9 things real female gamers hate about gaming

Having a vag doesn't mean our thumbs don't work

Words: on March 27, 2010

You've seen the stereotypes. The "GRRL" girl, the "Yeah,-I'm-a-girl,-but-I'll-kick-your-ass" girl, the "celebugamer." While these girls do exist, hey, there're us regular-type girls who play videogames, too. Most of the gamer chicks you see promoting themselves on the internet love attention more than gaming, or are paid to adopt that stereotypical “girl gamer” persona, but what about the rest of us girls –  the ones who actually play videogames? We’re stealthily walking among you like ninjas – and man, do we have a lot to hate about gaming.

Contributors: Lizzie Cuevas, Cheryll Del Rosario


1. "Well, you don't LOOK like a gamer..."

Why, because I showered? See how stereotypes feel? We’re just as varied as anyone else, but most assume we must be hideously grotesque heifers who lose controllers into the folds of our fat palms like we’re made of coconut-scented quicksand. Unless, of course, we’re wearing Fragdolls T-shirts or Zelda tramp stamps, which is the other acceptable female gamer stereotype.


Above: Thanks – FOR NOTHING 


Above: Obvs a grrl gamer 

We don't all wear our love for videogames on our sleeves, just like we're sure you don't wear videogame novelty shirts every day... right? Right?


2. Honey, we've heard them all before

So you're playing an online game, and you hear yet another prepubescent boy over your headset... but wait, that's no boy! It's a girl! So naturally, you tell her to go back to the kitchen. Funny. Slap yourself on the wrist, you bad, bad boy. Your three seconds of stand-up was only funny the first time, when the other douchebag said it six matchmaking lobbies ago. No one laughed then, either, and no one’s laughing now… probably because you sound fat.


3. We don’t always want to talk about videogames

Great, you met a girl who plays videogames – now you can ALWAYS talk about videogames with her! False. Just because we share a common interest doesn’t mean we don’t have other interests, too, and we know you also have other interests.

Guys love to dumb themselves down to ask us videogame-related questions, just for the novelty of talking to a girl about videogames. We’re not Google, asshat. And don’t condescend, there’s nothing worse. That said…


4. Not interested!

Just because we’re interested in videogames doesn’t mean we’re interested in you. Once word gets out that there’s a female gamer in the vicinity, guys lose their shit. We’re forced to leave our headsets muted when playing online to avoid the inevitable “So, do you have a boyfriend?” We wanna play the damn game, not hook up with you, kthx. Want a hook-up? Go to…


5. GameCrush

Earlier this week, GameCrush’s public beta was launched. The service enables male gamers to pay to play with attractive female gamers (“PlayDates”). The guys can choose to have their experience be either “flirty” or “dirty.” Ew. This kind of objectification of female gamers just furthers the idea that real female gamers don't exist, or that if they play, they must be ugly.


6. Most of us don't actually like "chick" games

Because they're all stupid. Either the Lisa Frank-esque box art reeks of pastels, or the game’s title is misspelled, or there’s some combination of the two. Wait, you mean you MEANT to put a 'z' at the end of the game? Oh, howz cutez!!!!1 Tell the LOLcat who works at your company we don’t need literal reassurance that your game isn’t Call of Duty.


Above: Girlzzzz gamezzzz zzz 

Above: NOW it's a girl's game! 

And while Cooking Mama is fun and all, why do most cooking games have a chick on the cover? Piss off and cook your own damn meal.


Above: The sad reality (thanks to AJ Glasser for the Papa concept)


7. Stupid female character outfits

We realize games are largely based in fantasy, but could character designers get a little more creative with how they clothe their females? Male characters in games get tricked-out armor suits, iconic headgear (Master Chief comes to mind) and outfits that fit their surroundings. Meanwhile, female characters are left with only sashes and a smile.


Above: More of Samus, less of… the other stuff 


8. Yes, Paul Ryan, we do hate going into videogame stores

Don’t get us wrong – we get excited with each purchase of a new game. (After all, we do love shopping~!!! LOL!!) But we hate going into a videogame store, only to be directed to the Nintendo section or have the employees look at us like some lost sheep who strayed away from our boyfriends. Bitch, this copy of Halo is MINE.


9. Grrrl Gamers and anything relating to "female gaming empowerment"

Which kind of implies that we hate this article, but it is GamesRadar’s Week of Hate, so maybe we do. HATE!

Just because we're girls who enjoy spending hours in front of a TV pressing buttons, that does not mean we need to join your community, blog, Facebook group or Twitter-feed-sorority-clustershart of gaming-girl goodness. We like playing games. We are girls. These things don't necessarily need to be tied together, nor do we feel the need to have special treatment because we’re both. And if we happen to want to spend 31 hours perfecting our chopping techniques in Cooking Mama instead of having an equally enjoyable Modern Warfare 2 estrogen-fest against the boys, we shouldn't be considered less of a gamer than you.

Mar 26, 2010

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  • EMMAmoi

    EMMAmoi  - 6 months, 3 weeks ago  - Report

    i effing love this article, story of my life...
    little boys talking dirty to me and trying to be funny, go to the kitchen jokes, yes.. ha ha. but it doesn't irritate me as much as when I join a lobby in mw2, a boy asks _my friend_ am I a girl... too afraid to talk straight to a girl, so u have to ask someone else...coward. and when I kill the whole enemy team in SD, why does everyone make such a big deal about it? woooow it's a girl, she can play?? NO SHIT SHERLOCK.
    and why the fuck do some girls make a big deal of themselves cuz they're girls and they play mw2? it's pathetic.
    honey, I just play cuz I love mw2 :)
  • sabelleconradi

    sabelleconradi  - 1 year, 1 month ago  - Report

    Oh my god, I got to say, this article made me laugh so hard.

    I get crap all the time for being a girl gamer, it really sucks. I'm a hardcore gamer too, been playing since I was 4, games like Tenchu, Tekken, Abe's Odyssey, and Crash Bandicoot. I am not bad. I'm better than 75% of the boys I come across in MW2, and that's a lot of boys.

    Seriously though, most all of this is extremely true. Great job to whoever wrote this. :D
  • killerhi5

    killerhi5  - 1 year, 6 months ago  - Report

    i totally agree with this article i can never play my 360 cause my girlfriend and sister are playing and are better than me at hALO 3 which is sorta annoying...... people freak out whenever me and my girlfriend play online and it gets extremly annoying ( everyone is like ya dude u gopt a girl gamer as a grilfreind.... me: SHUTUP!!)
  • ClassicCreation

    ClassicCreation  - 1 year, 6 months ago  - Report

    I'm sorry GR community. I was GOING to write a very positive comment about this article, but then I got sidetracked by the need to angrily respond to Badfishtoo's post.

    Has it ever occurred to you that she wasn't talking about YOU? Has it ever occurred to you that just because Lizzie was generalizing women as one, she did not deny the fact that some of them may be different and that some of them may enjoy the very things she stated in this list?

    She may not be the voice of all female gamers, but I strongly believe that MOST female gamers would accept this article as a statement in their name.You may be an exception, but ONCE AGAIN, she did not specifically say that all female gamers would agree with her.

    As for the video game talk, if you love talking about video games non-stop, it's a little weird (which incidentally is why it's on the list as one the of the things female gamers hate, because well, no one can talk about video games ALL THE TIME), but no one's complaining about YOUR fondness for it. You're taking this too personally and I'm starting to feel like I'm speaking to an exceptionally well-versed toddler, because of the number of times I have to repeat myself. Again, this article was not dedicated to you specifically. One more time. This article was not dedicated to you specifically. NOT TO YOU. N-O-T T-O Y-O-U.

    Oh and "this kind of garbage does more harm than good?" Oh yes, raising male awareness of things that female gamers don't like is definitely bad for women as a whole! I mean what are you people going to do when all those sexist, masochistic, pigs are gone? Who's going to harass you then?!?!?!?! Oh my God, it's a crisis.

    And seperatist stunt? Yes, that's yet another good point. Uniting female gamers against sexism and stereotypes is a really, REALLY bad thing to do. It seperates all of those...you know...those...I mean there must be...oh wait, I got one! It seperates female gamers who like to be respected, from female gamers who like to be abused! But then COME ON, who really wants to be united with people who enjoy abuse? Again with the repeating; If you're interested, I could probably turn this whole comment into a 3 line nursery rhyme that you could contemplate while you're in the bathtub with your rubber duckies.

    And if by saying "fellow woman (women)," you meant yourself, (which I wouldn't doubt based on the nature of your comment) then you don't need to worry, we already know she's superior to you.

    And before you go bashing someone else's work, why don't you try to write something worthwhile that is of this quality?

    Oh, and one last thing, saying you probably play more than she does? Look at who you're talking to. It's part of her job to play games, but perhaps you're just a great example of the fact that literacy is not equivalent to intelligence. Let me explain; Lizzie works for GAMESRADAR a site that offers video game NEWS, FEATURES, PREVIEWS and REVIEWS. She plays LOTS of VIDEO GAMES. Was that clear enough for you, or do I need to dumb it down a bit more?

    Just a quick tip before I go. I hear there's a new "My little Ponyzz" game coming out. Yes, with the added "z." It's EXTRA special!

    Now, why don't you go back to watching cartoons? You are irrelevant.

    End Of Rant


    PS:
    I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO, SOOOOOOOOO sorry GR community. People who are that disrespectful and ignorant just make me extremely angry. Again, I'm sorry for blemishing your amazing article with such negativity. =( I just felt that it had to be done.
  • Raheria

    Raheria  - 1 year, 8 months ago  - Report

    Great article! I wouldn't even call myself a 'real' gamer (I love my PS2 and very rarely play anything without 'Final Fantasy' stuck on the front) but I'd rather go without any sort of stereotype.

    Do I lick controllers? Totally. All the time. Can't get enough of that lingering plastic taste.
  • badfishtoo

    badfishtoo  - 1 year, 8 months ago  - Report

    Wow, I am baffled as to how you, the author, think this is helping things.

    First off, you're not the voice and authority of "real" gamer girls. I'm one of those so called "grrls", and I DO believe in solidarity and bringing gamer girls together so we can improve our visibility and find like minded souls to play with. Does that make me less real? I probably play more than you do, with a broader range of genres. I also LOVE talking video games NON STOP ALL THE TIME and I LOVE visiting my local GameStop, where I'm always given respect.

    You're not our voice. In fact, this kind of garbage does more harm than good. Just by writing this, you've pulled a separatist stunt that will only contribute to the problem. If there's anything wrong with the state of women in gaming, it's stuff like this, where someone sets out to deliberately demean and undermine her fellow woman as a means of making herself seem superior.

    What trite garbage.
  • KawaiiNekoRose

    KawaiiNekoRose  - 1 year, 9 months ago  - Report

    I agree with all of this and frankly see it as the truth. >x< We "REAL" girl gamers shouldn't be stereotyped the way that we are. TT^TT
  • l4d2survivor

    l4d2survivor  - 1 year, 9 months ago  - Report

    Also the person before me has a point. Men are stereotyped as much as women, whether they are "real" gamers, casual, or whatever. You even use the fat stereotype in this article. And you expect people to not stereotype you? Golden rule, girl.
  • l4d2survivor

    l4d2survivor  - 1 year, 9 months ago  - Report

    I'm a girl gamer (a REAL one), and I actually don't like this article.

    First of all, studies have shown that a lot of the artists that design the revealing girl costumes are in fact female. This is because of a plain and simple fact; sex sells. And women know that.

    And I love going to the video game store. At our local GameStop, 3 of the 5 or 6 employees, including the OWNER, are women. I've never walked in to a gaming store, even one owned and operated exclusively by men (can't remember the last time I was in one), and been directed to the casual gaming section or anything like that. Plus...well, Cooking Mama is a Nintendo game. If you're a Nintendo fan you can't really complain about this. Maybe they are showing you the Nintendo games because, oh I don't know, you buy Nintendo games!

    Other than that this article was...eh. It started out pretty good but then went downhill. And I don't even understand the last part. How does playing Cooking Mama instead of MW2 make you a gamer at all? Last time I checked, that falls under "Casually Casual", which is not a gamer.
  • LKabongUno

    LKabongUno  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    Yeah, gotta agree with the few people here in disgust at the white knights. This article is garbage. The majority of the responses here are garbage.

    First off, to the White Knights: if you're so ashamed about what men "did" to women pre 1970's, cut your own damn balls off and get under the bus. Newsflash: every man was not and is not disrespecting women, pre or post 1970.


    Second, with the exception of number 1, and 9, which is contradicted by the existence of this article, the remander of the reasons show that women sterotype as much as men do. Every guy who plays games is not trying to get with a female gamer. Every guy is not interested in talking to a female game about games. Really, any guy with his head on straight wouldn't be interested in talking to female gamers about anything, because no matter what you say to them, it's always a load of vitrol about how you personally oppressed them for some shit that you had nothing to do with. So far as Cooking Mama and those kinds of games: a) guys play them too, and b) if they weren't selling, companies wouldn't continually waste their time making more of them. Somebody is buying the shit, and guess what: most of the time it's girls. Just like no one forces women to wear high heels or miniskirts or any of that shit. In all of this whining about girls are equal, the "author" forgot that girls are people too, and have different opinions. Hence all of them wouldn't agree with her that they don't like attention from guys in games, don't like cooking games, don't like girly girls in games, don't like whatever it is in games that the article parrots that they should like and vice versa. So far as the sterotypes, as much as I hate to say it, I know a disproportionate amount of gamers who don't shower regularly, so that would be a valid observation.

    Truth be told, girl gamers are worse sports than guy gamers. My win/loss record against them is the same as it is with guys in any given game, however the percent of women who are rude when they win, lose, or draw is far higher than that of men who do the same. If you win against a woman, she's pissed at you because you should have let her win. If you lose, you suck that much more because YOU GOT BEAT BY A GIRL (this said by the same people who claim that it shouldn't matter what the sex of the other person playing is). And on top of that, when a girl admits shes a girl online, it's an even split between the super pervs, and the white knights who are constantly slandering and attacking any man or boy who looks in her direction. Really, these guys are just another mode of perv, and intelligent guys know this.

    Honestly, you know what I think I'm going to do: start a service called GuyGamers. We don't hate on women, we don't praise women, or none of that. We just play the damn game, like what people used to do before Nintendo and like companies figured out they could make money like Proctor and Gamble if they could just get the girl market, and forced women's lib on gaming. We'll just be good sports, win or lose, and play the damn game. Any women coming in talking about "you're afraid to play a girl" or whatever gets banned. Guys aren't allowed in GamerChix, FragDolls and shit, so no girls in GuyGamers. No white knights either bitching about how women need to be in this, that, and the other more. You want more femwhining bitching in your game play, XBL and PSN and the internet is filled with em. Go feminist with them. The only requirements for this hypothetical group would be that you like games, and have a penis. It'll never happen, but it's nice to dream.
  • mdiaz033

    mdiaz033  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    @SolidSpartan society's a bitch? so we deal with it? just take it up the ass? you mean like a bitch? lol just trying to point out that this is what you're essentially saying in your comment and i disagree. thats all.
  • DriveShaft

    DriveShaft  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    It's so funny to read all the guys here who feel 'stereotyped', i'm a girl gamer, and even though I don't always win ( I think I had 108 wins to 42 losses in UC2)it is unfair, your own team will go out of their way to throw you under the bus, and even though not all the guys say something sexist or perverted, I have yet to see one say the opposite. Usually matches are like this: "Oh guys, I found like 6 of them, someone come help me take them..." "Wait - are you a girl?" "Ya, now hurry up they're gonna find me any second, (username)I can see you right behind them, throw a grenade at the same time (Other team spots me) (username) shoot them!! (gets killed) why didn't you take them out you could've got them all easily?!" "Because i'd rather lose then have a girl win" -_-
  • thefarkinator

    thefarkinator  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    Haha one of my friends regularly kicks my ass at soul calibur. but i have her beat in smash. Although my friends and I kinda do mock her every time we KO her
  • adamhertzano

    adamhertzano  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    Excellent articles no doubt , even reading the comments was interesting.
    I have to agree with Kazz993 "during the whole article I felt stereotyped for being male."
    Honestly it felt good to be stereotyped as male gamer, yeah lots of gamer girls out in the gaming community have been confronted with whatever gamer geek babbles etc..

    "u have to use sex and violence these days with MTV around" (Penelope Spheeris-1984)

    im not saying that there's any excuse for talking nasty shit to people over game networks but people still do it anyway and in most cases those badmouthed gamers would be either infants, geeks with girl issues, or just uneducated folk which there's plenty of out there.

    i hope that a better integration of social networking and Online gaming would yield a healthier gaming community

    Also maybe add an general option to choose when playing online whether u want to play against\with -- male \ Female \ mixed
    Like when playing arcade in MkVsDc ;)
  • WarriorWulf7

    WarriorWulf7  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    Okay. So i do do that sometimes. I don't say anything retarded or perverted i just ask if they a girl. That could be because of the name. (ex. PinkyPuff 94) one of my friends on psn. Or because of mic. If they say yes i just say OK and leave them alone. I've been online with just me vs. a girl offline in codmw2. SHE KILLED ME. My little sister still sucks though lol. I constantly beat her. Then again i beat just about everyone at racing.......(yes that is a challenge)
  • LethalTeaBag

    LethalTeaBag  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    that "gamecrush" thing is possibly the stupidest and lamest thing i have ever seen. it amazes me how people spend their money, and how desperate some people actually are.

    reCAPTCHA: intimate hilton
  • Kaz993

    Kaz993  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    This article sounded a lot like whining to me. during the whole article I felt stereotyped for being male.
  • profnutbutter

    profnutbutter  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    My girlfriend played Rock Band 2 with me on stage at PAX East on Sunday. :3
  • starhaw

    starhaw  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    well is it wrong for us to defend ourselves as guy gamers who ARN'T like what the article describes?...no wonder the nice guy is a dying breed ...just saying :P but the article was alright..not like I didn't know that before though.
  • rabidbutcher

    rabidbutcher  - 1 year, 10 months ago  - Report

    I think it's funny how a lot of the guys are posting 'experiences' with girl gamers while playing a game. Come on gentlemen, no one wants to hear about your 'I respect them!' stories. Just post that you like the article and move on.
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