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High-profile game makers uninterested in Kinect and Move

Sony spokescomic Kevin Butler wants you to laugh at the mere thought of Wii’s “inferior” motion controls. Microsoft wants you to think that driving a go-kart with your hands is cool. But those are marketing guys. They HAVE to like it. What about the people who make games? What do they think? Some of the biggest names in games are giving the Move and Kinect a resounding “meh.”

Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada, who respected Microsoft enough to screw over Sony fanboys when by dropping Final Fantasy XIII’s PS3 exclusivity, is not showing so much respect to the Kinect. In a recent interview with Venture Beat, Wada said that while he thinks the Kinect is “interesting,” then followed with: “I would say it is no different from just the Wii.”

So, Sony fanboys, go ahead and begin the pointing and snickering. Oh wait, don’t go too far with that, because another one of the biggest figures in the industry, Fable creator Peter Molyneux, has made the same comments about the Move. He told UGO, “I know Sony and Nintendo would argue that [the Move and the Wii] are different, but they kind of seem the same.”

So what does all this mean? Well, in spite of the fact that the people behind such hotly anticipated titles as Brunswick Pro Bowling say Move is "mouthwatering,” and that Kinect guy Kudo Tsunoda is so cool that you kind of wanna buy anything from him, there may not be a cataclysmic shift in gaming like Microsoft and Sony are promising.

In the end, if people as high-profile as Wada and Molyneux are going on record as saying they don’t see any big different with the new motion controls, there’s probably not going to be a killer app for the Move or Kinect any time soon. After all, the two most warmly-received Kinect games at E3 were a dancing game and the spiritual sequel to a nine year-old rail shooter – not exactly blazing a new trail there. Could it just be that for the last year, all this talk of new revolutionary ways to play, and completely new and improved technology, is nothing but a lot of marketing speak? What would Kevin Butler say?

Jul 12, 2010

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24 comments

  • omalley420 - November 3, 2010 7:46 p.m.

    Due to the unique nature of these new control devices and the games they have coming out (more so with the kinect) I will hold off any half baked comments until I have mine setup and get a chance to run it through its paces tomorrow...THEN I can answer matter-of-factly instead of speculation or the "my cousins uncles half nephew tried it at walmart" defense.
  • mdhammer - July 13, 2010 5:09 a.m.

    i smell a flame war.
  • tayls - July 13, 2010 4:45 a.m.

    How absolutely surprising? You mean the thing that everyone at E3 knew was going to happen, happened?!?
  • garnsr - July 13, 2010 1:44 a.m.

    I actually enjoyed the tech demos for Move in the latest Qore. It does some really cool things, but who knows if anything worthwhile will come out of them gamewise? I think PS3 and 360 (especially PS3) have a better chance of getting real games for their motion setups than the Wii has. The problem is not all Ps3 and 360 gamers will have one, like all Wii users have a remote, so they'll either not be able to sell games made for motion controls to people who haven't bought in, or will have to spend extra time adding in "bonus" motion control to games that can use regular controllers.
  • JohnnyMaverik - July 13, 2010 12:53 a.m.

    I take Wada's comments more seriously than Molyneux, not becuase either is more right or wrong than the other, but simply because Molyneux is a glorified Microsoft PR man and Wada isn't.
  • gaseoussnake - July 13, 2010 12:43 a.m.

    Isn't move and kinect just ways a game designer could increase his tools, like a painter with more brushes? Maybe if those guys could integrate this technology into their games they might like it. Or they could be lazy and fear change as they are slowly phased out.
  • RebornKusabi - July 13, 2010 12:04 a.m.

    You know, I just played through Bioshock 2 AND finally suffered through the Kinect E3 presentation and I honestly agree with Brett Elston, that little girl REALLY reminding me of a Little Sister...
  • HotCyder - July 12, 2010 11:40 p.m.

    The only thing that interests me about Kinect is the non-gaming uses: Webcam, Remoteless interface and stuff. Move is just the Wii Remote for rich kids. I have no doubt that these will be successes for their consoles though - I just hope they can get their Big First and Second parties can come up with twists on their successful franchises - A Kinect Version of Halo would be a blast with the right ideas.
  • Manguy17 - July 12, 2010 11:39 p.m.

    is it not possible for kinect to run while you sit down using a controller, perhaps waving your hand around to slap some baddies every now and then, surely the ability to use stuff ( controller for example) other that waggle sticks while playing should be its selling point riiiiiight?
  • anelson89 - July 12, 2010 11:11 p.m.

    @ hunterXhunter its Child of Eden
  • keefster - July 12, 2010 11:05 p.m.

    Well thats a big relief. I have nothing against motion control - I got wii sports resort with motion plus, and it handles AMAZING, yet its true that big developpers don't care cause nothing has come along yet to really work with it. I got my money on Zelda. Yet at the same time I like a simple controller for my call of duty and Halo games, and I prefer a simple controller for titles like uncharted and such. Motion is just a big gimmick, I think it will die out. I hope it does.
  • JADENkOTOR - July 12, 2010 10:58 p.m.

    I guess Im the only one that doesn't particularly like the new layout... oh well I guess. As for the article I didn't really learn anything new. Bring on Kinectimals
  • hunterXhunter - July 12, 2010 10:40 p.m.

    "the spiritual sequel to a nine year-old rail shooter" What game is this?
  • ScruffMoney - July 12, 2010 10:39 p.m.

    I'll get shit for this but why are you mentioning fanboys in your article? I mean if GamesRadar doesn't write posts for news then why are you guys writing one for developers' comments? You take Wada's comments as giving it a "meh" despite the fact that he said it's interesting, just because he compares it to the Wii. Well Dragon Quest X is in development for the Wii so Square obviously puts some backing behind the little white box. And as far as Molyneux's comments how is this any different than a comment from Aaron Greenberg or Major Nelson? But that said, he is right, I mean the Wii and Move are similar. But so is a Hawk and a Sparrow, they're similar but mind you one is vastly superior to the other. And further more you take their comments as indicating that it's likely that nobody will put any development resources behind it and it is there for unlikely that it will have a "killer app". That's quite the leap. I mean, what was the PS3's killer app when it launched? Look at how far it's come, I don't think anyone would argue that it has several killer apps now. Overall, I'm not impressed with this article and I'm slightly disappointed that a website like GamesRadar stooped to posting something like this. I await having my back jumped on for daring to criticize a journo.
  • thor0997 - July 12, 2010 10:21 p.m.

    People called the Wii "interesting" when it first came out, and look what happened. Meh! recaptcha: luque outside... Look outside (looks*) Its stormy here. Hope that isnt prophetic.
  • Cyberninja - July 12, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    hexar is right
  • Hexar - July 12, 2010 10:10 p.m.

    Wow this article so much fail. From Wada he said interesting and see's no difference. Hardly a huge dish against the product. And Molyneux, the man behind the studio that got BOUGHT OUT by Microsoft and is on their payroll now, is softpedaling a burn on the other guy's product? WOW. That surely must mean something. Mind you I don't care for either product and won't spend a dime on either, but there is some serious bait and switch going on with this article.
  • nuno004 - July 12, 2010 10:10 p.m.

    well it seems this will all roll over and die like eyetoy and stuff like that, they will have awesome launch games but they will release crap ones after. Maybe microsoft should of spent that money on creating a portable system, that way they can expand and recreate great games from xbox, MAKE IT SO MICROSOFT!!!
  • Felixthecat - July 12, 2010 10:04 p.m.

    HALLELUJAH!!!
  • number1hitjam - July 12, 2010 10:03 p.m.

    God I love this new GR layout so much better. And anyway, shrew shelling out extra cash for one of those things, I've been limiting myself to only buying games under ten dollars (Civ IV and Red Faction for $15 hell yes)

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