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World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria review

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  • zombi3grim - September 26, 2012 8:49 p.m.

    I have never played WoW. It looks really cool and really fun. But Im not paying 15 bucks a month to play a game online....
  • lazer59882 - September 27, 2012 1:47 a.m.

    i actually agree with you. it always looked interesting to me, but no way am i paying a monthly fee for ANY game. looks like it's finally jumping the shark though, with a whole expansion pack dedicated to pandas.
  • KnowYourPokemon - September 27, 2012 5:34 a.m.

    I can understand not wanting to pay $15 monthly for an online game. However, you never judge a book by it's cover. People criticized this expansion without playing as much of a minute of it(like yourself) but since the expansion actually launched it's been met with lots of praise and how it already is a million times better than the cataclysm expansion. Yup, an expansion "all about" pandas(if you know nothing of WoWs story at least) is better than the expansion that was about fighting an giant dragon aspect of Death that wanted to destroy the world whole.
  • lazer59882 - September 30, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    here's the thing though: i don't have to know shit about WOW to know fucking dancing kung-fu-ing magic casting MMO ninja pandas are lame as hell. even if i loved WoW i'd still want to punch whoever was behind this in the nose. it's fucking pandas, period. there is not a single game in the world that would remotely benefit from adding pandas: 99% would suffer the same ridicule as this. and then they give that bullshit of "they were the most requested race". that's why there's so many other panda games on the market, right? i refuse to believe that. it's fucking absurd. i love elder scrolls games. i have played and will continue to play them all. however if the next skyrim expansion was some panda shit, starring pandas from some place called "pandaria", and i was told they were the most requested race, i'd laugh loooooong and hard, and then never buy another elder scrolls product. not to mention the monthly goddamn fee.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 2:37 a.m.

    Maybe not in the general market they weren't "the most requested" but yes, people have been asking for Pandaren in the WoW market for a long time now. They were originally intended for WoW's first expansion "The Burning Crusade" but they felt the Draenei were a better fit. Comparing WoW to Skyrim is like comparing Apples to Oranges, both fruit(fantasy), not much else in common though. Also Skyrim would be pulling them out of nowhere, the Warcraft storyline has had Pandaren since Warcraft 3... But yes in the end, you haven't played it and don't know a thing about the Warcraft story in general(Pandaren, like I said, are nothing new) then you have no comment. It would be like me calling The Elder Scrolls universe a complete waste of pen to paper even though I've only played a small bit of oblivion.
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 5:56 a.m.

    Except the one thing we DO know about it makes it ridiculous and absolutly NOT worth it. Thats a $15 a month fee. FUUUUUck that. If Guild Wars 2 can do it, WoW can do it. Dont give me that shit about "they have a much bigger user base and theyve been around longer." Doesnt matter.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    If you base entire purchases around one single aspect that you don't even bother looking into and take it for face value I'm afraid to see what other games you've probably missed out on. Guild Wars 2 has yet to prove it can do it, it's model is still thriving on the hopes of people paying for the game. If nobody buys exp boosts, Armor skins, etc the game won't be able to stick around. And sure Guild Wars 1 survived, but t was also much more heavily instanced which is a big factor compared to the openess of most other MMOs.
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    So apparently your oblivious to the micro transaction model. They only need a small percentage of players who buy the armour skins and exp boosts to make a profit. The rest comes from the $60 price tag. That one single aspect happens to be money. Yeah, I base my purchase on money. Kind of a funny thing, huh?
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    The micro transaction model requires enough people to pay for boosts, skins, etc to keep the servers up. Considering that subscription MMOs need a minimum of if I recall right, 100,000 subs to keep going(it might differ from MMO to MMO, I remember Bioware saying they needed somewhere around 200,000 from Swtor to make a profit the first year). I'm not sure if you understand just how much extra money is needed to make MMOs compared to other games. And while 100,000 people mightn't seem like a whole lot out of however many Xmillion(myself included) playing Guild Wars 2 at the moment, it does count on them staying. And considering GW2 is primarily a PvP game I really do see it becoming the game a lot of people dive into when looking for some good multiplayer through WvWvW. Which doesn't give a whole lot of incentive to buy things like Exp boosts when you realize PvP boosts you to 80 while you're in there anyway. I remember watching a video a while back that explained things pretty nicely, and that's that Guild Wars 2 would be more successful if people bought it and just never played it, considering they wouldn't have to worry about keeping the servers maintained. As for the money aspect I couldn't help but laugh a bit. I mean it was pretty obvious what was being referred to, and that's taking a look at a game for face value, looking at one part of said game and saying "Oh thats stupid" without researching it in the slightest and just brushing it off. The only comparison that comes to mind at the moment would be me seeing a friend play starcraft 2 for the first time and seeing that they have a Pandaren as their avatar in the game and saying "This game's stupid I won't buy it cause there's a Panda in it". Like I said in one of my previous posts I completely understand people not wanting to pay $15 monthly for an MMO, money is something to think about before purchasing anything, obviously. It's the fact you would look at it a game, make an assumption about one thing you see and know nothing about it and then not buying it because you decide to be ignorant of it, it's kind of funny.
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    My god, what the fuck....seriously. I feel like Im in an episode of South Park. Im not reading your huge bible on why I need to play WoW or why its so great. I also love how your talking about assumptions and then assume the only thing I know about WoW is the price. Your assuming I never played it. Your assuming I dont have friends who play it. Your assuming I dont read about it online. And you call me ignorant because I refuse to play a game where I have to a pay a $15 monthly fee because you ASSUME thats all I know about the game. Look up the word hypocrit in the dictionary, realize no one gives THAT much of a fuck about Warcraft, THEN get back to me, fuckface.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 2, 2012 5:40 a.m.

    If you actually read it you'd realize I never said two words about one game being better than the other, and you're telling me to look up the word hypocrite? Nice one. Also, you say I'm ASSUMING things? let me quote your EXACT comment from earlier. *Ahem* " I have never played WoW. It looks really cool and really fun. But Im not paying 15 bucks a month to play a game online...." NOW, in what part in any of that should I NOT get the impression that you have never played the game? Yup, pretty sure I'm using that ignorant term properly.
  • lazer59882 - October 2, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    shhhhhh, no one gives a fuck anymore. it's fucking pandas, in a monthly fee game. it is total bullshit by definition. it's over. stop now.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 3, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    Let's not forget all those games with cow people, bug people, all kinds of weird mixes. But the race made from a type of Bear? That's the ridiculous one.
  • lazer59882 - October 3, 2012 12:49 p.m.

    cow people? surely you jest.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 4, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    Ok I'll use the more correct term and say "Minotaurs", which have been around forever. But last I checked they were walking, and sometimes talking, cows, so bad ass. Let me Moo my opponents to death while purring and meowing my hearts content while playing a Char. So fierce and threatening.
  • GoldenEagle1476 - October 4, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    Technically, Minotaurs aren't even cows, they're half man/half bull. Just saying.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 5, 2012 7 a.m.

    And a bull is a male.....what? Cattle. Therefore, technically, a female Minotaur would be....? Yup. Half cow.
  • lazer59882 - October 4, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    lol. even if there were "cow people", they're still more interesting that plain vanilla pandas. at least they're half person, whereas here they're all panda... give it up dude, there's no use trying to convince me otherwise. i will forever think a panda game is lame as fuck. i will also assume that other such cute furry animals games are equally lame, so i'll be saying the same thing when blizzard releases Shades of Koala-ria, Shadows of Squirrelton and Haze of Ferreteria expansions. now go play your panda game and stop arguing with people who don't agree with you, and whom you will never sway.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 5, 2012 7:05 a.m.

    If I people only argued with those who agreed with them that would be boring as hell isn't it? And seriously, you keep replying as much as me, if you didn't want an argument you wouldn't say anything either. And it was never about "swaying" your opinion on everything. More about people talking about things they know nothing about. If I went on about something I knew nothing about I'd expect to get replies from people who actually know the topic too. Also, the only thing half human about Minotaurs, cow people, whatever. Are that they walk on two legs and have arms. Guess what the difference between Pandaren and Bears are? I'll give you a minute to figure it out. (Hint: It's the walking on two legs bit.)
  • zombi3grim - October 5, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    Congratulations. You know about Pandas, Minotaurs and World of Warcraft. Honestly, it amazes me how desperate you are to prove something. It doesnt matter what it is, you look like a starving child who HAS to be right. Even if you ARE right, you STILL look like an ass who tried WAY too hard to prove a point that really didnt need proving. Again, congratulations.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 8, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    Someone spits their mouth off about something they don't know about. Someone argues their point on the matter, they can't argue about the point and can't even get their own points straight without screwing up. All that's left to do is curse out the person arguing with them. Who's the child now exactly?
  • zombi3grim - October 8, 2012 3:14 p.m.

    Its the internet! Whats NOT to learn about Wow or a F2P model? I could google that shit and learn ALL I wanted to know. Your not special because your arguing a point. Your not really even arguing a point. Your arguing an opinion. Which makes you look like an even BIGGER dumbass. My POINT is I do NOT want to pay $15/month for a game. Period. I dont care about a F2P model, I dont care if you think Guild Wars 2 isnt as good, I dont CARE if you think WoW offsets the cost. I DONT want to pay 15 dollars a month for a game. Period. Thats MY point. And I am COMPLETLY justified in it. Now stop acting like an ass trying to change how other people want to spend their money and move on with your fucking life...
  • lazer59882 - October 5, 2012 1:41 p.m.

    he's right...you really do come off as a mentally deficient stubborn child. why are you so desperately seeking our approval of your affinity for panda-products and wow? like i said before, just shut the fuck up, and play your panda-game. stop trying to prove whatever it is you're trying to prove, and just acknowledge that, to most gamers over the age of 8, panda-games are lame as fuck by definition, and not worthy of a second look.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 8, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    You call me the one with mental problems when I've said over and over I was never trying to "convince" you of anything about if you want to play the damn game or not. You said something so insanely ignorant and somebody, who happened to be me, argued against you. You can't think of anything to say now so you and the guy posting alongside you can't do anything but curse me out. It's funny that you're the ones calling me a child.
  • zombi3grim - October 8, 2012 3:05 p.m.

    Because we DONT CARE! How many times do we have to tell you? I dont give a FUCK if you THINK its worth paying 15 dollars a month! I DONT. Thats MY OPINION! Holy fuckin shit balls, dude. I dont HAVE to argue MY OPINION with you. Its mine. God damn, what do you NOT understand about that? You cant be RIGHT with a fucking opinion. You cant be WRONG with one. But you know what? I still do not give a fuck. But you really do. You care. About WoW. Alot. Again, congratulations.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 10, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    My god you seem to read words out of thin air... how many times do I have to repeat "I completely understand not wanting to pay $15" and not ONCE have I said "YOU REALLY NEED TO PLAY THIS" Not once have I even argued over if it's worth paying the $15 a month for... Your comments sure are interesting to read, I'll give ya that much.
  • zombi3grim - October 10, 2012 5:30 p.m.

    And you're still replying....why. Why are you still on about this? What the fuck is your point? What are you trying to prove? Honestly, what? If you're not arguing that, what the fuck ARE you arguing? Do you even know? Because, looking back over the entire conversation, that is EXACTLY how this started. "But yes in the end, you haven't played it and don't know a thing about the Warcraft story in general(Pandaren, like I said, are nothing new) then you have no comment." "As for the money aspect I couldn't help but laugh a bit. I mean it was pretty obvious what was being referred to, and that's taking a look at a game for face value, looking at one part of said game and saying "Oh thats stupid" without researching it in the slightest and just brushing it off." Thats you up there defending WoW to the fucking death. And those are just TWO tiny little examples of your huge rant that I can pull from. The entire conversation is still there. Our point STILL stands! It doesnt matter what you agree with or disagree with now, you ALREADY defended WoW to the fucking death and we STILL dont want to play it because of the $15 a month price tag. Period. STILL! I dont care how good of a game it is or if we never played it or even tried it. It has a $15 a month price tag. Now get mad, fuckface.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 11, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    That's what you call defending to the death? Giving legitimate reasons against your blind ignorance towards something? Again, I fail to see the parts where I said you needed to play this game, and that it was the best game ever or anything of the sort. This started when not even yourself, but the other commenter, ignorantly talked about how a game was clearly going downhill since it was using a race based on Pandas. I replied with " I can understand not wanting to pay $15 monthly for an online game. However, you never judge a book by it's cover. People criticized this expansion without playing as much of a minute of it(like yourself) but since the expansion actually launched it's been met with lots of praise and how it already is a million times better than the cataclysm expansion. Yup, an expansion "all about" pandas(if you know nothing of WoWs story at least) is better than the expansion that was about fighting an giant dragon aspect of Death that wanted to destroy the world whole." Please tell me where that states you just have to play WoW by the way. I'm still waiting for you to find one line of where I said that. Then you decided to bring in the "Guild Wars 2 can be free argument" and I just explained the problems that system might have in the long run. Again, not once have I said that WoW is this great amazing game and you just have to play it. As for me getting mad... I honestly not once have been "mad" during any of this. Seems kind of silly to get mad over a video game. Also, you keep replying to me... and don't expect to get anything back, and then ask me why I'm bothering to reply. I'm sorry but that type of logic is a tad confusing to me. I could never not reply when you've clearly put so much thought into these comments. Lastly. I'm just going to leave this here, "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates
  • zombi3grim - October 2, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    "It looks really cool and really fun." Why would I write that if I knew nothing about the game. Try again.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 3, 2012 9:42 a.m.

    I can watch a trailer showing some very minor gameplay and come out saying "Hey, that looks cool and fun" Hell I know people who got that impression from the freaking South Park episode. And seriously, don't try and avoid the fact that you haven't played the game before, after telling me how I'm making "assumptions" of you having never played it before, you bloody said it yourself. Oh, and this might be another one of my wild assumptions, but I would expect someone who read up on the game to realize it's free up to level 20. Again, sorry for getting the assumption you haven't played a game you said you haven't played and don't research a game you are convinced you have to pay for to try it out when everywhere you look there's adds saying "try for free at..." "Free to play till level 20" etc...
  • Grimful - October 10, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    The thing is though, if you really don't care then why have you come on here so many times just to say the same thing? If you don't care let it go. Honestly, other games have "silly" races as well just look at Popuri in TERA or Frogloks in Everquest 2 and games can be centered around one cutsey concept and still be really good, just look at Okami, that game is something I would consider cute and yet it's freaking awesome. So if you don't want to play because the word "Panda" is used for a continant and there are anthropomorphic panda people running around, go ahead, it's your loss. I'm not even saying the idea isn't silly, in a way I could even agree that it's kind of stupid, but people shouldn't be so caught up in being "mature" that they refuse to play something simply because it has pandas in it. And yes, Pandarian are a heavily requested race, I wanted them as well as people in my guild, shoot there's a Gamesradar article that was put out during the burning crusade that requests Pandarian (Granted it was only for the alliance) not because they are cute or anything, but because they actually look pretty cool and are an enjoiable race, feel free to hate if you want, that's fine and understandable and I can completely get the monthly fee being a detractor, but Panda's really aren't that big of a deal in the grand scope of the expansion, it's still a well made game that does what it sets out to do better than everyone else in the business and at least to me that's what's important.
  • lazer59882 - October 10, 2012 1:56 p.m.

    i can't believe you're stoking a week old discussion that ended in a total fucking stalemate, just to say that pandas are actually cool, and WoW is awesome. nobody fucking cares. go play your panda game and enjoy it, don't prowl old articles and comments for opinions that disagree with yours.

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Release date: Sep 25 2012 - PC (US)
Available Platforms: PC
Genre: Role Playing
Published by: Blizzard
Franchise: World of Warcraft
ESRB Rating:
Teen: Blood and Gore, Crude Humor, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence, Mild Language

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