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  • BladedFalcon - April 2, 2013 6:30 p.m.

    What's this??? Squeenix is also in for the race of shittiest VG company??? We have a new challenger everybody!!!
  • Moondoggie1157 - April 2, 2013 6:36 p.m.

    They did lose a shit load of money, didn't they? It's unfortunate, but these things happen. Don't you think it's a little dramatic to say they are in the race for shittiest game company? I'll wait to see what happens next before I pounce.
  • BladedFalcon - April 2, 2013 6:56 p.m.

    Um... you DO realize that if they lost a ton of money is entirely their fault and because of their own practices, right? All the games they supposedly "lost" money with actually sold pretty damn well, so if they lost money even though all of them sold over 2 million copies, it's a problem of the company itself, not of the developers of the staff they just fired. Also, have you seen how Shitty Square Enix has been for the last years ASIDE from Eidos's games? Tell me exactly how many good games have come out from squeenix japan recently, FFXIII was a mixed bag at best, and they decided to follow it up with TWO sequels that no one asked for. Not to mention the whole disaster with FFXIV and that they STILL want to re-release it instead of moving on! Are you seriously asking me to have sympathy for a company that has done nothing but screw itself up time and time again, and that the only good branch they have is the ONE that they are putting the blame on and downsizing?
  • Cyberninja - April 2, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    Dude Square Japan just made Bravely Default and Good is very subjective since I am one of the nonexistent people who are glad to have 2 FF13 sequels. Also in the case of The LA branch being downsized if they don't meet their expectations of course they will be the ones to lose people if you look at it from the perspective of a business, not of personally beliefs about what games are good and bad, since all square games English and Japanese usually score well and sell to the target audience
  • BladedFalcon - April 2, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    Okay... Bravely Default, that's ONE decent, not revolutionary, but decent RPG... And yet you forget that they also just released "All the bravest" which is one of the biggest pieces of crap that have been released this year so far, and banked purely on drawing in FF fans with nostalgia... and nothing else. And for your argument about expectations... Tell me, you honestly think FFXIV met anyone's expectations? And yet, how is it that the game is being REDONE and rebranded? that's a ridiculous waste of money on a brand that has an already tainted name, and yet they got far from being downsized... And yet the people that are making good games, but didn't "meet expectations" are getting axed... even though it wasn't really the game's fault? again, tomb raider made 3.7 millions in two weeks? how the fuck is that considered below expectation? if it is, the it's the company's fault for having skewed expectations, not the developer's.
  • Cyberninja - April 2, 2013 9:23 p.m.

    Ok, I never gave anyone a free pass and you are getting to angry about this, Yes the people making the "good games" are getting cut but what exactly is your whining doing to fix the situation? Last I checked the Japanese branch makes most of the money through various means like social games the Dragon Quest MMO, etc. (BTW they have made dragon quest games that are pretty good but hey I don't care enough to go through all square japans to prove a point that is subjective ) Your really just wasting your time with this seeing as no one here knows what goes on behind the scenes to make the decisions. sure they messed up FF 14 the first time the reason why they don't just give up on it and move on is because in the long run if it picks up like 11 did(and even it doesn't) then it will easily make them more money then anything else they do making up all the losses because of the loyal subscribers. But hey rage all you want about things no one here fully understands, I don't know what's going there for all we know Tomb Raider didn't break even as fast as they want also I am not defending anyone but I am just telling it how it is.
  • BladedFalcon - April 2, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    ...If you don't know what's going on, why even bother commenting? ._. Also, my "whinning" at the very least puts a voice of concern about the situation, if enough voices are heard, SOMETIMES someone with the power to do something can do it. At the very least, I'd rather vent here even if it does no good than just stay silent and just watch the industry I love go to the crapper because of stupid companies like Squeenix, activision and EA.
  • haipayazoo - April 3, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    You can vent all you want, but the reality is that in the case a company loses profit, someone's going to have to pay whether it's the person responsible or branches of lesser importance, which in this case is the LA Branch. It's inevitable in a lot of company situations. The matter at hand isn't that Square is a shitty company due to their software line-up, we're well aware they've been doing pretty badly (Except for Eidos, and Dragon Quest), it's about the layoffs. While this could have possibly been avoided if Square Enix had released better software, we can't accurately predict that smarter decisions could have also led to a different outcome, especially since they announced that Eidos' software didn't reach sales expectations, and they were critically acclaimed. Your "whining" is only to regards to the SE's business decisions on their own software, which is reasonable, when we're talking about business decisions from a corporate standpoint. In this case, it's the layoff's which, in our point-of-view, is understandable.
  • BladedFalcon - April 3, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    Fair enough, I mean, i DO understand that if a company is having losses, it makes sense to cut off lesser branches. It's just frustrating to see them cut staff same like EA and Activision are all doing because I'm pretty sure their "expectations" for games are too damn skewed nowadays. I mean... how is it possible that say, Lords of Shadow, which barely broke a million and a half copies, was profitable enough for Konami to develop two extra sequels for it, while games like tomb raider sell almost 4 million copies in less than a month, and that is considered "not good enough"? The point overall that I've been trying to make is: if they wanna stop losing money, maybe they should look into changing their business model, or find a way for production costs to be not so damn high, instead of downsizing studios and laying off people every-time something goes wrong. Cutting staff is only a immediate solution for them, but does nothing to help them in the long run, and if they keep it up like this, they are probably gonna end up collapsing on themselves sooner than later.
  • Cyberninja - April 3, 2013 6:58 p.m.

    Dude clearly I know what is going on more then you do, since you think a small square studio in LA that hasn't made any retail games is making the good games like tomb raider as seen in your comment before this one.
  • haipayazoo - April 2, 2013 7:15 p.m.

    As much as I'm disliking a lot of Square Enix's decisions recently, I can't really fault them for this one. You have to look at it in a company's perspective. They have been losing money and so they need to do some "corporate restructuring," like most other companies have done before. It's sad, but it's business.
  • BladedFalcon - April 2, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    So they get a free pass for fucking shit up just because they are a company? how nice!

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