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  • BladedFalcon - July 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Would "N" from Pokemon Black & White count? He does come across as simply misguided and manipulated, but he definitely had a point on his views that most Pokemon trainers basically treat their Pokemon as slaves to fight for their own amusement... A point that Nintendo and Game Freak vehemently try to deny or nullify by saying "But nooo! look! all trainers treat Pokemon with love and as their friends!" Even though it's obvious that the former is often the truth, specially if we go meta, and look at most Pokemon players' intentions >>
  • BipolarTroll - July 20, 2013 9:15 p.m.

    You make a great point. Trainers can claim love and friendship but as long as they are pitting Pokemons against each other in an all out fight until one it knocked out....they are just hypocrites. THIS LIST NEEDS TO BE REDONE!!
  • Trollkitten - March 28, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    ...except that for some strange reason, Pokemon actually bond with their trainers over battling... and as Red said in the Pokemon Adventures manga, "You gotta battle 'em to EVOLVE them!" I personally view the "battling" thing as sort of like training a potential guerrilla force in case of villainous groups. Have you ever noticed that few of the villain groups in the modern Pokemon world last long enough to actually win? Now, if the majority of Pokemon trainers were evil, then that would be a different story... But, then, with Mew, the presumed ancestor of most if not all Pokemon, being a psychic-type, and the Lake Trio, also psychic-types, being associated with all beings' mental and emotional attributes, it's entirely possible that psychic-type Pokemon (and perhaps even Pokemon in general) secretly have a much larger role in human behavior on Pokearth than the humans realize. It might explain why cults like Team Aqua and Team Magma spring up, and why Team Galactic was able to capture the presumably all-knowing Uxie, who, if it really did contain all knowledge in its mind, surely knew that it and its siblings would be able to put a stop to Cyrus' evil plan with the help of two young kids (heck with it, maybe one of the Lake Trio hypnotised Cyrus into giving the player the Master Ball). Of course, it's hard to say what a Pokemon's psyche is like, us obviously seeing things thoroughly from a human viewpoint.
  • Trollkitten - March 28, 2014 8:04 a.m.

    Remember, N's world is mostly populated by NPCs. Of course the NPCs behave with love and affections towards their Pokemon, because they were programmed to. XD
  • FoxdenRacing - July 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Even if this had turned out to be an awful article [which it didn't, that was a fun read], I'd have to give props if only because you managed to make any sort of sense out of the Soul Calibur story. Also, mucho props for remembering Kirby screwing the pooch in his NES outing. Any luck we could get the other variants of this..."Heroes who are worse than the villain", "Villains that don't give us a reason to hate them", and "Heroes that don't give us a reason to like them"?
  • BladedFalcon - July 18, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    I really like those ideas you propose. Though why do I get the feeling that you just want Killzone to be mentioned? :P
  • shawksta - July 18, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Awesome list, Merlina and the entire plot for Black Knight was interesting but too bad the actual game was massive heap of crap. Dedede is basically a jerk at times but otherwise he's innocent most of the times, I still remember when Kirby automatically went to Dedede castle when his cheese cake got stolen in Squeak Squad XD
  • g1rldraco7 - July 18, 2013 6:41 a.m.

    Need to finish Mortal Kombat and Soul Caliber V.
  • CitizenWolfie - July 18, 2013 5:56 a.m.

    The Colossi. 'Nuff said. I can't believe you guys got all that from Soul Calibur V. The story was so convoluted and ridiculous that I ended up skipping everything past the first couple of chapters.
  • Frieza - July 18, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    You know a story in a fighting game is bad when half of the roster isn't included or mentioned anywhere. That, and being more interested in an annoying girl's love life than the fate of the world.
  • CitizenWolfie - July 19, 2013 12:53 a.m.

    I don't get Namco lately. In almost any other fighting game series the rosters get bigger and bigger with new characters being added all the time. Street Fighter hardly bothers with story anymore since we don't need a justification to fight. Tekken 5 and Soul Calibur 5 both changed characters, switched up moves and combos that have been locked for years and added totally crappy story modes focusing entirely on new characters. Mortal Kombat 9 was the only fighting game that's ever got a story mode right IMO.
  • Trollkitten - March 28, 2014 8:10 a.m.

    I don't really play fighting games, but I am a writer (mostly of fanfiction and knee-jerk opinions), and I have a thought on this: Given how long the rosters for some fighting games are, it might actually make it even worse to try to cram EVERYONE into the story whether it makes sense or not.
  • Mr.YumYums - July 18, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    This. I can't believe they didn't mention the Colossi.
  • Clovin64 - July 18, 2013 4:34 p.m.

    Hmm... I don't really think the colossi can really be considered "villains". That Dormin was a bit of a dick though, eh?
  • Euangelion - July 18, 2013 8:28 p.m.

    You're definitely right about the Colossi. You cannot consider them villains. They are certainly antagonists, as they are stopping Wander from achieving his goal, but they aren't malicious about it. They are simply stopping Wander from kill them. If the Colossi die, they fail their one and only purpose in life: Stopping Dormin from being resurrected. Now on the subject of Dormin being a villain, I don't think you can consider him one. Sure Dormin was split into 16 pieces, locked in a castle, then the entire land was sealed so no one could get to him, but we don't know why all that happened. And despite what happens to Wander at the end, Dormin still keeps his end of the bargain. The only way Dormin can be considered a villain is in the fact that he is self-centered and looks out for his own interests. That been said, yes he is a dick XD.
  • CitizenWolfie - July 19, 2013 12:48 a.m.

    They can't be considered villains by the time you finish the game but at the start at least we're told there's a great evil lurking in the Forbidden Lands and when a God tells you to go forth and slay the beasts it's natural to assume they're the bad guys. It's only until you start to notice Wander's change in appearance that you realise something is wrong.
  • BipolarTroll - July 20, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    Lol everyone is making FANTASTIC suggestions. REDO THE LIST!! And I'm not gonna lie, SC5 had a shitty plot, but I made out the general point: Swords = BAD.
  • m3ld0n - July 18, 2013 5:49 a.m.

    The aliens on HL1 area agressive because the were being controlled by the combine with some kind of collar.
  • Swedish_Chef - July 18, 2013 4:26 a.m.

    Scorpion isn't considered a villain in the new MK though, he only kills Sub-Zero 1 because he was tricked by Quan-chi into thinking that Sub-Zero slaughtered his clan and Sub-Zero 1 is portrayed as an asshole in canon especially as Noob Saibot. It should also be noted that in Injustice's character select screen he's placed with the members of the cast that are commonly considered as heroes.
  • ObliqueZombie - July 18, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    I think it's how they're perceived by the masses. Read Scorpion's little paragraph and it explains it. I don't care for MK in the slightest, but that backstory was cool as shit,

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