Why a Namco character is almost certainly coming to Smash Bros.

Nintendo had a big week, announcing a ton of awesome stuff involving Super Smash Bros. Release dates and final rosters weren't discussed, but we got a look at a ton of new characters, Assist Trophies, and more. But after looking through everything, we noticed some trends, and we might know some new stuff about the game. Like what? Well, check out the video below.


  • Jamiehb - April 13, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    When they accredited one of mega man's moves to Marvel vs Capcom I was suddenly overcome with hoe awesome Phoenix Wright would be in Smash Bros. And was then immediately overcome with disappointment over how there's practically no chance of that happening
  • chocobofc - April 13, 2014 10:49 a.m.

    I hope its Cless from Tales of Phantasia. I know everyone likes Lloyd but Cless is the first main character of the series and he can kick Lloyd's ass any day.
  • robin-smith - April 13, 2014 7:02 a.m.

  • Welshy91 - April 12, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Sakurai said that Namco won't be receiving special consideration for Namco characters, so if you didn't expect a Namco character before it was revealed they were assisting, you probably shouldn't now.
  • Divine Paladin - April 13, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Sakurai is also a known troll, having pulled two or three (depending on who you talk to) different blatant trolls in the Direct alone. Besides, Pac-Man is one of the most desired guests right now. It'd complete the "superstar" element of the roster as best Nintendo could without somehow nabbing PlayStation characters.
  • Fro4show - April 12, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    First of all, I don't think Snake will be in, but not for those reasons. I just have a gut feeling that he's not going to make it, but I don't think there has been any real concrete reason as to why revealed yet. Second, if they did Pacman, I think that they would look to the Pacman world series of games for inspiration about his moveset. Maybe Lloyd would be a better fit, but I don't know that guy as well. I still think that GR has the wrong mindset for predictions about smash brothers. They haven't been right about anything yet and I feel like their "convincing evidence" leads them in directions no closer to the truth than anyone else's baseless speculation.
  • J-Fid - April 12, 2014 8:47 a.m.

    Henry trying his best Vince McMahon impersonation at the end of the video. I would love a Soul Calibur character to be in the game, but it wouldn't surprise me if Lloyd was chosen instead.
  • shawksta - April 12, 2014 9:56 a.m.

    Actually you know how the Smash Bros icon is Blue for Wii U and Red for 3DS? and you know how Final Desintation is an epic clash of the Earth and the Sun, Red and Blue again? Frankly its more or less close to the trademark Red and Blue of Soul Edge and Soul Calibur then again it IS Namco helping so thats probably where the inspiration came from. Also 3DS Red = Summer, Wii U Blue = Winter, we shouldve seen this coming :P
  • J-Fid - April 12, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    Can't tell if you're a genius, or over-thinking this WAY too much.
  • shawksta - April 12, 2014 10:58 p.m.

    Oh come now, just look at the bottom of Final Destination and tell me it doesnt remind you of Soul Calibur?
  • J-Fid - April 13, 2014 8:03 a.m.

    No, you're right. It totally does. But this means there definitely needs to be a SC character in Smash. Your last sentence I think might just be a coincidence.
  • shawksta - April 13, 2014 12:08 p.m.

    As i said, its most likely that Soul Calibur is where the Namco team got the idea for the whole Red and Blue schtick. Yeah it is a coincedence im just taking the chance XD
  • shawksta - April 12, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    Oh boy
  • azureguy - April 12, 2014 6:01 a.m.

    Even though I'm a big Tales fan myself, I think seeing any character from any of these games in Smash Bros. is unlikely. You guys said that the developer's decisions for character choices are "Japan First", but then you come up with Tales of Symphonia, which is the most well-known game in the series IN THE WEST. If it were for Japan, other games have a bigger following like Tales of Destiny, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Vesperia (Yuri and Estelle were included in Project X Zone after all) or Tales of Xillia. Also, I know that Symphonia is popular because it was a Gamecube-exclusive, and in fact before the HD version came along, it remained Nintendo-exclusive. But Symphonia isn't THAT popular to warrant him being in Smash Bros. Lastly, I don't want to feed the "Nintendo is for kids" cliche, but in case of Smash Bros. that's true. The characters that get featured come from video games that are rather vide game-ish. One can easily recognize it's a fantasy world in a video game. Realism takes a step back for the unique style and presentation. You admitted it yourself that Snake was a weird pick, as he comes from a realistic video game world where he KILLS stuff. Metroid and Fire Emblem might push the limit in terms of realism and display of content, but this line won't be crossed any further. Tales of is a series that deals with mature themes and is rather realistic in terms of plot and character interaction. They might use a colorful artstyle, but it is not an easygoing-happy world as it is with Kirby or Mario. It just doesn't fit with all the other character's games. So ultimately, seeing Lloyd in Smash Bros. is nigh impossible. He might've been a thing back when the Gamecube was the current Nintendo console, but after that his time was over.
  • Jackonomics2.0 - April 12, 2014 7:14 a.m.

    That is the most stupidest reason I ever heard Tales is just as fantasy, even with its "Mature theme and real world plot" its a cartoony rpg. For fucks sake we have basketball game starring Mario and Final Fantasy characters. Second of all, your "Japan first" argument would work normally except one of the newcomers is Little Mac, whose otherwise much more known and famous outside Japan.
  • Divine Paladin - April 12, 2014 3:24 p.m.

    But Little Mac needed a HUGE a ount of fanbase support in the West before we got him. The Japan-first mindset has held true in every other instance that comes to mind, except for when Western fans bitched hard enough to get the FE reps in the Western version of Melee.
  • Jackonomics2.0 - April 13, 2014 7:40 a.m.

    So? And Japan bitched for Captain Rainbow when we got little Mac instead. I still believe Japan gets priority, but the fact of the matter is they are reaching for other regions as well for prominent characters in said region, so frankly its a good thing its not just restricted to Japan popular characters.
  • Divine Paladin - April 13, 2014 7:52 a.m.

    "So?" It took an entire region begging for the entirety of the gap between Brawl and Little Mac's reveal for him to get in. You're sort of downplaying that with a simple "So?" response. Nintendo has done a great job recently of appealing to all people at once, yes, but with Sakurai, Japan-first is going to stay until we hear explicitly from him that it won't. I never said Japan-first was a good thing (frankly I find it bad that this is the case); I replied specifically to your argument that Japan-first is no longer in effect because a single character was revealed due to primarily Western support. Though now you've said that you do believe Japan still has priority, so the entire point of my initial comment is somewhat moot.
  • J-Fid - April 13, 2014 8:13 a.m.

    Which Western fans begged for the FE characters in Melee? Outside of debuggers, no one outside of Japan had even heard of the franchise until they saw Marth and Roy in Melee.
  • Divine Paladin - April 13, 2014 8:23 a.m.

    It's always been understood that the FE reps were going to be Japan-exclusive in Melee until fans clamored about them during the localization. From Sakurai on Marth specifically (I have Roy's as well):

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