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  • Ultimadrago - April 19, 2013 9:48 a.m.

    Another parallel, both Comstock andAndrew almost command the player to kill them. They were men who knew what they wanted even unto death. Andrew physically commands the player to kill him with a golf club "Would you Kindly?" Comstock struggles with Elizabeth knowing that Booker will act. If you look at the carvings on the wall in the room before Comstock's you can see all of the events that have happened in illustrations. The final picture shows Comstock at the fountain, where he is prepared to be slain.
  • CitizenWolfie - April 12, 2013 9:48 a.m.

    Not to mention the fact that both cities contain power struggles between charismatic leaders (Comstock and Ryan - themselves both connected to the player's character) and a revolutionary figure (Fitzroy and Atlas/Fontaine). And slightly more tenuous - Booker Dewitt and Big Daddy have the same initials.
  • venomman01 - April 11, 2013 6:16 p.m.

    The part in Bioshock 2 where it shows Rapture through the eyes of the little sisters.. It's pristine look is somewhat similar to Columbia's. I know the city is more or less being destroyed by the Vox towards the end of the game, but some dlc depicting a Rapture-like run down Columbia, complete with Columbia styled splicers and degraded handymen and patriots would be interesting. I found the juxtaposition of the overall beauty of Columbia with the gruesomeness of the combat (Skyhook executions!) made for an experience unlike anything else. As the developers can draw from any possible theoretical universe for a setting, pretty much anything is possible in terms of DLC. Possibly another protagonist even (Booker is cool, but how a more anti-hero type of character? Morally ambiguous works too I guess though.) I was hoping to see a Songbird Boss fight at the end too.
  • VooDooDevil1369 - April 10, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    I believe that by "dying" by baptism Booker ended the Comstock timeline, but the timeline in which Booker denies the baptism still continues, but since Booker was able to cross and converge into these many timelines, he still retains their memories.
  • StuntzMcKenzy - April 10, 2013 6:09 p.m.

    Thank you for making the ending so much less depressing.
  • FreeSnack - April 10, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    What is still depressing though is that the Elizabeth we knew ceased to exist, so there is only Anna now.
  • Bloodstorm - April 10, 2013 8:03 p.m.

    Hows that depressing?
  • Hobogonigal - April 10, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    I think both Bookers die who went to the baptism (the one who took it and the one who didn't) so everything after that point couldn't happen. But the Booker who didn't even go to the baptism is still alive and able to go on and have a daughter anna... or maybe a son andrew??? I love how this ending can be interpreted in so many ways :)
  • BladedFalcon - April 11, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    ...Why would the booker that denies the baptism be killed? The only thing that needs to be prevented is Comstock "rebirth", there is no cause for elizabeth to drown the bookers that didn't accept the baptism.
  • Person5 - April 11, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    And with Comstock dead, Anna was never taken from Booker, thus the scene after the credits.
  • BladedFalcon - April 11, 2013 11:25 a.m.

    Yep, exactly.
  • CitizenWolfie - April 12, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    But what if there was ANOTHER outcome where Booker chooses to be baptised, is drowned by Elizabeth but survives? Comstock could therefore still be "created." With "infinite" universes, it's definitely possible.
  • BladedFalcon - April 12, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    Actually... it isn't. You're forgetting that the moment that Comstock dies in that universe, a paradox is created, because if Comstock never lives to create Columbia, Elizabeth as we know her in that universe would cease to exist as well. Each time Elizabeth kills Comstock, she effectively kills and erases herself from existence as well. If Booker somehow survived the drowning, Elizabeth would immediately notice thanks to the mere fact that she is still alive, and would finish the job.
  • CitizenWolfie - April 12, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    Well, that clears up a few questions I had about the ending, so thanks for that :) However surely killing Booker in the first place creates a paradox? If Comstock is erased from existence in the future, Anna would never become Elizabeth and so Booker would have neither the means or the motive to prevent Comstock being "born" after the baptism.
  • BladedFalcon - April 12, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Exactly, the paradox pretty much erases everything that could have happened as soon as the baptized booker dies, it's the action of being drowned that creates the paradox, so everything regarding Columbia and Elizabeth and all that future is erased. But up until Booker is drowned, elizabeth is pretty much there, basically, she exists up until booker is drowned. And well, the vision of multiple Elizabeths leave me to understand that she probably used her many instances to seek all the possible universes in which Booker accepts the baptism, and drown him in all of those, ensuring that only universes in which booker denied the baptism remained.
  • GarcianSmith - April 10, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    Great article! I just about fucking love this game in all the ways legally possible. Oh, I don't know if anyone's seen this (link to my own personal Kinja blog, because I am a whore): http://danentwistle.kinja.com/news-on-bioshock-infinites-dlc-incoming-472183318 Steam's displaying "DLCA Placeholder" achievements when you view global stats. Could this mean DLC is imminent? Probably.
  • BladedFalcon - April 10, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    Nice details, though at first, I thought the article would also focus on some of the direct callbacks or connections to the first Bioshock. Such as the Songbird posters in Bioshock, as well as the fact that the wrench Elizabeth uses to clock Booker in the face is the exact same one that Jack uses as a weapon for the first bioshock XD
  • Fox_Mulder - April 10, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    I noticed Elizabeth's wrench too, but not the Songbird poster. Good eye!
  • Bloodstorm - April 10, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Songbird posters?

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