• Jacko415 - December 13, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    On the "Custom Soundtracks" GTA 4 DID have a radio station you could import you're own songs into, granted it was only on the PC version... Wouldn't be surprised if the inevitable PC version of GTA 5 did the same.
  • nai1210 - December 14, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    Grand theft auto 3 had that on the pc aswell,and that was back in the ps2/xbox days
  • JQuest81 - December 13, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    I enjoyed the article, but in your intro you lumped the Wii U in with the 7th generation of systems. It's the successor to the Wii, so it's technically part of the 8th along with PS4 and XB1.
  • GR_AndyHartup - December 14, 2013 3:26 a.m.

    I see the Wii U as part of the 7th gen, mainly because its hardware is on a par (well, slightly more powerful) with PS3 and 360. I think Nintendo has started to ignore traditional 'generation classification' anyway, but I wanted to write about a couple of things that the Wii U has pioneered...
  • JQuest81 - December 14, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Just because Nintendo is shying away from the traditional generation classification shouldn't mean we should just ignore logic and consistency. The only problem I find with that argument is what happens 8-10 years down the line when it's time to go on to the next generation of consoles (if there is a next generation) Where would Nintendo be placed then? Would they be a part of the 9th Gen or would they finally be a part of the 8th? or does that depend on how powerful it is next to Sony and Microsoft's machines? Or what happens if Nintendo says "Awww F it!" and halfway though the the 8th console cycle, they decide to produce a different machine. Does that mean that they've FINALLY joined the 8th or would they be the 9th at that point and how long would that machine last? Would they just ride that one halfway through what would be MS and Sony's 9th? Or are we just saying that at this point Nintendo is living in it's own temporal dimension (though it totally seems like it sometimes) I should point out that I have all three 8th Gen systems, so I'm definitely not any sort of fanboy, (except of logic) In any case, I need to get on some of that Man-Stabber action. ;-)
  • TheGreyWizard - December 13, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    "Changed games" most times doesn't mean 'for the better'. Achievements and motion controls in particular, cheapened gaming way too much...
  • db1331 - December 13, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    Came here to say this. Those two things, along with pre-order bonuses and review embargoes, are some of the worst things to ever happen to gaming.
  • Jackonomics2.0 - December 13, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    You forgot indies, aka, make 2D Platformers irrelevant and garbage.
  • AgentSmith2518 - December 13, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Custom soundtracks was in before this generation. The original Xbox had it (GTA even let you have that "custom station." 3 had the CD Player and Vice City had the cassette). Even True Crimes: Streets of LA let you choose specific music for high action, drama, etc. I feel like this feature has always been something I've wanted (ever since I saw it used in True Crimes) and yet it's been overlooked.
  • BladedFalcon - December 13, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    I remember the Xbox could do that with some games, yes, but that was the thing: It was ONLY certain games that allowed you that functionality. It was with this gen that they made it so you could put your own background music to any game you wanted, not just a select few.
  • crazymarc - December 13, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    Thumbs up for Andy! He's a really cool guy, give him a massive raise >:D You could give me money too, that's always cool :)
  • daak - December 13, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    This article gets a few things flat out wrong. "Full HD" is synonymous with 1080p which most games on these systems were not. Even if you think of 720p as "full HD", the original xbox had some 720p games so it doesn't belong on the list. The original Xbox also had custom soundtracks and DLC so both of those don't belong on the list. Finally, and its a matter of preference, but Achievements are a net negative development in games because they, for the most part, killed cheat code and cheat codes extended the replayability of games. Cheat code were a way to actually change the gameplay fundamentally, sometimes easier, sometimes just different. This gave the player a way to experience the game differently from start to finish. Its true achievements can incentivize a second playthrough or even a different style of play but achievements don't actually grant access to a new way to play the game.
  • GR_AndyHartup - December 13, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    I know. It's all in the intro slide... Never claimed that these features were invented by Xbox 360 etc, only that this generation standardised them and made them 'the norm'.
  • Shigeruken - December 13, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    Were there many console games last gen that ran in native 1080p? Most were 480p upscaled, and the rest were normally 720p upscaled. I know there are at least a few 1080p games, but I can't remember any of them off the top of my head. But yes, I remember my first experience with an hd game on a television. Those neck muscles in GRAW were unbelievable.
  • GR_AndyHartup - December 13, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    Most were native 720p, upscaled. Stuff like WipEout HD were 1080p. My point is that HD became standard. Ha - and yes, my first experience of HD gaming was Condemned. Went to see it about 4 weeks before Xbox 360 was announced - couldn't believe how good the levels and lighting looked in HD. Now it looks really lame, but back in 2005... wow.
  • Shigeruken - December 13, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    Haha, yeah, I actually tried to go back and play the Ghost Recon games a few months ago. In my memory they were on par with Battlefield 3 or Splinter Cell. Games like that looked great for their time, but boy have things come a long way since then. Sometimes I get things mixed up a little at 4am, so sorry if I make a comment that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
  • GR_AndyHartup - December 14, 2013 3:23 a.m.

    Ha - that's ok. Your comment did make sense, so kudos for being so alert at 4am...

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