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Baldur's Gate not coming to Wii U, says Beamdog: “We don't do Nintendo”

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition won't be coming to Wii U, says Trent Oster, founder of distributor Beamdog. Which is regrettable, but hardly show-stopping news. Only Oster's not done: the Bioware veteran took the opportunity to clarify his company's stance toward Nintendo, explaining why Beamdog has no further plans to work with the Japanese giant anytime soon.

Beamdog and subsidiary Overhaul Games, which is in charge of the Baldur's port, previously worked on a WiiWare conversion of MDK2, which Oster says was enough to swear off working with the company in future. He cites the company's high sales threshold and tight developer restrictions: “6000 unit sales before payment, a 9 month certification process and a 40mb [game data] limit.” He says this experience gave him the “belief that Nintendo isn't a good platform for developers.”

“The Wii is a toy, not a console,” tweeted Oster (via Eurogamer): “you buy a Wii, Wii sports and never buy another game. Bad for devs... we made a great version of a fun game, MDK2 for Wii, and it didn't sell anywhere near our expectations.”

Of course, charges of Nintendo's strict control over third-party devs are hardly new – and Oster allows that the company's own efforts, such as Ocarina of time and Mario 64, “blew me away on N64.” However, he says that the company's now focused on “110% Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition for the visible future” – and if Wii U owners want in, they'll have to pick up a real console like the iPad.

87 comments

  • Arehexes - April 18, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    Just wanna drop some info out, the older Nintendo systems also had great third party support because devs wanted to put the time into making the games. Devs now want to take the easy route and make games that has the hardware so they don't have to work on making it run right. "What I have to work on making a game optimized to run on less specs, screw that give me more hardware" It's a problem with software in general now, we have the ability to just throw hardware at the problem so why should they bother. If devs really really wanted to they could make great games on the Wii. I mean look at the Guild Wars 2 team, they are using older machines to test the games on to make sure it runs on more machines. Not have a game like Crysis that takes a monster of a machine to run (at the time of it's release). I like the company Shin'en because they see the restrictions as a challenge to make better games. But most big studios want to use the easy way out and all these engines that will not go on lower spec systems because the makers won't bother. Epic games did not want to port the unreal engine on android devices at all, and wasn't going to...that was until the specs were juuuuussstttt enough to port it with out much work. I can respect a dev who sees the limitation as a challenge to make a decent game. If Nintendo can take the time to make some decent games for these systems why are these other companies not willing to try. This attitude is the reason we have a stagnation in FPS's and other games devs follow in line to make for the cash grab. I will admit my PS3 gets more love then my Wii, but when a good wii game comes out it is a damn good game.
  • Fishjones - April 18, 2012 6:17 p.m.

    "if Wii U owners want in, they'll have to pick up a real console like the iPad" lol ok ill say a Wii U is much more a console then the ipad. but lets all stop being silly and just get a 360 or ps3.
  • IceBlueKirby - April 18, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    I must have hit a time warp back to 2007 to see people treating Wii bashing like it's still worth fighting over.
  • c-c-c-combo breaker - April 18, 2012 5:42 p.m.

    'The Wii is a toy, not a console' Well said.
  • Gruff182 - April 18, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    So good to hear a developer just saying, what most probably think. Everything else is typical spoon-fed PR. Absolute legend.
  • The_Boz - April 18, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    Why do some people feel offended when anybody says that the Wii is aimed at young children/women? My sister has one as does my gf, but I do not know any teen or adult males that own one. Playstation and Xbox both offer more mature and indepth gaming to older kids and adults alike. Nintendo has always had a more immature market than their competition, even back in the day of the SNES, apparently the Megadrive owners could handle the gore in Mortal Kombat whereas the owners of the SNES couldn't. Nintendo is cutesy, immature and safe, it always has been. I can see the point the dev is making and can appreciate it, and if you sit down and think what the Wii actually is and it's market, you can understand what he is saying. The type of person that likes to play dancing/yoga games or cutesy simple games will not be interested in a thought provoking RPG, if they are, they will already have a PC, Xbox or Playstation. For the record, I have given Nintendo a chance, as a "neutral" I chose SEGA Megadrive because of the catalogue on both formats, even though it was an older machine with inferior hardware capabilities, I have played a few games on the Wii, but it doesn't offer me anything near to the experiences I want from my games.
  • BackwaterRifle - April 18, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    This is supposed to be Nintendo's return to catering the hardcore, and those of us who love Nintendo and have had to weather the Wii want to see hardcore third party developers embrace the Wii U. Also, "Nintendo is cutesy, immature and safe" The fact that most of its first party games are rated between E-E10 (ESRB ratings) doesn't mean they are only for children, because last time I checked, pretty much all the the Super Mario Games, Legend of Zelda's (ones on Nintendo consoles), Kirby, and even Pokemon games are rock solid games that are enjoyable for gamers of all ages. Also, If you want violence, all you have to do is head back to the Gamecube and play some Resident Evil 4. Just because the Wii fell way short of the hardcore crowds expectation, doesn't mean Nintendo can't rebound.(They could also fall short again, but with seeing the current direction they have taken, it doesn't seem likely.)
  • SOLAMON77 - April 18, 2012 6:59 p.m.

    I guess I'm the exception then. I'm a 32 year old man who has been gaming since the 2600. I own both the 360, the PS3, and a high-end gaming PC, and I love the Wii. The Wii is the only place I can play great games like Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Sin and Punishment, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, MadWorld, A Boy and His Blob, Zelda, Super Smash Bros, Kirby, Super Paper Mario, Mario Kart, etc, etc. This list goes on. As a matter of fact, I'd say that if you are really serious about playing great games you can't afford not to have a Wii.
  • kwerboom - April 18, 2012 11:53 a.m.

    I loved "Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn" and its expansion pack "Throne of Bhaal". Those were some great games. As for the so-called "Enhanced Edition", this just reeks of a blatant money grab. Looks like they even hired a two-bit loser to rush the trash to market. Even if you don't like a platform or its administrators, you don't talk smack about it. Burning bridges is just unprofessional. Just skip this joker's ripped-off "Enhanced Edition" and buy the originals for PC at gog.com. "Baldur's Gate: Original Saga": http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/baldurs_gate_the_original_saga "Baldur's Gate 2 Complete": http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/baldurs_gate_2_complete
  • The_Boz - April 18, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    "As for the so-called "Enhanced Edition", this just reeks of a blatant money grab." Think this could "coincidentally" coincide with the release of Diablo 3? Baldur's Gate was a brilliant game all those years back and was in competition with Diablo. I am sure Diablo 3 will make a lot of people reminisce.
  • avery78 - April 18, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    I have all 3 consoles and my wii gets used the least but I still use it. As for the comment at the end "if Wii U owners want in, they'll have to pick up a real console like the iPad." The iPad is not a real console. As far as this guy and his game is concerned I agree with statutoryreparez Fuck'em not getting my money.
  • chriszewski - April 18, 2012 12:03 p.m.

    I'm pretty sure he was twisting the knife with that quote. At least, thats how i read it.
  • statutoryreparez - April 18, 2012 10:40 a.m.

    Yeah......never picking this game up. Why? Fuck you thats why. My wii may collect the most dust out of all my console/toys, but this guy is a joke
  • Quint - April 18, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    "Waaah, Nintendo should stop making Mario and Zelda and Metroid forever, they're all the same!" *probably owns every installment of Call of Duty and Halo ever created* Idiots. But I don't blame Beamdog for their position on Nintendo. Them getting no money for putting MDK2 on Wiiware is bull.
  • LOZ4EVAH - April 18, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    MadWorld, No More Heroes 1 and 2, Muramusa, Sin and Punishment, Red Steel 2, Little Kings Story, Boom Blox, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Monster Hunter Tri.....need I continue. 3rd party is there if you look
  • lilbuddha - April 18, 2012 1:41 p.m.

    The majority of those games are better (or would be better) with a traditional controller, making the gimmick of the wii a detriment rather than a help.
  • Fruitbat - April 18, 2012 3 p.m.

    There's some support, but nowhere near as much as other consoles. And it's WiiWare that's really suffering - there are iOS apps that are much bigger than 40MB. It's a shockingly small data limit that seems to ignore the size of the average flash drive and the speed of the modern internet. Sonic 4 Ep. 1 had a grainier soundtrack as a result and Ep. 2 isn't even coming to the system. If I was a dev I wouldn't even consider touching it.
  • KnowYourPokemon - April 18, 2012 8:25 a.m.

    And just like that not a dime of my money will be spent on Baldur's Gate. I had no plans on buying it for the WiiU to begin with but I can't support a company that would act so unprofessional. And that last comment... my god I actually want this game to fail miserably now. Then have a bunch of people flood him with mail saying "Would've bought it if it was on the WiiU"
  • sammyhatfield - April 18, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    wii is not a toy it's a oversized paperweight
  • gopie - April 18, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    an oversized paperweight capable of running netflix

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