• Talvari - April 22, 2013 6:12 p.m.

    Dem Esports. So long as developers don't try to add some kind of esports as a focus into a game that clearly shouldn't have it I don't mind them being here. They're certainly not shaping the future of gaming though : | Influencing at best.
  • Bloodstorm - April 22, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    eSports is something I whole-heartedly despise. It slowly saps away creativity and passion from games, makes every lobby a crap storm of people taking things way too serious, and generally encourages the most cheap/exploitative styles of game-play to be 'competitive'. Also, I think this articles gives way more credit to eSports than it deserves when it comes to "eSports appeal forced next-gen consoles to adapt." Let's plays are much more to blame (thank) for this. There are tons more people out there streaming without the intention of eSports than the eSports crowd. More importantly, it is the advent of consumer 'journalism' that is to thank.
  • FireIceEarth - April 22, 2013 2:14 p.m.

    Eee. Aaay. Sports. It's in the games I don't play.
  • FemJesse - April 23, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    eSports... not EA sports... reading ftw.
  • FireIceEarth - May 19, 2013 6:36 a.m.

    I know that, I was just making a topical reference to the news :)
  • BladedFalcon - April 22, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    Well, it's shaping a PART of gaming's future, one that I don't give two shits about, and seeing how there's still plenty of single player focus out there, thankfully a lot of devs don't either. I mean, it's nice that's growing in several paths, that being one, sure, but it's not like it's the one path gaming is taking XD
  • FoxdenRacing - April 22, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    Nailed it. [And jeebus, I just noticed how many conversations you and I have on here]. E-sports is a future of gaming, but it's hardly the ONLY future. Same as F2P, Social, and Mobile before'll carve out a niche, there will be some cross pollination between E-sports and other broad strokes of game types as developers naturally borrow what works from one another. And really, is something that dates back to the late 1990s the 'future'? Gaming is evolving at an extremely rapid pace to take advantage of technologies that have not only risen to prominence, but also viability, inside the past 4 years...but half the stuff in the article is nothing new. E-sports date back to at least the first QuakeCon, as do games made specifically for team-on-team gaming [Tribes]. Spectator modes are older than dirt [many old split-screen games 'broadcast' the coverage, and at least as far back as Age of Empires II or Red Alert 2 they existed], and even as far back as PGR3 [if not far further] some games had entire modes dedicated to just spectating. What we're seeing now is them becoming truly legitimized, rather than invented. Not really my thing...I grew out of being a hyper-competitive teenager over the years...but unless the industry goes on another 'One niche to rule them all' kick, it's not going to hurt anything having it around.
  • BladedFalcon - April 22, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    Heh, well, I honestly consider you one of the more sensible minded people in these parts, so I honestly don't mind talking to one another XD And yeah, I mean, obviously competitive gaming has become more widespread thanks to the advance in online technology and how increasingly easy it is to play online and how now most can afford a stable high speed connection. But in that sense, I feel E-sports growth is more of a consequence rather than a cause, better internet connections weren't made this way because of E-sports, certainly :P And to add something else rather than just agree and reiterate on what you said: The fact that "everyone" is making a MOBA right now doesn't really mean all of them will succeed. They are making them because they saw how successful LoL has been, but just like with WoW and MMOs, it's likely that only a few of them will actually make a dent in the market. Furthermore, this kind of thing also happened with "social" facebook games and peripheral-based games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero, and look how those particular "futures" of gaming have panned out. Not saying E-sports will go the same route necesarily, but perhaps this kind of article would have been more appropriate once all these new MOBAS and E-sport games like shoot-mania have been out for a while, and see the impact they actually make.
  • FoxdenRacing - April 23, 2013 8:29 a.m.

    It's a bandwagon, no different than every bandwagon dating back to the first definable genre. It's why I don't really care about CoD's influence anymore; with the number of high-profile flops and 'did well but instantly forgotten' entries in 'gritty modern military FPS', it's in the final stage of the outline. - The early market has a few entries that test the waters, as nobody really knows how to make the most of a new concept [UO, Wolfenstein, CnC] - A genre-definer comes along that proves wildly successful [Everquest, Doom, DoTA, Warcraft 2] - Key players in the industry get excited about (and hype to no end) the new 'future' of gaming [which loosely translates to 'Holy crap, did you see how much money that made? I want a piece of that!'] - The market gets flooded with countless shameless cash-in attempts - A game-changer comes along and becomes so dominant it forces the market to mature [WoW, Q3, LoL, Starcraft] - The market collapses into being a niche, as expectations have been raised to where not every unpolished turd can turn a healthy profit, not to mention a place where even well-made games can go overlooked. It's happened countless times before, and I have no reason to believe that isn't the case for the current crop: F2P, MOBA, and E-sports. I'd put gritty modern military action movie FPS on that list, but it's already winding down. The next big thing always becomes just another's the natural order of things. [no pun intended]
  • TheCakeIsaPie - April 23, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    Hehe, it's always refreshing to read your posts, guys.
  • FoxdenRacing - April 23, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    Thanks, dude! Maybe someday I'll start putting my brain-dumps somewhere other than comment threads. :)

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