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  • digiart247 - December 5, 2012 7:23 p.m.

    I just hope consoles can have no up-scaling and anti-aliasing! the graphics will probably improve but if they upscale and ignore aliasing problems then it will be worthless. PC almost always has options for this even on older games, i feel this is an issue that should have been fixed on consoles this gen. Games like FF XIII and the 2nd one whether or not you like the gameplay and story you have to admit they look gorgeous so I know it is possible this gen. but huge games like say skyrim I would understand they wouldn't have addressed these on current consoles. I think games are great where they are at and next gen if they tweak little issues like this then suspending disbelief will be that much easier!
  • tailsJacks - December 2, 2012 11:04 p.m.

    put black ops with all dlc content on that on a single disk say that its 4-5 player co-op win win
  • Rub3z - December 2, 2012 3:25 p.m.

    "...but it could also transform video games into the most emotionally engaging medium of entertainment." Umm... they already are. Video games are the only medium (seriously, name me another one aside from the possible exception of books, which have been around forever) that have the power to resonate emotions in their audience (the player) on an intimate, actually PERSONAL level, owing to their interactivity. I didn't need to tell this to you or anyone who frequents this site. But I felt that I really needed to after reading a statement such as that one. Honestly, you guys have already said stuff in support of this, see: http://www.gamesradar.com/why-the-notion-that-games-need-photoreal-graphics-to-tell-better-emotional-stories-is-backward-nonsense-whatever-2K-boss-says/ A game, or even a freaking motion picture, does not need to even remotely approach "real" or "photoreal" in order elicit strong, impactful emotional resonance in its audience. And as usual, Mr. Houghton, probably my favorite writer, like, ever, is there to support me. He says it better than I do, so you should read that piece of his if you haven't already.
  • ertywerty - December 1, 2012 11:20 p.m.

    What can we expect from future consoles..... Explosions, Lots of Explosions
  • VashM16 - December 1, 2012 10:02 p.m.

    Don't forget about the completely load-less world in Jak and Daxter TPL! That was so fun, being able to seamlessly travel from place to place.
  • PoisonWar - December 1, 2012 12:03 p.m.

    All I want is great chraracters and writing.
  • RonnyLive19881 - December 1, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    Bump the production costs for each game to about a billion per title and I guess you can have just that GR Lmao I don't see the next generation being that huge of a leap in graphics. Prettier textures, jaw dropping lighting and particle effects will dominate with some new tricks not possible with the old clan but that is about it. Sure, characters will look better and the basguys might react to your playing style in the exact way you don't want them to learning the technique you have used against you in a genius counter attack but really... in the end. They don't have Nintendo game and that is all that matters to me. I may get a PS4 on black Friday 3 years after release like I did the PS3 but until then I will have my Wii U and hopefully all of the PS4's best games are bargain bin prices... although with the way yall make it sound those prices may be what we pay for full price games these days being $120 new Lol
  • RonnyLive19881 - December 1, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    Basguys=bad ass bad guys... that wasn't a typo at all... *cough*
  • gazzc - December 1, 2012 8:50 a.m.

    I would not really have confidence in sticking to nothing but a wii u for the next 4 years, I epxect some great nintendo games will come but there would be so much more you will miss out on and I do not expect it to be a system any serious gamer will use as their main system.
  • RonnyLive19881 - December 1, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    I'm a Nintendo gamer. Pretty much the only games I buy day one, all others I wait for price drops Lol
  • gazzc - December 1, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    Well if you console gamers are hoping to be looking at graphics like that unreal tech demo once sony and microsoft finally decide they have made enough money out of their current ancient hardware then think again. The best you can hope for is likely to be graphical capabilities that should be right about where a mid-range pc is today. The cutbacks that have been made in console gaming in order to keep games running on such old systems are really pushing what is acceptable now, overly narrow FoV's, low detailed textures, barely playable framerates, 720p resolution, tiny draw distances and reduced details have all been used just so they can delay the introduction of new hardware as long as possible. This means that the so called next generation is likely to use most of its increased processing power just to overcome these cutbacks and bring games up to an acceptable image quality. Once this is done then there is just going to be nothing left to actually increase the graphical quality to anything above what is currently available on a PC. Well I suppose they could give you that unreal demo type quality, but expect it to chug along at 12fps...
  • Balaska - December 1, 2012 2:39 a.m.

    "In some ways AI is the final frontier," Bullshit. Go and play Half-Life 1. First time I encountered the spec ops team I hid behind a crate, doing the usual pop out and shoot, suddenly I am shot from behind, from the way I came. I missed a little passage to my left and one of the spec ops had flanked me, got in to point blank range and shot me in the back. Second attempt, I covered all my corners, so they flushed me out with grenades. Valve nailed it over a decade ago. Of course Valve are unaturally talented, but unless they made a pact with the devil, they are still just human.
  • Sjoeki - December 1, 2012 6:16 a.m.

    The first F.E.A.R also had some great AI.
  • Travia220 - November 30, 2012 8:47 p.m.

    Consoles are always going to have load times. Hiding them does not "Remove" them from the game. It also doesn't take a next generation console to hide loading screens. Unless a game world is made 100% Seamless it will have load times. This is something that would have a monumental budget and would never happen. Also, what exactly does Nextgen have to do with better UI's? The fact is the UI for consoles is still going to be a mess of advertisements and MSFT/Sony putting emphasis on other media outlets than just gaming. Nextgen has absolutely nothing to do with "Better" UI's because the processing power isn't needed. Perhaps you might see a shinier UI that uses some hardware accelerated features but in the end it's not going to be anything special and it's not something that can't already be done. As for believable worlds? A world can be the more gorgeous thing you've ever seen but unless there are characters, story and everything feels like it's real or tries to mimic said things then you'll never have believable worlds. Console games tend to ignore the depth needed for said things. Graphics also do not equate to an immersive world. There are plenty of Text Adventures that can suck you in and make you believe the world is alive. Unfortunately, we've gone past that in favour of explosions and thin plots. More intelligent AI isn't just going to spring up because of nextgen. There isn't enough research in AI for Gaming to improve on it. Although the Unreal Bots beating the Turing test is definitely a step in the right direction for lifelike AI. It's just not going to happen. AAA Game budgets are heavily spent on graphics, explosions and over inflated marketing budgets. While more processing power is needed to achieve intelligent AI.. current gen can handle much more intelligent AI. However, trying to challenge your basic idiot gamer isn't going to happen. People like to feel like they are accomplishing something.. the best way to do that is to make a game simple and easy. Even facial animations can be done very well on current gen consoles.. it's just that developers don't want to put the money into it. The only three things I think you may have hit on the head correctly is better mesh work (Models), better textures, more particle effects and lighting. Although do remember that with nextgen aiming for 1080p @60fps you are not going to be able to push eye melting graphics. Especially if the hardware is underpowered. If the Star Citizen developer is to be believed.. well nextgen isn't going to be eye ball melting in terms of power. If you need a glimpse at nextgen then look no further than Star Citizen (he said that this is what nextgen will be able to produce) or Watch Dogs or Star Wars 1313.. all three of these games are what nextgen will be able to do.
  • zombi3grim - November 30, 2012 9:20 p.m.

    So...when can we expect your game to release?
  • amagasakiseb - November 30, 2012 7:21 p.m.

    Why is it suddenly bad to want better graphics? Look back at every single generational leap and you'll see a significant improvement in graphics and the number of triangles/polygons used to make characters, objects and environments. Of course, gameplay is absolutely central to any game but that doesn't mean we can't ask for improved graphics either.
  • TheMariner - November 30, 2012 8:16 p.m.

    It's not bad or wrong to want better graphics per se. It's simply just a knee-jerk reaction to a potentially incorrect perception. Whenever talk of new tech comes up, everyone and their mother seems to crawl out of the woodwork clamoring for increased poly counts or larger, more detailed textures as if graphics were the only thing that mattered to a game. The whole situation is likely exacerbated by the ever-present PC/console comparison wherein, 9 times out of 10, people will cite the inherent increased graphical fidelity of PC as the sole reason for its supremacy.
  • ParagonT - December 1, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    You should read some of my points on the 3rd page, I think that's what he's getting at.
  • lewis-barclay - December 1, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    Agreed. Back on ps2 gta san andreas had terrible graphics even for its TIME but still managed to be amazing. I like great graphics as much as the next guy but if the game is good enough then it wont really matter. Look at final fantasy 13. BEAUTIFUL game but uh in my opinion it was an awful game. About pc gamers, I play on pc and console. I play mainly on the console because most of my friends own one and its easier to game with them on console. Stop whining about how much better pcs are.
  • TheMariner - November 30, 2012 6:09 p.m.

    Honestly, I only care about potential advances in AI. I guess shorter (or a lack of) loading times would be cool too if I were to be picky. I won't lie and say that particle effects, character modelling, and lighting aren't nice but games don't really suffer because of the current tech. Hell, if anything it forces developers to be a bit more creative. And as to that whole PC v. Console thing: Ladies, ladies, calm down. You're both pretty.

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