• Asmodean - February 10, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    I don't see Blizzard wining this, DOTA was never a trade marked and is a community creation. That Valve is now trying to copyright the name as 'DOTA2'makes sense. I fear though this will hurt the community, if Blizzard looses they'll just change their EULA to state that all community made mods are the property of Blizzard. This will in turn push fans away, the better answer should have been Blizzard buying the rights once the mod was popular. It just seems they are crying foul that Valve got there first.
  • AngryToadstool - February 10, 2012 4:51 p.m.

    i know you may be confused about this...but Blizzard isn't trying to stake claim to the name, they're just trying to prevent Valve from having exclusive rights to a name that Valve didn't create. It doesn't matter that Valve hired some of the people that helped create the custom game in the first place, it's not something Valve came up with, so it shouldn't be exclusively owned by them.
  • antiartificial - February 11, 2012 11:40 a.m.

    You may be confused about this too, since you're completely unfamiliar with how trademarks work in the real world demonstrated by your reply. In the US trademarks are first to file. Unless you have a TM, which signifies your intent to competitors, it's not protected. Even then that's a regional TM, not a national TM. Regional has become even more blurry with the internet because with a keystroke your presence is now international. The ® symbol may ONLY be used AFTER the US Government grants a Federal registration certificate. The ® symbol may not be used while the Federal application is pending. Additionally, the ® symbol may only be used in connection with the goods and services listed on the registration certificate. Google "Trademark Law Basics" if you have any questions...
  • Elementium - February 17, 2012 1:57 p.m.

    Be fair.. Who would have thought valve would grab dota? Blizzard has always been for the players.. They could have seen trademarking dota as negative to modders so they left it alone.. Honestly it could go either way but I'm with blizzard.. Dota is based off Warcraft and the dota characters look similar so it could be confused with a blizzard game.. Also I thought blizzard also hired some of the original dota guys?
  • Dakken - February 10, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    Wouldn't Valve be in their rights to do that? Blizzard never officially made Dota. Just the engine more or less. And because DOTA 2 won't be a blizzard engine, and Valve got to the claims first. Blizzard would be kind of screwed and they're just antsy angry cause all their "fans" are leaving them anyway. Blizzard continues to shoot themselves in the foot in my honest opinion. Besides.. If the "Blizzard Dota" is what it looks like in that picture. I'd hate to see the finished product.
  • GhostNappa2k10 - February 10, 2012 10:26 a.m.

    "Certainly, DOTA came out of the Blizzard community... It just seems a really strange move to us that Valve would go off and try to exclusively trademark the term considering it's something that's been freely available to us and everyone in the Warcraft III community up to this point.” So then, Blizzard, why are YOU cashing in on the success of DoTA, with your own version, when it is already freely available to everyone in the Warcraft 3 community?
  • SideOfBeef - February 10, 2012 10:49 a.m.

    Blizzard DOTA is free, it's just a Starcraft 2 custom map. This whole case is just Valve trying to trademark a name they have no right to, and Blizzard trying to keep that name open as it should be.
  • GhostNappa2k10 - February 10, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    I didn't think it was free, I thought they'd charge. Either way though, since the name is free to copyright, and the majority of the original creators now work at Valve, then Valve have every right to copyright the term.
  • ChiefLethal - February 10, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    One thing I've read about when this type of litigation pops up is how companies file lawsuits to protect their intellectual property. Dota may have been created by someone that wasn't Blizzard but Blizzard technically owns it since it was created using proprietary Blizzard software, according to the WC3/editor ToS.
  • Church117 - February 10, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    Exactly this. As far as I remember, anything made with the editor in StarcraftBW, Starcraft 2, and Warcraft 3 are considered property of Blizzard. Now, there may be loopholes with making the maps with a third party editor, but I'm not sure. But, Blizzard "technically" owns all the rights to every map made for WC3 because of the terms of service you agree to when you launch the editor (their editor at least)
  • GhostNappa2k10 - February 10, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    Thing is, is that Blizzard themselves don't actually own DoTA, as it is, as you say, created using Blizzard software, but not BY Blizzard. It was created by the community. Therefore, the name is copyright-free. Not for much longer, if Valve get their way.
  • theimmortalmoo - February 10, 2012 10:23 a.m.

    Can't we all just, get along

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