Fallout: New Vegas's Honest Hearts DLC incompatible with some save files

Some Fallout: New Vegas players are reporting that an old bug from the main game is preventing them from playing the latest Honest Hearts expansion. And by "reporting" we mean "complaining bitterly." And by that, we mean "wondering why they can't ever play Fallout: New Vegas without something screwing up."

The issues are apparently tied into the notorious ED-E glitch, a bug held over from the main game which was named after a robotic companion who had the annoying habit of getting lost, losing equipment, disobeying orders and generally being a useless mechanical asshat. Bethesda and Obsidian made numerous attempts to fix ED-E's flaws over the last year, but now it appears that remnants of the bug are making it impossible for some players to move forward in Honest Hearts.

"We are aware of the issue and are working on a fix for the next patch," wrote Bethesda's community manager Nick Breckon on the studio's blog, admitting, "That said, if you already have a save game where the bug is occurring, the fix will not apply and you'll need to revert to an earlier save prior to ED-E leaving in order to play through Honest Hearts."

Since ED-E can leave hours before the final act in New Vegas's main campaign, this ultimately means some Honest Heart hopefuls are SOL unless they had the presence of mind to keep a few old saves hanging around. As forum poster FrankBroWest said:

"How many earlier saves are you expecting us to keep? With a game as large as this, with so much going on, and only so many save spots for multiple playthroughs, how can you honestly keep expecting people to have a back up of moments before an issue may have taken place? Understand that for many this is not an acceptable solution and we need real fixes before any more DLC."

Honest Hearts takes the wasteland picnic to Utah's Zion National Park. It was released May 17th for Xbox 360 and PC. The PS3 version has been delayed indefinitely. That may be for the best.

[Source: Bethesda]

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  • igothitwithabulb - May 23, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    My main problem is that Obsidian decided to put a 100 save limit on New Vegas. Why in God's name would they do that, especially considering that the game ended up so buggy? They could have easily let some of their intense fixes right after the game slip if they just released a patch that allowed for unlimited saves (something already useful in general) so that we could have backups. Bad practice, I know, but considering that I had WAY over 100 in Fallout 3, this is a necessity.
  • ZombieTumor - May 23, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    Its a fucking joke. they never get a game right the first time. always having to restart a new game to play the addons and ruining everything. i would like my money back for the dlc for all the problem they have caused. make it right the first time. i put alot of money your guys way so start impressing some people
  • jackthemenace - May 22, 2011 6:11 p.m.

    I never planned on buying this, but now I definitely won't. The ED-E bug happened to me ages ago, and I've tried in vain to fix it, but to no avail. But, is this what I'd been waiting for, a NV DLC that lets you play on AFTER the credits?
  • presc1ence - May 21, 2011 3:05 p.m.

    Hahahahahaha, has no one learned yet. I've given up on this game EVER working properly,and am constanly suprised that people are daft enough to buy broken DLC, for a broken game.
  • ElwoodFiore - May 21, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    60/60 achievements For Elwood Fiore. ^.^ And yes i agree this was way better than Dead Money. Though Dead Money had its high points. I'd still give it a 7/10 DLC wise. Honest Hearts I'd give a 9/10 Just because if your playing it on hardcore like me. The weight limit you can carry though the mountain pass is drastically much harder lol. The only thing i didn't like about Honest Hearts, Towards the end like dead money. You can simply make a save file before you make the final choice and get the remaining achievement. High points though, are to the amount of hidden caches for the new challenges they added finding the zions cache boxes with ammo and what not. And the she devil. Ahahahaha scared the hell out of me!
  • Cleanser247 - May 20, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    WE ARE NOT BETA testers Obsidian! Damn it! Now I'm afraid to start this. The recent game patch already f*cked up my save files. Oh well. IT IS WHAT IT IS! RIP Randy Savage.
  • silentflame666 - May 20, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    This news struck a death knell for me. As a dedicated Fallout fan, I've decided that, despite the myriad accounts of the game "working fine", to not even purchase the game second-handed as a form of silent protest. It seems that the particularly egregious handicaps New Vegas was born with is not simply a symptom of how game developers approach console games (which are increasingly suspect to lazy, ethically questionable post-release patching) today, but as the destructive, cumulative result of an intellectual franchise that always suffered from insufficient debugging and playtesting. From subjective experience, Fallout 2 contained many more bugs than the first installment, and it seems that New Vegas has brought that historical pattern into despicable new heights.
  • Yeager1122 - May 20, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    I stopped playing New Vegas becuase of the bugs months ago didnt know they still hadent fixed some looks like i made the right desicion.
  • D0CCON - May 20, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    Fallout and Elder Scrolls, the only two game series where I have over 100 save slots in the event of things like this. I love the games to death, but this is annoying. Luckily, the only companions I may travel with are dogs (and even then, I don't travel with them a lot). I like what being alone brings to the table in Fallout.
  • EnragedTortoise1 - May 20, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    SOL? I haven't heard that used since The Laramie Project... look it up.
  • FauxFurry - May 20, 2011 9:34 p.m.

    So many variables to keep a track of and a unfortunate lack of an eternity to do so in. They're gonna need a bigger posse of game testers from now on...possibly including some testers with more, shall we say, erratic thought processes who can help them to run down all of the most unexpected actions that can be taken in open world games, a sub-genre in which freedom of choice to go along with whatever fool notion pops into one's head whenever it strikes, where the 'unexpected' should always be expected. Honest Hearts appears to be almost completely bug-free unto itself (I haven't even experienced a single case of Honest Hearts locking up despite the main game having done so without provocation previously), maybe a first with DLC of it's type in a so-called WRPG but it exacerbates an issue with an earlier glitch in the main game which was thought to be patched.
  • LTS - May 20, 2011 9:05 p.m.

    Is it bad that I still haven't finished the main quest, despite playing it for over 140 hours?
  • kingdom - May 20, 2011 8:28 p.m.

    I understand how much it sucks for the people with bugs and I wish they could have fixed them from the beta version pre-release or something but I still have enjoyed playing New Vegas. Still a fantastic game even if the bugs cripple it for some.
  • PistonFistin - May 20, 2011 8:04 p.m.

    @BlackwaterRifle I'm the same. Enjoying this DLC much more than the last one.
  • MancisFrorkYorgan - May 20, 2011 7:58 p.m.

    Oh, Bethesda, you so vidya gaemz!
  • Reebokanonymous - May 20, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    Do these people know that there are games out there that don't have waves of issues? I will never buy a game like this because there are many other great games without all of these problems.
  • Hydr0ponicK - May 20, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    Wow...same thing happened with DLC for Fallout 3 didn't it? Seems like Bethesda doesn't learn, nor the consumer.
  • DrRock - May 20, 2011 7:49 p.m.

    I had ED-E get stuck in the Brotherhood's underground bunker when I blew it up so I never got the achievement for getting all the companions and I never wanted to go back and play through that stupid side quest again. I was debating on getting the DLC to but right now I think I'll wait to see what comes of this.
  • frexxa - May 20, 2011 7:30 p.m.

    Wheres the review!
  • Redeater - May 20, 2011 7:30 p.m.

    In other news water is. Seriously people this is not suprising. I love Fallout and Oblivion but this bullshit has to stop. We are putting up with buggy releases and patches that are released much later if at all.

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