
  • Jacko415 - March 16, 2014 11:03 p.m.

    6 male characters, one macho man (barbarian). While ALL the women are sexualized
  • Kurbster - March 16, 2014 11:10 p.m.

    The prude asked me about the barbarian only. I wish they were all balking up on steroids and shirtless....if that's what it takes to shut you feminazis up. Maybe then you'll realize that it's only progressive females and their white knight boy toys that have a problem with sexualization.
  • Kurbster - March 16, 2014 11:29 p.m.

    which is funny, because I thought progressive were at the forefront of sexual liberation .....but then I remembered they only advocate for 'oppressed' minorities
  • Jacko415 - March 17, 2014 2:42 a.m.

    Mind numbing stupidity...
  • Kurbster - March 17, 2014 7:16 a.m.

    Mind numbing liberal indoctrination....
  • Jacko415 - March 16, 2014 11:06 p.m.

    But you know, feel free to cherry pick what supports your argument while blatantly OVERLOOKING the rest of the picture.
  • Kurbster - March 16, 2014 9:06 p.m.

    or better yet, maybe go out into the world and actually talk to the average female who doesn't buy into the liberal feminist mindset. If females didn't sexually fantasies about 6-pack shirtless macho men, then Chippendales wouldn't be in business right now
  • Aguatic - March 17, 2014 5:28 a.m.

    How does the degree of sexualisation matter? Are the female characters shown to be dumber than the males? Or are they shown to be nothing more then mindless dogs? How is the exaggaration of the body on a FICTIONAL character offensive to women?
  • Huehuehue - March 17, 2014 3:40 p.m.

    Please explain how it isn't insanely hypocritical for anybody from the US, or most westernized nations, to give Japan shit for their games, when GoT, a show that objectifies the hell out of women, is the one of the most watched in the US. Despite its insane popularity I have yet to see one entertainment website/blog even mention it though. We sexualize little girls with shows like 'Toddlers and Tiaras', and teenage girls with a plethora of TV shows and movies. The way I see it, the only difference between the sexualization of girls and women in the US and in Japan is the medium by which we do it. At least Japan is open about it. The US has this strange dichotomy of puritanical prudishness in combination with an obsession with violence and the sexualization of both teenage girs and women. Why is it that the video game industry is getting all this attention from feminists like you anyways? The TV and the movie industry does it to a much greater degree. Even the music industry has a shitload of sexual crap, in the form of music videos. Why is it that almost every other entertainment medium in the US uses female sexuality to sell shit, but when the video game industry does it, THEN it's a problem? Is it because the video game industry is an easy target for you social justice warriors?

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