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  • LEGOMatrix - November 16, 2013 4:18 a.m.

    Yeah, I reckon Sony and Nintendo have had a bit of an agreement not to step on each others toes after the original Xbox's successful debut and the death of Sega's DC. Since then, Nintendo has been mainly targeting the blue ocean, whilst Sony has generally been looking for experienced sailors down in the docks.
  • Jackonomics - November 15, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    You know the saying: Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer
  • MasteroDisasta - November 15, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    Japanese companies gots to stick together!
  • GOD - November 14, 2013 10:59 p.m.

    I think for Sony and Nintendo it will always be a kind of brotherly connection. For one thing, they both started in Japan and compete on each other's doorstep. Japan has this sense of honor that I'm sure builds upon that and they respect one another. Meanwhile, Microsoft came to the table much later and is based in the US, as well as not being very popular in Japan. When a Japanese company has something go awry, like say FFXIV, then they get to work on do what they can to let people know they will make things right. When Microsoft bombs it's console reveal and E3, the head PR goes to Zynga....
  • Nikku7 - November 14, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    Haven't we have enough of this very argument a million times over for the last ....6 years or so? I think it's safe to say consoles are going to be around for a good long while no matter whether you want them to or not. The masses will go out in droves to buy almost anything shiny and new. It goes for both new phones and new game consoles alike.
  • Cyberninja - November 14, 2013 7:56 p.m.

    I started with a N64, got a PS2(first a dreamcast =() and now I have a PS3 and Wiiu/ 3DS and Vita. I prefer this because it show Nintendo and sony dont need to compete, since I will always like and own both consoles.
  • shawksta - November 14, 2013 6:54 p.m.

    Sony and Nintendo are frankly always friendly with each other. Yoshida in the past stated how he owns Nintendo consoles and handhelds, same with Nintendo reps and Miyamoto is interested in the Psvita's concept. They both have good sportsmanship competitive wise or not Microsoft on the other hand just likes having people state negatives about the others console manufacturers. You hear a comment against Sony or Nintendo in a harsh manner? Its almost always coming from Microsoft or anyone near em.
  • hester2 - November 14, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    To be fair, that's more the case at the beginning of a generation when they're actually competing for hardware purchasers. Major Nelson has actually praised Sony's PS3 games in the past couple of years, but that's because at that point the majority of gamers owned both systems. It'll be the same thing this time around. The "wars" will be real heated at first while people can only afford one console. 2-4 years down the line, the only people playing that card will be younger gamers just now getting into the new gen, and we'll just ignore them. Meanwhile, the bad apples of the PC gaming community will start the "master race" thing again, making all of us PC gamers look bad, even though we own and love at least one console, if not both (or all 3, if we're counting the Wii U as "new-gen"). In other words, any phrase ending with "wars" regarding gaming is stupid. Gaming is getting better across the board, and anyone who avoids the experience a certain platform can deliver based purely on a misplaced sense of loyalty is hurting no one but themselves.
  • shawksta - November 14, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    Yeah your right. and yes Wii U is counted as New-gen, it improves on Nintendo's old and it still manages to impress people with its tech.
  • shawksta - November 14, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    Yeah because the 3DS is DEFINITLEY gonna help the Vita right?
  • Takeshi - November 14, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    Nintendo and Sony's days are numbered anyway. PCs, phones, and tablets are replacing dedicated gaming devices (except for the Xbox, so far). Soon, these companies will just be making games for iOS and Android, much like how Sega ended up being a game developer for Nintendo.
  • JMarsella09 - November 14, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    I can't tell if you're trolling or not...
  • Christopia86 - November 14, 2013 6:01 p.m.

    I'd not agree with you there friend. Sure, iOS and Android have consoles beat on user base, but look at the actual number of consoles sold this generation, it looks pretty high, the higest they have ever been in fact. (source: http://gamerthumb.com/2013/11/13/combined-ps3-360-and-wii-sales-make-outgoing-generation-the-most-successful-of-all-time/) I do agree that PC is really starting to pick up, but I can't honestly see your average gamer, especialy younger gamers bothering to build and maintain a good gaming PC, at least not while there is a console option. I very much doubt that if they were to fail, any of Sony or Nintendo's in house yeams would look to work entierly on mobile devices, though some retro ports would be kinda sweet. Developers like Naughty Dog would most likely move to PC, Nintendo might go fully handheld given their recent 3DS success. With PC gaming still being pretty niche in Japan, I think consoles will stick around for a few more years yet. I hope this didn't come across badly, I'm not trying to dismiss your opinion or anything, I just wanted to give my opinion based on what you said
  • Takeshi - November 14, 2013 6:17 p.m.

    I agree, the last generation of gaming consoles did well, but the next generation is the one that's going to have to contend against tablets & mobile devices. Nintendo already seems to be losing the war against iPhones & iPads for mobile gaming, but it remains to be seen if they can turn their numbers around on the console. Hardcore gamers will continue to play consoles, but it's getting harder for casual gamers to justify buying multiple devices.
  • ncurry2 - November 14, 2013 6:49 p.m.

    You realize the 3DS is currently the strongest selling piece of gaming hardware and the trends only point towards it going higher. Also, the last generation has been contending with iphones and ipads as well. People that only invest in Angry Birds aren't the people that were going to buy a console anyways. If anything, iphones and ipads are weaning more people onto dedicated machines, as evidenced by the last generation moving more consoles than ever before. The Wii U is struggling because Nintendo underestimated the increase in development time required to do HD games and as a result are in a major drought. Many of the engines their games were based on all the way through the Wii era were built for the Gamecube. Look at the games they've released thus far for Wii U: a 2d mario game ripped straight from the new super mario bros engine for wii (which was ripped from the new super mario bros engine for ds...), a pikmin game that was in development for Wii for years but continually delayed, an HD rerelease of a gamecube game (wind waker), and a compilation of tech demos used years before the launch of Wii U to showcase its different control options (Nintendoland). And even the upcoming mario game is heavily based on an existing engine in the 3ds Super Mario Land, albeit much improved. Once Nintendo gets their internal processes and engines down for the HD generation, they'll be pumping out the quality games. I'm sure once Mario Kart and Smash bros comes out, paired with the new 3d mario game and the recently released Wind Waker, sales will pick up. How do I know this? The 3ds was in the EXACT same position. Slow sales, quick price cut to combat the upcoming release of technically superior hardware, and then they released mario kart 7, super mario land, and a rerelease of a cherished 3d zelda game and sales immediately spiked and have continued to stay high. Add Smash to the mix and you've got a formula for success.
  • Divine Paladin - November 14, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    You will never see a dedicated "true" game on a tablet or phone natively. The market has aimed entirely at creating quick, play-on-the-go games, and there is a market of hundreds of millions looking for the experiences only consoles and PCs bring. And since most gamers are looking for a simple experience, without having to build and maintain a computer, consoles aren't going anywhere. And don't get me started on SteamBox; there isn't a big market of console gamers who want to update a console-PC hybrid constantly just to play PC games with a controller, just because it's Valve making it.
  • Christopia86 - November 14, 2013 6:52 p.m.

    Well smart phones and tablets have been going for a good portion of this generation, and sales have still been strong over the past few years. I really think that mobile and console gaming are going for different markets, I don't think that anyone who is seriously into gaming would consider mobile gaming a viable option and the more casual, for want of a better term, gamers will still want a console for COD and Fifa/NBA/Madden/Sportsball yearly updates. Most of the people I know have a console, maybe not one that gets daily use but the majority of them are getting games every couple of months. I was under the impression the 3DS was picking up speed now. Mobile games are tending with insanely short average play times, figures from Q1 2013 showed average play sesiones to be a little over 2:30. I don't belive mobile gaming is hitting the same market as handheld, popular mobile games seem to aim for a very quick play sesion, a stage on candy crush or angry birds will give some one a short distraction on the toilet or during a commute to work, but it's little more than that, a short distraction. Compair it to a handheld game like Pokemon, where players can play for hours and will play at home and it starts to show the two have very different aims.
  • adison-clarke - November 18, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    While i respect where your coming from, your statements are so opinion based and not fact based at all that i highly doubt you have any idea what your actually saying... Like seriously analyse the industry for a bit and you'll see that despite nintendo losing money on the lacklustre sales of wii u consoles, they still made a profit purely based on the 3DS.. iPhones and Androids are great but they don't provide the same experience, and app sales over the past two years will paint a picture for you that kinda highlights this. The people that play angry birds, they were not the people that had a DS. or a PS2. or PS3, or an Xbox one, xbox (1)?(OG)? or 360. they are people with mobile devices majority of people have, that get bored and want a fun break. I'm not saying angry birds a shit game, but its a game for that demographic. When we all got our first smartphones it was all about what apps are on here etc etc. my mobile device is like a computer etc etc, but now days, everything has a 'smart ' feature.. yet people but a new iPhone every year, people that just want a new iPhone. However, the cost of a new console is lower than an iPhone outright, and the people that want to buy it at premium price, are gamers. not people that are not sure if they should pay $0.99 for a simple game, but people that want to play AAA prices to play AAA games, cause its a hobby, and interest, a passion, and just like car enthusiast or sports fans, the fans of the conceptual idea will follow, and they will tell their friends to follow too. Even if all 3 of these consoles sell less than previous generations, they are still an entirely different product to a tablet or any dort of mobile device. Oh and before you throw the whole "Angry birds is on xbox" or some other casual port like that, its there because people bought it on their phone and they will buy it again, cause its cheap, and its quick and its not what drives the gaming industry at all. To even think that the dawn of mobile gaming is destroying traditional gaming models is such a narrow minded view. Gaming is just becoming bigger and may even become the integral media of choice in the next couple of decades. People buy mobile games, people buy consoles at launch, the thing is the mobile industry isn't taking those people away, they own devices with touch screens because its the norm now. Oh an casual gamers? Dude its not hard for them, they literally have a plethora of shit aimed towards them, shit thats casual. So if they are a casual gamer, they will enjoy the fuck out of things thrown their way, and by doing that the impact they have on the more 'hardcore' as you say gamers is not a thing, at all. Because if it was, then why is there even a ps4 or xbox one? i mean iPhone came out like 6 or so years ago man.. and those peeps that are all like "yay apps on my phone!!", they never had an xbox, or a ps3. So why concern yourself and get this kinda doomsday attitude about the next stage in console gaming... Its happening, we have sick hardware and if you don't think it will be a success(cause thats important yeah? like the first xbox and gamecube sold similar numbers they were pathetic when you compare them to the ps2, but both produced such fun experiences) Then your focusing on the wrong things man. Play games, love games, respect games of al platforms and types
  • CUFCfan616 - November 14, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    i no rite? Angry Birds iz teh best game eva
  • shawksta - November 14, 2013 6:51 p.m.

    Uh No Sega being a game developer because they were in a load of shit already from their many mistakes. PC is still the superior but enough to get rid of Nintendo and Sony, not by a longshot

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