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  • Meleedragon27 - September 3, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    Well, I was originally gonna come in here and mention Assassin's Creed 2, but it seems two other commenters beat me to it. So, instead I'll just say Super Metroid as a sequel to Metroid on the NES. You people can defend the original all you want, but it has aged TERRIBLY to the point where it's borderline unplayable. The bad controls, the overly stingy health system where Samus was super-fragile and health pickups were not only rare but didn't even restore all that much health (made even worse that Samus would respawn with only 20 health upon dying, where most baddies deal about 15 damage), the long corridors that all look identical to each other where navigation was a pain even with a map (and don't even get me started on the lack of maps)... it may have been groundbreaking for 1987, but it's absolutely terrible by today's standards. Super Metroid, on the other hand... now there's a game that's aged wonderfully and fixed almost everything wrong with the original. I remember playing it about two or three years ago and it held up pretty darn well. Seriously, I still think it was one of the best games on the SNES, and it's hard not to see why Retro aped a lot of the mechanics for their games (<3 Metroid Prime). Yes, I'm well aware of Metroid II's existence, but being a portable title on the GB, I never played it. Is it any good? Regardless, I'll still stand by Super Metroid as a great (console) sequel to a now-forgettable game.
  • yonderTheGreat - September 3, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    I don't know what's wrong with you, but normal humans were blown away by AC1's awesomeness. At least, at first. Yes, it's aged terribly. When people who haven't played the series ask me for my opinion, I tell them to watch an LP of it instead of playing it. But that's not what this article is talking about. Before the AC2 was released, the overall feeling about AC1 was "a lot of fun, with great potential, and some huge issues". It certainly wasn't considered "forgettable" by any means. "Aged poorly" does not mean "forgettable" or else the original Half-Life is forgettable, and NO ONE, not even you, thinks that.
  • Meleedragon27 - September 3, 2012 5:30 p.m.

    AC1 was not awesome for its time in the slightest; it was horribly repetitive, the color palette was a cacophony of browns and grays, the Desmond sections felt jarring and intrusive (fun fact: when you keep reminding the player that they're playing a game, it tends to be a big immersion-killer), and the ending was a cliffhanger so obtuse that it left most folk angry and confused. And no, the overall feeling for AC was NOT super-positive. I was there when the game came out, and all I heard was mostly mixed reviews. It may have had some pretty cities and good presentation, but it was the very definition of forgettable: not good enough to be remembered fondly, and not bad enough to warrant angry nerds digging it up to rage about it on Youtube for years to come. It was mediocre, and mediocrity is the very apex of forgettable due to there being nothing truly remarkable (good or bad). Also, games that age poorly are indeed forgettable games; everything positive there was to learn and enjoy from it has been had, and later games have gone on to refine these elements. When the only thing left from the game to learn is "what not to do," then it's time to put it aside and move on to greener pastures.
  • Redeater - September 3, 2012 5:44 p.m.

    I have to agree. AC1 was the most expensive beta test ever. I replayed it recently trying to convince myself it was good. It wasn't......at all. Don't believe me? Boot it up again.
  • SDHoneymonster - September 4, 2012 4:51 a.m.

    I wasn't blown away by AC1's awesomeness. It's one of the most tedious games I've ever played, so much so that I haven't got round to playing any of the rest of the series because of it. I know they're supposed to improve dramatically, but
  • FOZ - September 3, 2012 4:27 p.m.

    The game has to have been forgettable in the first place, and you said yourself that it was "groundbreaking." So clearly it doesn't belong here. It's no surprise to anyone that plenty of games on the NES had vastly-improved SNES sequels.
  • Meleedragon27 - September 3, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Whoops, it seems part of me forgot the game had to be unremarkable from the start. To be honest, I wasn't around back in '87, so I'm not sure just what the reception to Metroid really was, but I do know that it's borderline unplayable by today's standards. Also, now that I think about it, you're right about SNES sequels being improved to their NES originals (though at least Mario and Zelda, aged as they are, are at least still playable), but I still think Super Metroid took it to a whole new level: to go from a title that has aged to the point of being borderline unplayable to a game that to this day remains one of the finest 2D games I've ever played is no small feat.
  • Flashinthepan - September 4, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    Metroid II is one of my favorite Game Boy title, well worth checking out on the 3DS' eShop, or whatever it's called.
  • xx_CaPTiiN_SpAiiN_zz - September 4, 2012 3:21 p.m.

    u stopped talking to that guy because he had a fursuit fetish... thats pretty dumb and makes pretty much all you say irrelevent.
  • Meleedragon27 - September 5, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    What the hell are you talking about? I don't remember saying anything about fursuit fetishes, at least not on this site anyway. But apparently, because I don't like fursuit fetishes, it automatically means I'm "dumb" (word of advice, don't go using that word if you're gonna make grammar mistakes like using "u" in place of "you," among others) and makes everything I say pointless. I think it is pretty relevant, especially considering how you cared enough to respond.
  • xx_CaPTiiN_SpAiiN_zz - September 6, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    thats not my problem as this is the internet... you dont have to type like an essay... anyway "you" should stop being a hypocrite if youre going to be a furry AND insult someone who is also into wierd fetishes. that just doesnt add up. and then you come on this site and think can talk the talk??? be grateful that people even listen to you...
  • Meleedragon27 - September 6, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    Wow. So because this is the internet, you don't feel the need to type coherent sentences that don't make you look stupid? Good luck getting anyone online to take you seriously with that attitude. Anyway, I remember the guy you're talking about - this was over at GameFAQs, right? Overlooking your illogical statement that having kooky fetishes is required to be a furry (there are so many things wrong with that sentence), I wasn't attacking him for his idiotic fetishes, it was because he took the furry thing too far and embraced everything wrong with the community: Unhealthy obsession with sex? Check. Incredibly bad with money? Check. Gleefully bragging on non-furry related boards about all the furry porn and animal dildos he bought, then throwing a hissy fit when people expressed their disgust at him? Check. Proceeds to brag about his nasty-ass fursuit sex on this same board about a month or two later, with predictable reactions? Check. Practiced date rape on his old room-mate and still sees nothing wrong his actions? Check-a-roonie! The dude was a sex offender in the making (I still think he'll wind up on the registry in a few years) and was only making us all look like sex-starved morons. Truly, I'm a horrible person for wanting to see furrydom cast as something other than a laughingstock of the internet, where even weeaboos have more credibility than us. And it would be a lot easier to get rid of these harbingers of disgrace if it weren't for pricks like you who seem to think we should welcome every damn lowlife and creeper who wants to be a part of our clique, all the while pretending everything is fine and putting on a pretty face for the public when convention time rolls around the corner. Be grateful that people listen to ME? Hah, you should be grateful people even listen to punks like YOU, with your laughable grammar and eagerness to defend everything wrong with furrydom - if it weren't for folks like you, this community would've cleaned up its act a long time ago. This conversation is over. Now do everyone here a favor and go crawl back to that cesspit FurAffinity, where you belong.
  • xx_CaPTiiN_SpAiiN_zz - September 7, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    being a furry is a fetish... if youre just going to overlook that kind of logic to back up your points then go back home. i have a friend who is a furry and that is ok... hes still straight, so it doesnt matter what else happens with him in the eyes of the Lord. people like YOU make your own community look bad by shunning other people... im just trying to help by making you understand it. if you had a go at him for doing legitamately bad stuff then ok... he was just happy from when i read and you didnt like that happiness.
  • Zeedar - September 3, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    Red Dead Revolver -> Red Dead Redemption
  • brickman409 - September 4, 2012 9:43 p.m.

    definitely, most people don't even know that Red Dead Redemption is even a sequel
  • Thedigitalg - September 3, 2012 1:05 p.m.

    I would add FF13 and FF13-2 to this. I really enjoyed 13, but could understand the hate for it. 13-2, however, blew it out of the water and is probably my favourite game of the year.
  • golub - September 3, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    Dudes, Spiderman 1 & 2 ----> worst to best spidey game
  • brickman409 - September 3, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    fallout 3? well some people say the first two were great but i say they're easy to forget after ten years
  • SDHoneymonster - September 3, 2012 12:20 p.m.

    I don't actually think all that much of the first Uncharted if I'm honest - the sequel was a massive leap forward. The first one was a shooting gallery with pretty graphics, saved by Sully and his wonderful moustache.
  • SDHoneymonster - September 3, 2012 12:22 p.m.

    So basically I'm saying Uncharted 2 would have been on this list if I made it, I didn't mean to just criticise the first one.
  • Kieran712 - September 3, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    Eh I see where your coming from. But I think Uc1 to Uc2 makes the former seem bad compared to the latter. At the time Uncharted was extremely pretty and fairly fun to play. So it was still a solid game to begin with. Then Uncharted 2 comes out and blows it out the water making it look lame.

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