World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria review

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  • zombi3grim - September 26, 2012 8:49 p.m.

    I have never played WoW. It looks really cool and really fun. But Im not paying 15 bucks a month to play a game online....
  • lazer59882 - September 27, 2012 1:47 a.m.

    i actually agree with you. it always looked interesting to me, but no way am i paying a monthly fee for ANY game. looks like it's finally jumping the shark though, with a whole expansion pack dedicated to pandas.
  • KnowYourPokemon - September 27, 2012 5:34 a.m.

    I can understand not wanting to pay $15 monthly for an online game. However, you never judge a book by it's cover. People criticized this expansion without playing as much of a minute of it(like yourself) but since the expansion actually launched it's been met with lots of praise and how it already is a million times better than the cataclysm expansion. Yup, an expansion "all about" pandas(if you know nothing of WoWs story at least) is better than the expansion that was about fighting an giant dragon aspect of Death that wanted to destroy the world whole.
  • lazer59882 - September 30, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    here's the thing though: i don't have to know shit about WOW to know fucking dancing kung-fu-ing magic casting MMO ninja pandas are lame as hell. even if i loved WoW i'd still want to punch whoever was behind this in the nose. it's fucking pandas, period. there is not a single game in the world that would remotely benefit from adding pandas: 99% would suffer the same ridicule as this. and then they give that bullshit of "they were the most requested race". that's why there's so many other panda games on the market, right? i refuse to believe that. it's fucking absurd. i love elder scrolls games. i have played and will continue to play them all. however if the next skyrim expansion was some panda shit, starring pandas from some place called "pandaria", and i was told they were the most requested race, i'd laugh loooooong and hard, and then never buy another elder scrolls product. not to mention the monthly goddamn fee.
  • zombi3grim - September 30, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    But....but the pandas....
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 2:37 a.m.

    Maybe not in the general market they weren't "the most requested" but yes, people have been asking for Pandaren in the WoW market for a long time now. They were originally intended for WoW's first expansion "The Burning Crusade" but they felt the Draenei were a better fit. Comparing WoW to Skyrim is like comparing Apples to Oranges, both fruit(fantasy), not much else in common though. Also Skyrim would be pulling them out of nowhere, the Warcraft storyline has had Pandaren since Warcraft 3... But yes in the end, you haven't played it and don't know a thing about the Warcraft story in general(Pandaren, like I said, are nothing new) then you have no comment. It would be like me calling The Elder Scrolls universe a complete waste of pen to paper even though I've only played a small bit of oblivion.
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 5:56 a.m.

    Except the one thing we DO know about it makes it ridiculous and absolutly NOT worth it. Thats a $15 a month fee. FUUUUUck that. If Guild Wars 2 can do it, WoW can do it. Dont give me that shit about "they have a much bigger user base and theyve been around longer." Doesnt matter.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    If you base entire purchases around one single aspect that you don't even bother looking into and take it for face value I'm afraid to see what other games you've probably missed out on. Guild Wars 2 has yet to prove it can do it, it's model is still thriving on the hopes of people paying for the game. If nobody buys exp boosts, Armor skins, etc the game won't be able to stick around. And sure Guild Wars 1 survived, but t was also much more heavily instanced which is a big factor compared to the openess of most other MMOs.
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    So apparently your oblivious to the micro transaction model. They only need a small percentage of players who buy the armour skins and exp boosts to make a profit. The rest comes from the $60 price tag. That one single aspect happens to be money. Yeah, I base my purchase on money. Kind of a funny thing, huh?
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 1, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    The micro transaction model requires enough people to pay for boosts, skins, etc to keep the servers up. Considering that subscription MMOs need a minimum of if I recall right, 100,000 subs to keep going(it might differ from MMO to MMO, I remember Bioware saying they needed somewhere around 200,000 from Swtor to make a profit the first year). I'm not sure if you understand just how much extra money is needed to make MMOs compared to other games. And while 100,000 people mightn't seem like a whole lot out of however many Xmillion(myself included) playing Guild Wars 2 at the moment, it does count on them staying. And considering GW2 is primarily a PvP game I really do see it becoming the game a lot of people dive into when looking for some good multiplayer through WvWvW. Which doesn't give a whole lot of incentive to buy things like Exp boosts when you realize PvP boosts you to 80 while you're in there anyway. I remember watching a video a while back that explained things pretty nicely, and that's that Guild Wars 2 would be more successful if people bought it and just never played it, considering they wouldn't have to worry about keeping the servers maintained. As for the money aspect I couldn't help but laugh a bit. I mean it was pretty obvious what was being referred to, and that's taking a look at a game for face value, looking at one part of said game and saying "Oh thats stupid" without researching it in the slightest and just brushing it off. The only comparison that comes to mind at the moment would be me seeing a friend play starcraft 2 for the first time and seeing that they have a Pandaren as their avatar in the game and saying "This game's stupid I won't buy it cause there's a Panda in it". Like I said in one of my previous posts I completely understand people not wanting to pay $15 monthly for an MMO, money is something to think about before purchasing anything, obviously. It's the fact you would look at it a game, make an assumption about one thing you see and know nothing about it and then not buying it because you decide to be ignorant of it, it's kind of funny.
  • lazer59882 - October 1, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    sorry buddy, i personally couldn't make it through the fucking acronym minefield that is your first paragraph. i have no clue what you're talking about anymore. i DO know that watching football this sunday, i must've seen 3289274 commercials advertising that goddamn jump kicking spinning kung-fu-ing magic using Raiden hat wearing panda and this game, and all it did was make me want to punch things. i didn't see a single commercial advertising all those "deep improvements" you keep blabbing about. just pandas. and yet you keep saying i need to know something about WOW to say that i don't want fucking cute furry bears and animals in ANY game i play. i don't. if your main selling point for any game you're making is "magic pandas!" then as far as i'm concerned, fuck you. what else can i say here?
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 2, 2012 5:45 a.m.

    It was never about you not liking the game. It was more along the lines of making wild assumptions about the game "jumping the shark" using your words. And since you're having trouble with my "acronym minefield" let me help you MMO- Massively Multiplayer Online game GW2- Guild Wars 2 PvP- Player vs Player WvWvW- World vs World vs World Hope that helps
  • zombi3grim - October 1, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    My god, what the fuck....seriously. I feel like Im in an episode of South Park. Im not reading your huge bible on why I need to play WoW or why its so great. I also love how your talking about assumptions and then assume the only thing I know about WoW is the price. Your assuming I never played it. Your assuming I dont have friends who play it. Your assuming I dont read about it online. And you call me ignorant because I refuse to play a game where I have to a pay a $15 monthly fee because you ASSUME thats all I know about the game. Look up the word hypocrit in the dictionary, realize no one gives THAT much of a fuck about Warcraft, THEN get back to me, fuckface.
  • lazer59882 - October 1, 2012 10:35 p.m.

    hahahaha niiiice. tell him to look up a non-existant word...he'll be looking for years. i give him till 2014 to realize there's a 'e' at the end of hypocrite.
  • zombi3grim - October 2, 2012 5:16 a.m.

    yeah yeah, whatever....
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 2, 2012 5:47 a.m.

    If you seriously want to get into the grammar war at least start your sentences with capital letters...
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 2, 2012 5:40 a.m.

    If you actually read it you'd realize I never said two words about one game being better than the other, and you're telling me to look up the word hypocrite? Nice one. Also, you say I'm ASSUMING things? let me quote your EXACT comment from earlier. *Ahem* " I have never played WoW. It looks really cool and really fun. But Im not paying 15 bucks a month to play a game online...." NOW, in what part in any of that should I NOT get the impression that you have never played the game? Yup, pretty sure I'm using that ignorant term properly.
  • lazer59882 - October 2, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    shhhhhh, no one gives a fuck anymore. it's fucking pandas, in a monthly fee game. it is total bullshit by definition. it's over. stop now.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 3, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    That's your argument? Nice. Guild Wars 2, Cat People.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 3, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    Let's not forget all those games with cow people, bug people, all kinds of weird mixes. But the race made from a type of Bear? That's the ridiculous one.
  • lazer59882 - October 3, 2012 12:49 p.m.

    cow people? surely you jest.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 4, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    Ok I'll use the more correct term and say "Minotaurs", which have been around forever. But last I checked they were walking, and sometimes talking, cows, so bad ass. Let me Moo my opponents to death while purring and meowing my hearts content while playing a Char. So fierce and threatening.
  • GoldenEagle1476 - October 4, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    Technically, Minotaurs aren't even cows, they're half man/half bull. Just saying.
  • KnowYourPokemon - October 5, 2012 7 a.m.

    And a bull is a male.....what? Cattle. Therefore, technically, a female Minotaur would be....? Yup. Half cow.

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Release date: Sep 25 2012 - PC (US)
Available Platforms: PC
Genre: Role Playing
Published by: Blizzard
Franchise: World of Warcraft
ESRB Rating:
Teen: Blood and Gore, Crude Humor, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence, Mild Language