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iPhone dev believes 3DS is "gimmicky," NGP will be "dead on arrival"

Neil Young has some fighting words for the 3DS and Sony's forthcoming NGP. Not the legendary musician, mind you (although that would be all shades of awesome), but the head of iOS publisher ngmoco who believes any system aiming to compete with the app gaming market is either dead or dying.

“I think they are hurt; I think they're clearly hurt,” declared Young during a GDC interview with Industry Gamers, clarifying, “I think PSP is done and the new [NGP] is dead on arrival. It's really difficult to compete with an app store that has hundreds of thousands of applications and a wide range of options where the average price paid is around $1.20 and there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free applications that are really high quality. So I just don't think Sony's going to be able to compete with that.”



Young later shot down the notion that the NGP's reported ability to play PS3 quality games would be a competitive advantage over the average app, claiming the iPad and iPhone's bevy of features make up for any graphical disadvantages.

Turning his attention to Nintendo, Young admitted the 3DS' chances were slightly higher, but its success relies less on 3D technology and more on developer support, saying, “"I think Nintendo will likely be competitive. My personal opinion is that the 3D piece of the puzzle is kind of gimmicky. But Nintendo has great franchises and there are tens of millions of people who want to participate in those franchises, so that always helps... But the real question is the degree to which there's a third-party community."

To re-iterate, ngmoco is a publisher with a considerable stake in the iOS market. It also knows a thing or two about what sells, having released iOS hits like Rolando and We Farm. So while Young's comments may be biased (thousands of "high quality" free apps? We don't think so...), they're also somewhat informed. Regardless, it'll take a few years to determine whether his latest predictions have merit or if he's just stirring the pot.

[Source: Industry Gamers]

Mar 2, 2011

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  • Andyjoe - March 4, 2011 1 p.m.

    Sure, 3D may be a gimmick now, but Nintendo seems to have a talent for turning gimmicks into industry standards. Just look at motion controls, everyone saw them as a gimmick until Nintendo did something with them. Now both of their competitors are implementing them on their consoles, I for one look for the same thing to happen with 3D without glasses.
  • Rivenscry - March 3, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    Still, anything's better than getting another lighsaber app *shudders*
  • Rivenscry - March 3, 2011 3:20 p.m.

    Anyone for www.yaybuttons.com? Seriously, this guy must be the biggest idiot in the world. Btw, I think the guy that said that Mac's couldn't right-click meant that the newish ones don't have anything separating the right and left click buttons, which to me at least is really annoying and confusing.
  • Squander - March 3, 2011 4:15 a.m.

    "...and the new [NGP] is dead on arrival" - that is pure arrogance and a slap in the face for any serious gamer. This narcisstic guy might be responsible for the gaming platform but how many games has he ever developed?? Has he an understanding of what gamers want? Hell yeah I love my iPhone, but I am growing tired of playing games that either have shitty controls or feel kinda incomplete (like nearly every inclusice iOs-Rpg). He explains that being cheap + offering a broad range of apps = good!! He should do some marketing in Japan, people here (I am living in Tokyo) consider fun and quality as prime factors - although nearly second Japanese owns an iPhone I hardly see anyone playing an iPhone-Game.
  • Roboshi - March 3, 2011 1:19 a.m.

    Short story, Dev believes opposition is rubbish. In other news Cats don't seem to like dogs too much and birds are deciding that walking is "outdated".
  • Revel - March 3, 2011 1:05 a.m.

    First of all, hes a Mac-fanboys. Second, we all know what Mac-fanboys think about their competitor (I thought it only about PC, but now Sony and Nintendo, hah!)..did someone realize that Apple try to get everything? from computer, portable games, phone, music, whatever. Usually when people want to get everything, turns out nothing.
  • festerblatz82 - March 2, 2011 11:26 p.m.

    Looks like that dude is about to blow that microphone.
  • xombiesarelove - March 2, 2011 9:48 p.m.

    @sharkbot Macs can right click. Just need a two button mouse. Ooor hold down control when clicking does the same thing.
  • acex23 - March 2, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    @AlphaAGENT144 Check out Infinity Blade. It looks better than anything I've seen on PSP or Nintendo DS by a country mile.
  • AlphaAGENT144 - March 2, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    dont let your huge egotistical e-peen and casual titles get in the way of your mouth there, Neil. Dont forget that the ipod graphics are not that great (although graphics dont make the game) and the controls are barbaric compared to actual buttons.
  • MkLangley - March 2, 2011 8:40 p.m.

    The iphone creator calls other devices gimmicky? *mind blown* Apple is the definition of gimmick.
  • Joshnix - March 2, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    this is stupid. I'm going to find this guy and punch him in the dick.
  • killorabbit - March 2, 2011 8:31 p.m.

    That's big talk from something most gamers don't count as a gaming platform. The 3DS might have 'gimmick'y qualities but I'd take my chances with one over an iPhone any day.
  • NG14916 - March 2, 2011 8:24 p.m.

    I don't really see how 3d is any more gimmicky than, say, hd quality resolution.
  • shawksta - March 2, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    BWAH HAHAHAH WAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAAHA. Is this chump serious? First off,Nintendos innovative, they take anything gimmicky and do an awesome job making them part of the gaming Industry. Second,NGP Will have a huge amount of technology,better than the iPhone, the ipad I'm not sure. And third this moron thinks he knows anything about gaming? Apple is only good for money sucking and decent hardware,if he thinks he can talk about the gaming industry like he knows everything than he's retarted, he's just a lonely 3rd party when it comes to gaming. Go back to your angry birds.
  • Balaska - March 2, 2011 7:26 p.m.

    My girlfriend loves casuals games, Apple has probably made about £20 off her and the purchases she has made. I love bigger games on consoles, PC and deicated gaming handhelds. I refuse to count up how much individual companies have made off me as I will cry :D This guy really doesn't understand the gaming market.
  • sirdilznik - March 2, 2011 7:24 p.m.

    You better believe the Nintendo 3DS is going to be competitive, it's Nintendo it pretty much goes without saying (maybe I shouldn't have said it? :p ). As for the the NGP I think the price will be a big factor in how it fares. If it winds up being upwards of $350 then it may well be dead on arrival. The fact that Sony didn't announce the price before the 3DS launched worries me (if they could have come in at $300 or less it would have made all the sense in the world to announce it before the 3DS launched). We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
  • Howetzer - March 2, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    This guy sounds like some idiot whos recently gotten rich off of casual gamers who play a game for 4 hours total then find something else to do, oh yeah and with a god complex stemming from the recent wealth. Hell the wealth will probably keep up, but it dont mean that people arent gunna jump on the NGP's capabilities like flies on....something. Same with the 3DS, people want complex large games, something apps are just not going to be able to pull off for a while at least.
  • acex23 - March 2, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    @spartan Saying Mac users can Die in a fire because they start flame wars is basically admitting to being painfully stupid or the most ironic thing I've read all day. & Sparkbot Speaking of ignorant, yes. You can right click.You've been able to do that for literally over half of a decade. Dont be an idiot. If you can help it.
  • ricochetguro - March 2, 2011 7:04 p.m.

    Also, hes know what sells on the iphone/ipod and I like how he suggests that Sony doesn't have any franchises people care about(quite the oppersite)

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