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  • The_Ouroboros - July 19, 2013 9:01 p.m.

    This whole list is spoilers, so I'm not overstepping my bounds. But just in case... *Mass Effect Spoilers* I'm surprised the Geth aren't on this list. Throughout the first Mass Effect they're perceived as villainous. They were synthetics created for slave labor by the Quarians, who after they got too smart for their own good were attempted to be systematically wiped out, along with their sympathizers. Then the Geth fought back, and destroyed the Quarians to such an extent that they were reduced to a travelling Armada of Gypsies. It even states in their Codex that they wreak havoc on the economy whenever they enter a galaxy. After you get Legion in 2, he continuously stresses they didn't want to fight, that they want co-existence with their creators, and only retaliated as would any intelligent life would with capability to defend itself. But all of this is seen from the perspective of the Quarians trying to get their planet back, and it's only if you have enough reputation that you can have both coexist on the 3rd. You can wipe out the Quarians, sure, but that's still not what the Geth were going for. And then even the Reapers could be seen as sympathetic, despite the ones who you come across happening to be dicks. But think about it, they're just universal balancers of the ecosystem, making sure no species holds a dominant stranglehold over other species. They are sentient, and in their eyes you're like a hive of bees trying to sting you to death, but they can communicate with you. They've been doing this dance of several iterations now, and you're just stepping out of line. They are doing what they consider to be the galaxy a service, and it's true! You think the Protheans would have ever let the Asari study their tech? Or the Salarian frogs to evolve? Shepard, despite your feelings to how the ending played out, only really ensured that the existing species will be the main ruling classes for the rest of that galaxy's existence. And who's going to communicate with the Leviathan now? What's to say they don't rise up and take over now that the Reapers aren't maintaining galactic balance via systemic genocide anymore?
  • mothbanquet - July 23, 2013 7:11 a.m.

    I'm going to point out the Catch 22 with the geth, and why their end was necessary - either what Legion told you was true, and the geth are simply machines capable only of cold logic, sparing the quarians not through benevolence but through lack of practical need, and therefore killing all geth was justified on account of them simply being said machines. Or... The geth achieved true sentience and therefore everything Legion said was suspect (he even lied and deceived you during the course of ME3) and the geth cannot be trusted. Their willingness to ally with the Reapers to destroy sentient life, even in desperation, showed their fundamental differences to traditional organic life, and so killing all geth is justified on account of their motives that cannot possibly co-exist with organic ones in any way. Either way, the geth are enemies of all organic races and are bastards, no matter how awesome their visual design was. I love the geth question. :)
  • The_Ouroboros - July 24, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    The only thing I didn't like about them was their design... And I thought that acting out of self-preservation, and allying with the only species that could understand them, was the exact same thing any organic would do. And also, they were indoctrinated just like the other species, only they'd had more to lose and didn't happen to become disfigured like the rest of the species did. You still have to go into their mainframe to free them, and afterwards they again made peace with the Quarians. Have to lose a series where different sides are defendable!
  • Pruman - March 26, 2014 3:16 p.m.

    I was about to type exactly this until I read your post. The Geth are my personal favorite example of this, as they subvert practically every trope about sci-fi killer robots who turn on their creators. Learning more about them through Legion was awesome, and reuniting them with the Quarians was my favorite part of ME3. It's kind of neat how they become sympathetic figures after the first game trains you to hate them.
  • tehtimeisnow - July 19, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    what abuot angrey birds? the pigs is just misudnerstod
  • BipolarTroll - July 20, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    LOL DAMN STRAIGHT! THE REAL VILLAINS SHOULD BE FUCKIN HUMANS!!
  • tichtat - July 19, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Well, technically speaking, in AC3 the only Revolutionary era Templar that was actually more than just a Templar and kind of an asshole was Charles Lee. Everyone else actually made good points, they were just too dickish to bring others around to their point of view.
  • RajXenoeph - July 19, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    i thought it was quan-chi was the one who had actually killed scorpions clan?
  • slimjim441 - July 20, 2013 5 p.m.

    It was Quan Chi, but he framed the original Sub-Zero. Scorpion killed that Sub-Zero. Quan Chi resurrected him as Noob Saibot and his younger brother became the new Sub-Zero to avenge the death of his brother. It's like a soap opera, but with ninjas. And who honestly cares about the story in the first place.
  • The_Ouroboros - July 24, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    ...Because it's a soap opera, but with NINJAS?
  • slimjim441 - July 24, 2013 11:46 p.m.

    Hell yeah, man. But now I've come to the conclusion that a legit ninja soap-opera needs to happen. It will be called 'One Life to Die.' I'll have to hand off the writing to someone else, otherwise I'll just end up making a sitcom where all 7 ninjas are total bros who live in the same apartment building are really rambunctious neighbors to Raiden and Shao Khan who live together and work in the same mall together; it would be like 'The Odd Couple' mixed with 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.'
  • The_Ouroboros - July 25, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    "One Life To Take." The story of a ninja who became rogue because he was sent to assassinate the daughter of his greatest rival, and along the way he fell in love and taught her the ways of the Shinobi. They team up with a travelling hobo Samurai, looking for honor wherever he can find it. Going by the name of "Homeless Wan," The Samurai has taken up the mantle of hunting down his old Drunken Master. Bam. Go from there.
  • slimjim441 - July 25, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    Wow, I wasn't expecting someone to have a knowledge of kung-fu movies as extensive as mine. Bravo.
  • sadowolf - March 7, 2014 7:35 p.m.

    I'd watch the hell out of that soap.
  • Trollkitten - March 28, 2014 7:26 a.m.

    You, sir or madam, win the Internet.
  • FoxdenRacing - March 26, 2014 8:22 a.m.

    And this is what they mean by the plotline being mental. Quan didn't exist until MK4, and until then it was straight-up "My Name is, uhh, I forget so just call me Scorpion. You kill my family, prepare to die."
  • tomasz-szymanek - July 19, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    Master from Fallout 1. He really meant that he was creating new, better world.
  • Effexor - July 19, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Marleen from the firefly's or is that too obvious?
  • Fireninjastar - July 19, 2013 6:50 a.m.

    Then again, King Dedede was a villain, like, twice? Kirby's been the villain since then. He unleashed a demon via star rod, when Meta Knight and Dedede tried to stop him :V
  • JHidden - July 18, 2013 10:03 p.m.

    While not a main villain, Mustafa from Fire Emblem Awakening, he attacks you and your army, but because if he doesnt Gangrel would kill his family, he even lets his own soldiers defect if they dont feel right about attacking you, and when you defeat him he asks you to let his soldiers go.... which only made me feel worse for I had killed all his army before advancing to face him
  • Euangelion - July 18, 2013 8:54 p.m.

    *WARNING POTENTIAL SPOILERS FROM PERSONA 3 AND 4* The editors and writers of GamesRadar should definitely add Erebus and Nyx from Persona 3 and Izanami from Persona 4 (with Erebus and Nyx together). Now I know what some might be thinking, 'Aren't they unrepentantly evil in cases?" And you're right, they are. At the same time however, they aren't. They are simply responding to humanity's desires. In the case of Persona 3, Erebus is responding humanity's wanting to die, and Nyx is simply bringing that about as Erebus' harbinger. In Persona 4, Izanami is responding to humanity's willingness to have the truth covered up and hidden in exchange for sweet lies and comforting deceit. They are simply doing a favour for humanity and end getting killed for it by a small group of teens. From this perspective they deserve to be on this list. (I also want to point out that that logic is a fallacy. It makes them sympathetic no doubt, but it's still a fallacy).

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