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The most biased TV video game debate ever

Must…resist urge… to scream… until lungs collapse.  If you’ve not watched the violent video games corrupting children ‘debate’ that aired on UK channel ITV recently, grab yourself a paper bag to breathe into. You’re going to need it. Riddled with inaccuracies, the thinly-veiled witch hunt on the Alan Titchmarsh Show against CVG editor Tim Ingham would be hilarious if it wasn’t so maddeningly ill-informed. So join us as we pick the woefully-researched bones out of one of the most biased pieces of game-bashing TV we’ve seen in years.


Right, watched the above video? Good. Told you you’d need that bag. Remember: long deep breathes. First off, Alan, we should point out that there’s no such thing as Call of Duty 2: Modern Warfare. Hey, it’s an understandable mistake. Hell, it only had the biggest, most profitable entertainment launch of all time.


Above: Call of Du... what's that say on the autocue?

Next, we have Kelvin Calder MacKenzie, whose former tabloid rag The Sun regularly pumps out this sort of considered, impartial journalism…


Above: Quite

MacKenzie goes on to claim the tragic case of James Bulger’s murder in 1993 was tied to the fact that John Venables (one of his killers) was influenced by violent games. Admittedly, a very difficult and painful claim, the accusation is still entirely false, as the killer was said to be influenced by video nasties like Child’s Play 3. Again, though, these were unsubstantiated claims made by the court judge at the time. Claims that were almost instantly refuted by the then UK Minister of State David Maclean.


Above: MacKenzie made some bold claims, though not all of them were accurate

99 comments

  • SCRubS77 - April 1, 2010 1:02 a.m.

    Jesus. I can't believe this kind of shit is allowed to go on.
  • TheTalkRadarNinja - March 28, 2010 5:16 a.m.

    Alright I feel the exact same way as just about everyone else about this stupid one-sided biased debate. I'm also 14 i play call of duty and BFBC2 and L4D2 they don't make me angry or violent. I am however clinically depressed but i think that's more because I have and uncommon disease called ulcerative colitis and IBS(irittable bowel syndrome). So i basically have ulcers on my colon and i'm only in high school! I don't know anyone that lives near me with a similar condition. So basically violent video games don't ruin peoples lives REAL FREAKIN PROBLEMS DO! and people who think video games are dangerous or harmful need to learn this
  • jonano - March 27, 2010 2:54 a.m.

    man i could not watch this with out putting my hands over my face and going my god there sooooooo stupid!!!!!. i guess they didn't realize that they basically insulted so my gamers and my dad plays call of duty all the time and he loves it he was mad aswell when he saw this. lol
  • Stabby_Joe - March 26, 2010 10:33 p.m.

    Ah, a "Daily Mail" audience I see.
  • paul_pastie - March 26, 2010 6:37 p.m.

    They say video games make you violent, NO! Listening to this whiney s*** and the bias audiance makes you violent!
  • horsemontage - March 26, 2010 4:28 p.m.

    Take heart from the fact that the baying crowd are the kind of people who audience-attend the filming of daytime tv chat shows, and therefore have no worth, say or circumstance in the runnings of the real world.
  • FIVE - March 26, 2010 6:05 a.m.

    I think it's great that you guys are speaking your minds but remember... there is no use in geting mad because you know all too well that we simply can't reason with these people. just ignore them... now... let's get back to playing " Call of Duty 2: Modern Warfare."
  • Cyberninja - March 25, 2010 10:19 p.m.

    i had a huge comment but my computer said FU and restarted as soon as i finshed. so i am glad gamers are going to be a huge part of the next genration because i am sure that bitch never even played a game
  • rut4000 - March 25, 2010 7:47 p.m.

    I agree completely with Peasgood, one of my favorite games is bioshock, and just recently i went into an underwater city, modified my genes, meaning i was able to use my left hand to shoot things such as fire from my arm and killed large amounts of people in the city, along with doing unmentionable things to little girls. What a stupid b****. This argument was far too one sided, it made me happy that ITV had to apologise, but that still doesn't remove the anger that i hold for most people who are adamant that video games promote violence, and it is probably far easier for children to watch violent films than it is for them to pick up a game and play it through, mastering the controls to kill people. It is just like the old GTA argument that you are encouraged to pick up hookers and kill them, this has never been encouraged in a game but still makes me angry when it is mentioned. rant over.
  • JackSkellingtonsSkin - March 25, 2010 6:01 p.m.

    ITV don't care and will not listen I propose you complain to BBC and tell them that you were not happy with ITV's "debate". BBC will issue through the media, if they get enough complaints, that it is nothing to do with them. Then people will read that it was ITV who had this biased coverage thus harming ITV and not BBC. Otherwise this story will only reach gamer ears and Ofcom will throw it aside in a weeks time.
  • Conman93 - March 25, 2010 5:33 p.m.

    That was an ordeal to watch! And all of it was total crap- ive played loads of really violent games (main example-GOW3) and Im probably one of the most passive people in the world And as for children easily getting adut games, I wasnt sold Uncharted 1 because it was 16+, and I was a month from 16. Im tempted to show my dad this clip. I think hes sort of on the side of that idiotic bitch!
  • Unoriginal - March 25, 2010 5:16 p.m.

    Oh. My. God. It's like they twist or ignore everything he says. If that isn't ignorance then I don't know the meaning of the word
  • Oddeh7 - March 25, 2010 4:36 p.m.

    I was laughing in my mind all the way through. Also, it sounded like Julie said something about "Boomer shooting people in a airport". Of course, it's unclear and sounds like Bieber (LOL), but just saying. I think I'll just let this quote from the Guardian website do the talking: 'I'll let Charlie Brooker have the final word, this from Twitter last night: "Which is less civilised? Some gunplay in pixel-land, or an unfair one-sided censorship debate before a mooing audience in reality?"' Sorry for the long comment.
  • 1Bit - March 25, 2010 3:40 p.m.

    18 18 18 18 Adult Adult Adult not for children. What part of that do they not understand? If you told these old farts that you also get adult comics I bet that will confuse them even more.
  • CaseD - March 25, 2010 2:58 p.m.

    I ignored the paper bag advise, wish I hadn't. Bloody audience ignoring facts, ARGH! If people take note of age ratings there is absolutely no problem. Ok calming down.... OH F**K NO! She mentioned the airport... this is more dangerous than video games, I'm about to hemorrhage here.
  • SnoeL - March 25, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    Don't forget if you want to officially complain go to Ofcom, the link can be found in this group which now has over 70 members. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=106847776011179 Please join.
  • nickbrah - March 25, 2010 2:24 p.m.

    I have a strange urge to smack that woman until she stops dribbling sh*t and poor Tim had to sit there and deal with that level of ignorance that many a gamer would have just nerd raged over. Well done Tim we're proud of you.
  • philipshaw - March 25, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    Tim done a good job of making the other guests look like idiots. They didn't know anything
  • Paranoimia - March 25, 2010 1:29 p.m.

    This was as entertaining as it was annoying. The look on Tim's face is priceless - you can tell he knows what a bunch of ill-informed fuckwits he's dealing with, and seems resigned to the fact that he's not going to get his point across. Credit to the man for taking it in his stride, though - I'd probably have 'proved their point' by standing up and smacking them all in the mouth. But that's nothing to do with videogames, that's just an intolerance of stupid, blinkered people.
  • Gluttonysan - March 25, 2010 11:38 a.m.

    Wow. That cretainly was a witch hunt. Felt like the whole place vs Tim. Man I would have yelled at someone and punched them in the face (I was yelling at the computer the whole way through). Man they were a bunch of ... douches, the only word I can find to describe them

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