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  • PatHan-bHai - June 26, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    All this for a map? What's the world coming too :/ Oh! And Ellie to me looked nothing like Ellen Page.
  • zelta38 - June 26, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Agreed, she's definitely getting a lot of publicity with this though.
  • winner2 - June 26, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    10 dollars for the person who can remember this guy's name 3 months from now
  • shawksta - June 25, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    There's this and the issue with Ellen Page apparently not liking that Ellie looks exactly like her, lets hope both gets resolved, we don't need problems on a fantastic game
  • BladedFalcon - June 25, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    The Ellen Page is a Non-issue. She just made the comment but she's not doing anything about it. And heck, working with Sony on Beyond: Two Souls, they WON'T let her do anything and by now she probably has been scolded. The last thing Sony wants is to be infighting or bad blood between studios. 'Sides, Ellie really doesn't don't look EXACTLY like Ellen Page, she might be an obvious inspiration, but in any legal court of law, Page wouldn't have any case whatsoever. So again, it's a non-issue.
  • Bloodstorm - June 25, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    Agreed. When I saw Ellie, sure, I thought she looked like Ellen Page too, but there is absolutely nothing anyone could do about it. She looks as much like Ellen Page as she doesn't, and has never been billed as being Ellen Page, so it's not like they stole her likeness.
  • shawksta - June 25, 2013 5:54 p.m.

    Frankly its too retarded to seem an issue, she's already leading Beyond 2 souls and voices Ellie, I really don't see a problem but hey personal preference
  • BladedFalcon - June 25, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    ...She doesn't voice Ellie >_>
  • shawksta - June 26, 2013 2:12 a.m.

    My bad, the shenanigans about her back then made me think she was in both games
  • Redeater - June 26, 2013 12:01 a.m.

    I don't think the Ellen Page is an issue. Ashley Johnson provided the perfect amount of sarcasm, vulnerability and sympathy. Take Ellie's last scene in the game, insert Ellen Page's blank cynical stare and imagine the same heartbreaking dialogue delivered in her the same way she has voiced every character ever.....from Trailer Park Boys......to Hard Candy.....to Juno.... While we are at it, let's put Nic Cage as Joel. "NOT THE SPORES!!!!"
  • shawksta - June 26, 2013 2:12 a.m.

    Redeater you glorious bastard
  • Redeater - June 26, 2013 2:51 a.m.

    Every once in a while I get out a good one......when I'm not incoherently hammering out rage filled tangents. :)
  • ZeeCaptain - June 25, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    This is really stupid, the map creator should go shove it, hell he should be fucking happy, it's not like anyone in or out of Mass. really gave a fuck that he was the map's creator, or who he even is. It's like someone being proud because they wrote that little manual that comes with your toaster, that manual that you leave in the box and recycle, and then the manual showed up in a game and he just had to bitch about it.
  • austinfloyd85 - June 25, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    He probably put a lot of time into that, and a lot of thought into making it streamlined. And then it gets used without his permission and he doesn't get paid for it? Of course he would be mad. I would be pissed. Try to design something that's pleasing to the eye, easily readable, and informative and then tell me he was just bitching about it. You know nothing about the work that goes into that kind of stuff, so you should be the one to shove it. You're an idiot with no sense of what kind of work goes into these kind of things.
  • ZeeCaptain - June 26, 2013 4:52 a.m.

    I'm sure the people that make milk cartons are caught up in their work too, but this guy has no right to be pissed off, first it's unlikely he worked alone on the map for the mass. transit system, second, people use other media such as picture, maps, documents, without permission in games, and media. I'm sure that Picasso turns over in his grave every time a painting of his is used without the permission of whichever museum is in possession of it. The point is that this guy is nothing more than one of the assholes here that troll for attention, he saw a drawing he made last year used in a popular video game and wanted to take credit, it was obvious he wasn't interested in suing or getting compensation, or even real recognition, as his name is no more public than it really was before, sure now he will be remembered as "that guy who made a fuss over a map" and maybe that's all he wanted and now he is happy and can go back to making the 2014 mass. public transit map.
  • austinfloyd85 - June 26, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    Dude, he's a cartographer. Not a worldwide known artist. It's not the lack of recognition, it's the principle of using his work without permission. Naughty Dog is a huge company, who made one of the best games of all time. And they didn't ask him if they could use his work. How is that okay? He should make a fuss about it, because what they did is illegal.
  • ZeeCaptain - June 26, 2013 4:12 p.m.

    All i'm saying is that the games industry doesn't need this kind of bull, all it does is put the fear of god and lawsuits into the devs and makes them walk on eggshells for the rest of their lives. The Last of Us is a amazing game, they wanted to make the games setting to be Mass. obviously it's hard to picture what the real Mass. would be like after an apocalyptic event so the least they can do is add little tidbits of reality, such as a metro map, but no someone has to get huffy about how it's violating his rights. What they did is technically wrong in the eyes of the law, but how far should something like this go, it's already something has has to affect the games creation, what happens when other people see this sort of thing going on and somewhere down the line companies like Bethesda are getting sued because and architect in Boston saw they used a building that looks like the one he made. Yes this is a law, yes Naughty Dog is in the wrong, but this is juvenile, it's a map that this man worked on and did a nice job color coating etc... but it's a public service, it's to help the people of Mass. with their daily travels and it's ridiculous this guy wants credit for it being in a game, something that you can pass by without noticing, what happens if someone passing by in the background of a news interview has the map in their hands, is the guy going to sue the news channel . I'm an ass for being insensitive to this guy's blight but I don't sympathize with him, if anything I fell bad that Naughty Dog has to put up with something like this, it only makes their jobs harder.
  • austinfloyd85 - June 26, 2013 7:28 p.m.

    Game publishers should walk on eggshells so they don't steal. He has his work stolen, and he's the one overreacting? And this isn't a case of it LOOKING like his map, it IS his map. And it's not a public service, it's a job. He made this piece of art and expects the correct measures to be taken for that to be recognized. Naughty Dog is a multi-million dollar studio; this guy designs maps for what I imagine to be a small salary. It's their job as artists to make sure that they aren't stealing crap and putting it in their game. It would be different if they had asked permission and gave him the credit he deserves, that could have landed him job offers from other cities and organizations, but just putting it in the game is not only illegal, but unethical. I'm not saying it's an end of the world thing, but it's a dick move, even if unintentional.
  • ZeeCaptain - June 26, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    OK look at it this way, the map is a utility not a creative property, so in that aspect he doesn't own it, for he didn't think up the idea he just wrote it down.
  • austinfloyd85 - June 26, 2013 10:32 p.m.

    He did think of the idea. If someone creates a new model of car, would you say they didn't come up with that idea because there were cars before it? No. He may not have the rights to it because he sold it, but he's still credited as the creative force behind the project.

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