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PC gamers 'destroyed' console gamers in tests, says Voodoo PC founder

It's been a question in the back of gamers heads for a long time, "Why can't games on 360 and PC play with one another?" On paper it makes total sense, both systems operate on a similar PC architecture, and Xbox Live and Games For Windows were clearly designed to work together. So what's the hold up? Voodoo President Rahul Sood has let lose a little secret about why Xbox 360 gamers and PC gamers can't compete against one another online, and it's not what you might think.

In a blog post on his site, Rahul discussed an alleged Microsoft project that "[...]was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment." During the testing, extremely talented console gamers were pitted against "mediocre" PC gamers in what appears to be some type of shooter. The Xbox gamers used their 360 controllers and the PC gamers used the traditional mouse/keyboard combo. The results?

"The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative."

Sood credited the outcome to the combination of the superior mouse/keyboard setup, and his belief that "You simply don't get the same level of detail or control as you do with a PC over a console."

While Sood is more than a little biased (most people who earn a living selling PCs aren't going to praise the 360), the outcome does seem to make sense. FPSes were born on the PC and were built around mouse/keyboard play. While controllers are fine for most players, the increased accuracy of the mouse/keyboard clearly makes a difference in competitive play, especially at advanced levels. There's also the reality that anyone willing to spend the money and effort  to put together a gaming PC clearly cares enough about games to invest a lot of time into them.


Above: On the left, a PC gamer, on the right, a console player

While console gamers may balk at the accusation, realize that there is a silent majority of 360/PS3 owners who bought the system because it was cheap and they just want to have some fun after work or school. People are infinitely more likely to buy a $199 Xbox 360 on a whim than they are a $1500 gaming PC. They use their 360 for Netflix and Scene It!, and are genuinely looking forward to Kinectimals; in other words, they haven't hit their 5th prestige, nor will they likely ever even know what that is. And when they pick up MW2 or BFBC2 they do it for fun, they aren't interested in making the ideal weapons kit or unlocking every single gun. As a result, the console enviroment can be more forgiving to less talented players, as there is, to put it bluntly, a higher noob to pro ratio. Compare this enviroment to the nightmarishly competitive PC scene, and its clear why, in this case at least, they came out on top.

So on the whole, are PC gamers more talented than console gamers? Given the large number of casual gamers who own consoles and not PCs, probably; but the reality still boils down to an individual's skill, regardless of their system choice. A mouse and keyboard are defintely better, but unless Microsoft decides to let 360 and PC gamers duke it out in the real world, there can never be a definitive answer.

Via CVG

July 22, 2010   

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59 comments

  • MrZervy - March 28, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    This article is completely biased. There so many more gamers on console that, like said above the noob to pro ratio is a lot higher on console than PC? I consider myself a highly skilled console gamer. On CoD I have a 3.4 KD and 7.6 WL. I have played against people who use mouse and keyboard on Xbox and play station and I have dominated them I have also played PC FPS games using a controller. And again dominated. This has nothing to do with hardware. It is purely down to the individual. I cannot use a keyboard and mouse. Give me a controller and I am equally as accurate and as fast as a PC Gamer. Also we are now in 2013. The same thing still stands.
  • MrDo - June 21, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Cool story! Except all the falsified bits about dominating PC FPS players. That's only possible in one of the three following ways: 1) You were dreaming. 2) You were playing on a "controller only" server of some kind (although if that existed I would have logged my Pomeranian in on my PC to walk on you rookie biiiiiiotches). 3) You were playing on a server designed for children six and under. No matter which of the three it was, no one believes you, and you are lame. As lame as that hat in your user pic. As lame as a room full of grown men listening to the Decemberists having tea. As lame as pulling a three year necro on a thread that states -FACTS-. We are the glorious PC gaming master race, and you console peasants still can't accept it? PAH-L-EE-Z! Now get out of my face before I'm forced to smoke you with my Logitech-nine buster. -Do Out-
  • Havikz - June 26, 2013 5:55 a.m.

    "On CoD I have a 3.4 KD" HAHAHA.. You think you can use CoD as a way to brag? 3.4 KD in CoD is like a 0.20 KD in Counter Strike. The best of the best PC gamers will beat the best of the best console players, at ANY FPS without aim assist or stupid killstreaks. It's a simple fact.
  • ryan-carpenter - July 12, 2013 7 p.m.

    Do you even lift
  • Malice - May 9, 2014 7:07 a.m.

    Your a noob console has aim assist play the game without aim assist on pc and you will get trashed. It's not skill when the game "sticks" your aim on someone. The game is doing half the work for you. There alot more punishment for bad aim on pc you can't blame it on anything but yourself. Controls are vastly superior and i noticed then when switching from being console only to pc. Your full of shit i bet you wouldn't even get a 1:1 kdr on pc using a controller and NO AIM ASSIST.
  • slipperydingus - August 23, 2014 5:20 a.m.

    No you wouldn't, you'd be a free kill for everyone on the enemy team. Try playing quake live ranked with a 360 controller, I fucking dare you scrub
  • DigitalFlow - July 26, 2010 11 a.m.

    I think what your failing to understand is that "hardcore" pc gamers are on another level of dedication compared to "hardcore" xbox or consol gamers. and its not about gaining hardware edges.. I consider mysefl a above average PC gamer. consistantly place 1st in Fps and RTS games I play. I dont think I am the best. But I dont constantly upgrade my rig and buy new hardware. I build a system thats top end. and let it Run its course till either games need more hardware, or it dies on its own. @antithos.. his statement was based on testing.. @brett - its been done. PC gamers crush Xbox users. @crabhand - Blizzard has done a decent job of match making system that actually is the first i have seen that ranks not just 1v1, but 2v2 partners, 3v3 .. ect. @thumperman - I think he had a bad choice of words. I am a pc gamer and have many Xbox friends I would consider competative, heck Xbox gamers probably enjoy 2x as many tournaments and compatitions as pc gamers. Mostly due to the fact its alot cheaper to put on a 100 player xbox tourny at your local lan center then a PC tourny.
  • axelgarcia1 - July 26, 2010 2:56 a.m.

    i can see why pcs are better at fps but i like controller better
  • neilmike - July 26, 2010 12:27 a.m.

    most stupid review and i dont give a ass about who played better...no time for this
  • Ruvalc - July 25, 2010 3:28 a.m.

    im a PC and PS3 gamer n i chop ppl up in the ps3 but in the pc im an pro am i actually prefer pc better then my ps3 but i play ps3 more cuz it'z expensive keeping your computer in the best shape...
  • TURbo - July 25, 2010 2:17 a.m.

    @GreyGhost Holy shit. SF 4 on keyboard is impossible to do ultra combo. Why can't 360 offer keyboard and mouse support?
  • NorthGuard - July 24, 2010 7:13 a.m.

    I prefer PC games for this reason. Kind of a pointless test though.
  • Zeipher - July 24, 2010 3:33 a.m.

    Lets be honest, PC gamers are also more likely to be playing out of their parent's basements. You don't have a $3000 rig without taking a hit somewhere.
  • wormytables - July 24, 2010 1:16 a.m.

    i have to echo the sentiment that only a few of (at the time of writing) 47 commenters have made as this: the study does not confirm that pc gamers are 'better' than console gamers. In fact, as the article says, they put GOOD console gamers against MEDIOCRE pc gamers - this means it's the HARDWARE which allowed the pc gamers to win. the major difference between m/k and controller is that the analog stick is a 'speed' based control system, you move it so far and your guy starts to turn at the corresponding speed. the mouse is a 'positional' based system, you move it so far, your guy moves so far... this means controlling a character on console involves seeing where you want to fire, translating that into how far you need to move the stick and for how long, and getting that fine control (a matter of fractions of a millimeter) right. Controlling an fps with a mouse is just 'how far left/right' = 'how far to move the mouse it's easier and more intuitive.
  • IKANDYMANI - July 23, 2010 5:04 p.m.

    Shooters*
  • IKANDYMANI - July 23, 2010 5:03 p.m.

    I am a console gamer who has played pc shoots and i agree that they are better. But i've broken my fingers so many times that i dont have the finger dexterity to play them which is a shame.
  • Hayseyboy - July 23, 2010 4:01 p.m.

    Yeah... I don't think PC gamers are all that, sure there are hardcore gamers but 80% of pc gamers play MMORPG's, that's not very hardcore now is it? :)
  • guillotinedream - July 23, 2010 1:01 p.m.

    @DarthCockels Amen! In regards to the article I don't think there really needed to be a study. I would say shadowrun was proof enough. The mouse provides you with almost instant 180 degree turns. An analog stick just can't do that. People say the mouse is more precise but it is precision AND speed that give the mouse the upper hand. Controllers can be fast or accurate but when you want speed you sacrifice accuracy and vice versa.
  • Seabread - July 23, 2010 12:35 p.m.

    So just release a mouse/keyboard setup for consoles. the reason the two don't work well together in terms of 'fairness' has nothing to do with player ability or dedication to games (there are still plenty of people on MW for 360/ps3 who've prestiged) it's the medium by which they're forced to interact with the game ie. controllers versus mouse/keyboard. if pc owners were forced into playing with controllers or console owners were given the option of keyboard/mouse there wouldn't be an issue. this is a moot point. the article is biased and misleading and i HATE the mandatory superiority complex of PC gamers. Their priorities are all out of whack given there's no reward for winning. I play console games to have fun first and foremost. granted there's a need to be competitive to have fun but being competitive doesn't necessarily guarantee a good time.
  • DarthCockels - July 23, 2010 10:49 a.m.

    I used to play on the PC exclusively and eventually couldn't afford to keep up with a new graphics card, memory, and what not. So I dumbed it down and bought a 360. Sacraficed server size, fun teams, great lobbies, and fun clans for stupid fuck 13 yr old racsist babies that declare their love of weed and hatred of anything black, mexican, gay, or jewish. And god forbid you just bought the game and are learning how to play. A PC gamer will walk you through things. A console gamer will tend to tell you about how he railed your (insert family member here) until they were farting bubalicous should you ask any question for any reason ever. Why after 4 years would I still be on XBL? Because there is nothing greater than taking a shit on one of the above mentioned ignorant young men. Nothing major really but hearing the word combinations they feel free to toss around stun and amuse me. I've also learned something from all of this. The ability to speak to others without consequence over the internet has pretty much turned every male between the ages of 6 and 18 into a raging douche. In short PC gamers are a smarter and more civil breed. Kind of ranty but that was all just kind of floating about my head as I was reading the article. Well I need to jump on CODMW2 for a bit; I haven't been told how much I love cock yet today by a squeaky voice with a blackcent. God bless you suburban America!

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