Skip to main content
Join The Community
- Join our community
11
Premium Benefits
24/7
Access Available
21K+
Active Members
Commenting
Join the discussion
Exclusive Articles Coming Soon
Member-only articles
Weekly Newsletters
Weekly gaming & entertainment news
Member Badges
Earn badges as you go
Exclusive Competitions
Members-only prize draws
Curated Deals Coming Soon
Tech and gaming deals worth grabbing
GET COMMUNITY ACCESS QUICK
For the quickest way to join, simply enter your email below and get access. We will send a confirmation and sign you up to our newsletter to keep you updated on all your gaming news.
By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.
FIND OUT ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE
Want to subscribe to the magazine? Click the button below to find out more information.
Find out more
GET Community ACCESS QUICK

Join the GamesRadar community for quick access. Enter your email below and we'll send confirmation, and sign you up to our newsletter.

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

Background
Welcome to GamesRADAR+ Community !
Hi ,

Your membership journey starts here.

Keep exploring and earning more as a member.

MY ACCOUNT

Badge picture
Earn your first badge
Read 1 article to unlock your first badge.
Keep earning badges
Explore ways to get more involved as a member.
Latest Games News

Latest Games News

Breaking gaming news and updates

Read Now
Latest Games Reviews

Latest Games Reviews

Expert verdicts on the newest releases

Read Now

See what you’ve unlocked.

Explore your membership benefits.

Explore
Member Exclusives

Stay Ahead with GamesRadar+

Get the biggest gaming news, reviews, and releases straight to your inbox.

Explore

Sign Out
GamesRadar+ GamesRadar+
US EditionUS CA EditionCanada UK EditionUK AU EditionAustralia
Sign in
  • View Profile
  • Sign out
  • Games
    • Game Insights
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
    • Genres
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
    • Franchises
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • Insights
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
    • Computing
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
    • Accessories & Tech
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
  • home
  • Games
    • View Games
      • Games News
      • Games Features
      • Games Reviews
      • Games Guides
      • Big in 2026
      • Big Preview
      • Future Games Show
      • Golden Joystick Awards
      • Action Games
      • RPGs
      • Action RPGs
      • Adventure Games
      • Third Person Shooters
      • FPS Games
    • Platforms
      • View Platforms
      • PS5
      • Xbox Series X
      • PC
      • Nintendo Switch
      • Nintendo Switch 2
      • Tabletop Gaming
      • Grand Theft Auto
      • Pokemon
      • Assassin's Creed
      • Monster Hunter
      • Fortnite
      • Cyberpunk
      • Red Dead
      • The Elder Scrolls
      • The Sims
  • Entertainment
    • View Entertainment
    • TV Shows
      • View TV Shows
      • TV News
      • TV Reviews
      • Anime Shows
      • Sci-Fi Shows
      • Superhero Shows
      • Animated Shows
      • Marvel TV Shows
      • Star Wars TV Shows
      • DC TV Shows
    • Movies
      • View Movies
      • Movie News
      • Movie Reviews
      • Big Screen Spotlight
      • Superhero Movies
      • Action Movies
      • Anime Movies
      • Sci-Fi Movies
      • Horror Movies
      • Marvel Movies
      • DC Movies
    • Streaming
      • View Streaming
      • Apple TV Plus
      • Disney Plus
      • Netflix
      • HBO
      • Amazon Prime Video
      • Hulu
    • Comics
      • View Comics
      • Marvel Comics
      • DC Comics
    • Toys & Collectibles
    • Lego
    • Dungeons and Dragons
    • Merch
  • Hardware
    • View Hardware
      • Hardware News
      • Hardware Reviews
      • Hardware Features
      • Desktop PCs
      • Laptops
      • Handhelds
    • Peripherals
      • View Peripherals
      • Headsets & Headphones
      • TVs & Monitors
      • Gaming Mice
      • Gaming Keyboards
      • Gaming Chairs
      • Speakers & Audio
      • Gaming Controllers
      • Tech
      • SSDs & Hard Drives
      • VR
      • Accessories
      • Retro
  • Deals
    • View Deals
    • Game Deals
    • Tech Deals
    • TV Deals
    • Buying Guides
  • Video
    • View Video
    • Video
    • GR+ Replay - Submit Your Clips
  • Newsletters
    • Quizzes
    • About Us
    • How to pitch to us
    • How we score
    • Newsarama
    • Retro Gamer
Trending
  • Saros review
  • Arc Raiders
  • The Boys S5
  • Best turn-based RPGs
  • Submit your clips. Win prizes
  • Delta Force giveaway
Don't miss these
Slay the Spire 2 Defect robot standing in front of other classes
Roguelike Games Slay the Spire 2 devs initially wanted to keep updating the original instead of making a sequel
Slay the Spire 2
Roguelike Games Slay the Spire 2 plummets to 66% positive lifetime Steam reviews after first major update
Armored tank warrior walking in cathedral
Action Games Meet the dev who quit Rockstar Games during GTA 6 fever to make a single-player MMO-like
Shapez
Simulation Games Steam blocked this Factorio homage's early access release 5 times - now it's sold 2 million copies
Arc Raiders player holding a gun in red light
Third Person Shooters Marathon, Arc Raiders, and Last Flag devs discuss the ongoing evolution of multiplayer shooters
Enshrouded
Survival Games Palworld lead defends Enshrouded, says Pocketpair was fortunate to stand out in a "stacked" time
Dawnfolk strategy game grid
Strategy Games Meet the Assassin's Creed dev who left Ubisoft to make the weirdest city-builder you need to play
Subnautica 2 character with horrified expression
Survival Games Subnautica 2 launches May 14 in early access on Steam, Epic, and Xbox
Mel staring head-on with one red eye in Hades 2
Hades After 300 hours, Hades 2 has me back under its spell with a console launch and secret new game mode
A woman in a underwater machine waving during the cinematic teaser for Subnautica 2.
Survival Games Subnautica 2: Everything we know about the new underwater survival game
Arc Raiders raider swinging a hammer at an Arc
Third Person Shooters Arc Raiders players complain Riven Tides update took a hammer to weapon durability
Slay the Spire 2 classes
Roguelike Games Slay the Spire 2 devs were caught off guard by 13,000 negative Steam review spike
Subnautica 2 character with shocked expression
Survival Games Subnautica 2 devs won't touch generative AI despite "AI first" pivot at owner Krafton
InZoi zois taking photos together
Simulation Games InZoi boss isn't fazed by "a few hundred thousand returns" as the 1.0 launch looms
Arc Raiders characters drinking at a bar
Third Person Shooters As Arc Raiders gets stale for some, dev says players "reaching the end of our content" are a focus
Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more


By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

You are now subscribed

Your newsletter sign-up was successful


Want to add more newsletters?

GamesRadar+

Every Friday

GamesRadar+

Your weekly update on everything you could ever want to know about the games you already love, games we know you're going to love in the near future, and tales from the communities that surround them.

GTA 6 O'clock

Every Thursday

GTA 6 O'clock

Our special GTA 6 newsletter, with breaking news, insider info, and rumor analysis from the award-winning GTA 6 O'clock experts.

Knowledge

Every Friday

Knowledge

From the creators of Edge: A weekly videogame industry newsletter with analysis from expert writers, guidance from professionals, and insight into what's on the horizon.

The Setup

Every Thursday

The Setup

Hardware nerds unite, sign up to our free tech newsletter for a weekly digest of the hottest new tech, the latest gadgets on the test bench, and much more.

Switch 2 Spotlight

Every Wednesday

Switch 2 Spotlight

Sign up to our new Switch 2 newsletter, where we bring you the latest talking points on Nintendo's new console each week, bring you up to date on the news, and recommend what games to play.

The Watchlist

Every Saturday

The Watchlist

Subscribe for a weekly digest of the movie and TV news that matters, direct to your inbox. From first-look trailers, interviews, reviews and explainers, we've got you covered.

SFX

Once a month

SFX

Get sneak previews, exclusive competitions and details of special events each month!


Join the club

Get full access to premium articles, exclusive features and a growing list of member rewards.


An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
  1. Games

Subnautica 2 publisher says the studio's previous game was a "failure" – a strategy game that's nothing like Subnautica and peaked at under 1,000 Steam players

News
By Austin Wood published 10 July 2025

Ousted co-founder Charlie Cleveland said "it feels like I'll never get over that one"

When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

Moonbreaker
(Image credit: Unknown Worlds)
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Flipboard
  • Email
Share this article
5
Join the conversation
Follow us
Add us as a preferred source on Google
Subscribe to our newsletter

The ongoing back-and-forth over Subnautica 2's leadership gutting, subsequent delay to 2026, and an adjacent $250 million payout apparently tied to developer Unknown Worlds' 2025 revenue targets has only intensified following a scathing statement from publisher Krafton, which acquired the studio in 2021 and has now, in so many words, claimed that the old studio leaders had to go because they weren't doing their job.

In the margins of all this, a smaller but interesting narrative has emerged: the studio's previous game, which was nothing like Subnautica and was the first thing it released after Krafton acquired it, was an utter failure.

Krafton's newest statement argues that the ousted leaders "abandoned the responsibilities entrusted to them," and at one point calls out co-founder Charlie Cleveland specifically.

Article continues below
You may like
  • A woman in an underwater suit receiving a danger warning during the trailer for Subnautica 2. Reinstated Subnautica 2 leader says Krafton's release date reveal is "further damaging the game"
  • Subnautica 2 Krafton's publisher status vanishes from Subnautica 2 Steam and Epic Games Store pages amid ongoing legal drama
  • The First Descendant female warrior Dia 110,000 mixed Steam reviews later, Nexon bluntly files The First Descendant under "did not work"

"In particular, following the failure of Moonbreaker, KRAFTON asked Charlie to devote himself to the development of Subnautica 2," the publisher said. "However, instead of participating in the game development, he chose to focus on a personal film project."

Moonbreaker, you may remember – or not remember, because apparently nobody actually played it – was fully released in 2024 after a stay in early access that began in September 2022. It's a turn-based strategy game with PvP that doubles as a digital miniatures collector, letting you granularly paint and customize your units before sending them into battle in a world sculpted, in part, by fantasy author Brandon Sanderson.

This was inherently risky since strategy games have a relatively small audience with no real crossover with Subnautica's survival game demographic, but on Steam, Moonbreaker reviewed pretty well with a score of 84% positive after 1,262 reviews. A lot of game devs would kill for that kind of reception. But Unknown Worlds was coming off of Subnautica, which has 285,739 reviews with a 97% positive score on Steam. It's one of the best-reviewed games on the entire platform, which sets quite the bar.

Moonbreaker

(Image credit: Unknown Worlds)

I never got the impression that Unknown Worlds was banking on Moonbreaker being a Subnautica-sized hit, but whatever its expectations were, clearly the game drastically underperformed. And yeah, looking at its SteamDB history, which shows a peak player count of just 882 people nearly three years ago, it never got off the ground.

Sign up to the GamesRadar+ Newsletter

Weekly digests, tales from the communities you love, and more

By submitting your information you agree to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

So, let's explore these abandoned ruins a bit. A look through Moonbreaker's patch history shows a classic sign of trouble: "Business Model Changes" shortly after launch. From the outside looking in, it certainly seems like the devs were making drastic adjustments to monetization in hopes of wooing players who clearly didn't bite at the time and ultimately never did.

Compared to the talk around the reveal for Moonbreaker, this monetization patch sounds like pretty scorched earth stuff, removing one key currency from purchase and deleting booster boxes entirely. Moonbreaker was $30, but old reviews show some confusion and pushback around its original free-to-play-like monetization. Clearly it was enough of a problem to warrant a dev response.

The real killer seems like a tale as old as time: a multiplayer game with no players. Today's vicious market is one thing, but even in 2022, a potential snowballing death for anything with multiplayer was a very real hazard. A lot of the recent Steam reviews for Moonbreaker praise the painter sandbox and core gameplay, but lament that there's almost nothing to do since there is – at the time of writing, quite literally – nobody playing it.

You may like
  • A woman in an underwater suit receiving a danger warning during the trailer for Subnautica 2. Reinstated Subnautica 2 leader says Krafton's release date reveal is "further damaging the game"
  • Subnautica 2 Krafton's publisher status vanishes from Subnautica 2 Steam and Epic Games Store pages amid ongoing legal drama
  • The First Descendant female warrior Dia 110,000 mixed Steam reviews later, Nexon bluntly files The First Descendant under "did not work"

All of that being said, it wasn't until this increasingly public Subnautica 2 spat that the full depth of Moonbreaker's cratering really came into focus. Krafton has branded it a failure, and in a recent post of his own, which called the leadership changes a "shock," Cleveland described Moonbreaker as quite a sore spot.

Moonbreaker

(Image credit: Unknown Worlds Entertainment)

"I tell you all this because I want to tell you that game development is in my blood," he said in a post that described the leadership changes as a shock. "So is iteration and early access. Our games have thrived because of it, and one of our games failed because we thought we knew better.

"I was most passionate about that game, and it fell flat. We worked on it 5 years before our early access, thinking that this time we were experts and we knew better. But fewer people played that game than even that humble Half-Life mod," he added, referring to the Natural Selection mod that launched the studio back in 2001. Natural Selection 2, a standalone shooter, came out in 2012. It currently has 102 more players than Moonbreaker.

"Even though our studio had financial success in that period, and even though many fans fell in love with the game, it really wounded me and I needed time to heal. Sometimes it feels like I’ll never get over that one."

As Cleveland says, Moonbreaker's failure obviously wasn't enough to derail the studio – Subnautica sold a lot of copies, and its followup Below Zero did well too – but it seems to have had a noticeable impact on some people and perhaps relationships at the studio. Krafton was undoubtedly disappointed when the first game from the studio it just paid $500 million for, which had been riding high after two big hits, was an incomparable flop. Meanwhile, folks like Cleveland had whiplash from the severe contrast in performance. Now it's a question of whether Subnautica 2 the game, not Subnautica 2 the contentious and unreleased project, can overcome its own hurdles.

"No subscriptions. No loot boxes. No battle pass": Subnautica 2 devs address concerns following major leadership changes, insist "it will remain a single-player first experience."

TOPICS
Early Access
CATEGORIES
PC Gaming Platforms
Austin Wood
Austin Wood
Social Links Navigation
Senior writer

Austin has been a game journalist for 12 years, having freelanced for the likes of PC Gamer, Eurogamer, IGN, Sports Illustrated, and more while finishing his journalism degree. He's been with GamesRadar+ since 2019. They've yet to realize his position is a cover for his career-spanning Destiny column, and he's kept the ruse going with a lot of news and the occasional feature, all while playing as many roguelikes as possible.

You must confirm your public display name before commenting

Please logout and then login again, you will then be prompted to enter your display name.

Read more
A woman in an underwater suit receiving a danger warning during the trailer for Subnautica 2.
Survival Games Reinstated Subnautica 2 leader says Krafton's release date reveal is "further damaging the game"
 
 
Subnautica 2
Survival Games Krafton's publisher status vanishes from Subnautica 2 Steam and Epic Games Store pages amid ongoing legal drama
 
 
The First Descendant female warrior Dia
Third Person Shooters 110,000 mixed Steam reviews later, Nexon bluntly files The First Descendant under "did not work"
 
 
Arc Raiders screenshot of player running from a Leaper robot
Third Person Shooters Arc Raiders devs spent 3 years fighting "on a daily basis" over whether it was "a battle royale" or "a co-op Soul game"
 
 
A woman in a underwater machine waving during the cinematic teaser for Subnautica 2.
Survival Games Fired Subnautica 2 CEO must be reinstated, judge rules, and "may proceed with the early access"
 
 
Key art for Highguard showing Kai riding a bear, Atticus with the Shieldbreaker, and Scarlet, crouched, aiming down sights
FPS Games Ex Highguard developers blame "hubris" for the game's failure in new report
 
 
Latest in Games
Pragmata Diana hacking in the Shelter with her arm outstretched
Third Person Shooters Capcom teases that Pragmata might have a future as a franchise
 
 
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 peasants drinking at a table
RPGs Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 studio insists AI used in "early stages of production" only
 
 
Elder Scrolls Online
MMO Games ESO vet hates when people think the MMO is a "WoW clone" since "you're not going to have fun at all"
 
 
Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced reveal showcase screenshot shows Edward Kenway at the wheel of a ship.
Assassin's Creed Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced grants my wish and cuts PS3-era online nonsense
 
 
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 soldier squatting down
RPGs Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 devs won't confirm Lord of the Rings game, but do affirm a new RPG
 
 
Subnautica 2 character with shocked expression
Survival Games Subnautica 2 devs won't touch generative AI despite "AI first" pivot at owner Krafton
 
 
Latest in News
Pragmata Diana hacking in the Shelter with her arm outstretched
Third Person Shooters Capcom teases that Pragmata might have a future as a franchise
 
 
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 peasants drinking at a table
RPGs Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 studio insists AI used in "early stages of production" only
 
 
Elder Scrolls Online
MMO Games ESO vet hates when people think the MMO is a "WoW clone" since "you're not going to have fun at all"
 
 
Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced reveal showcase screenshot shows Edward Kenway at the wheel of a ship.
Assassin's Creed Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced grants my wish and cuts PS3-era online nonsense
 
 
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 soldier squatting down
RPGs Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 devs won't confirm Lord of the Rings game, but do affirm a new RPG
 
 
Andy Serkis as Snoke in Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Star Wars Movies Andy Serkis says playing Snoke in The Force Awakens was "a massive challenge" because he was constantly "evolving"
 
 
LATEST ARTICLES
  1. Pragmata Diana hacking in the Shelter with her arm outstretched
    1
    Capcom teases that Pragmata might have a future as a franchise, after at least 6 years in development hell pays off with 1 million sales in 2 days
  2. 2
    Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 studio insists AI used in "early stages of production" only, dodges questions about translator allegedly replaced by AI but says "we do not see AI as a substitute for human work"
  3. 3
    Elder Scrolls Online vet hates when people call the MMO a "WoW clone" since "you're not going to have fun at all" if you play it like Blizzard's game
  4. 4
    Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced grants my wish and cuts PS3-era online nonsense, but now it's been replaced with the modern online nonsense of Shadows
  5. 5
    Andy Serkis says playing Snoke in Star Wars: The Force Awakens was "a massive challenge" because the humanoid was "evolving as we were going along"

GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google
  • Terms and conditions
  • Contact Future's experts
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies policy
  • Accessibility statement
  • Careers
  • About us
  • Advertise with us
  • Review guidelines
  • Write for us

© Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.

Please login or signup to comment

Please wait...