GR Debate Mario


  • DoctorGordonFreeman - July 12, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    I'm sick of people giving this game shit. All of the complaints I'm hearing about this game simply aren't legit things to say until the full retail game is released. And call me a faux-gamer, but I am FREAKING excited to get to play a 3D Mario with my friends! Yeah, 2D marios are basically broken when played multiplayer, but its still freaking hilarious to pick up my friends and chuck them into a pit. And, as was mentioned in this article, bumping into each other will be MUCH less of a problem on a 3D plane. This game is a buy for me, even if it isn't as groundbreaking as previous entries.
  • shawksta - July 17, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    Frankly all the complains i hear around is whinning about it not being like the other games and not actual flaws.
  • DoctorGordonFreeman - August 13, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    ^MMhm. Exactly.
  • rxb - July 8, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    The fact the legitimacy of sm3dw is even being seriously argued must mean its lacking in something. Pulling out the 2009 article was nice move, as was reminding Henry that sm2 isn't a 'proper' Mario. All we can do now is wait till December.
  • shawksta - July 7, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    I just noticed the background in slide 8 has Mountains shaped as Russian Architectures, That design looks nice. Warts Castle in SMB2 was based on Russian Architectures, ZING
  • winner2 - July 6, 2013 2:58 p.m.

    We should merge our collective spirits together to make an evil, amazing game hungry super monster that rests in an alternate dimension. It will require offerings of the best games ever, so devs and publishers just bring closer the wrath of the beast when they pull this shit instead of Galaxy 3. Kind of like that bullshit ritual I'm that cabin in the woods movie.
  • shawksta - July 7, 2013 5:59 p.m.

    Honestly, Galaxy 3 would get more shit for being a 3rd game and Galaxy 2 is perfect as it is as far as what they can do with the concept.
  • J-Fid - July 5, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Is this a legit console Super Mario game? Yes. Is this the legit 3D Super Mario game that follows SM64, Sunshine, and the Galaxy games? Absolutely not.
  • The_Tingler - July 5, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    While I'm prepared to go with Henry's recurrent argument of "it's too soon to write this off", I'm on Dave's side right this instant. If this had been a 3DS game I'd have been very happy as I love 3D Land, but for this to be "the 3D Mario on Wii U" that Nintendo promised cannot represent anything but disappointment. I wanted to be blown away, not see a multiplayer-focused 3DS upgrade with see-through pipes.
  • shawksta - July 6, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Here's a scenario: What if 3D Land didnt exist in the first place? And 3D World was the first thing we saw of the concept?
  • shawksta - July 5, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    Oh geez, that old article Henry mentioned. WOW those comments.
  • rcarrasco121 - July 5, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    I'll probably buy 3D World, but it does look like a game that was intended for the 3DS that was upscaled to HD.
  • shawksta - July 4, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    If anything i just want varied bosses. 3D Land used Bowser, and the Boom/Pom's too repeatedly and thats it. It looks promising with that Snake Boss, especially with having the Cat Suit used (IM LOOKING AT YOU BOOMERANG MARIO). Too bad since its going in a progressive route, it wont have any minibosses like usual 3D Mario's but in return the bosses themselves should be well made. We havent had a real boss that wasnt a Koopaling(Despite how great the Boss Idea's were in NSMBU) since Galaxy 2 so it makes me hype.
  • Tony Wilson - July 4, 2013 5:50 p.m.

    I agree with Dave, though for none of the reasons listed here. To me, a true 3D Mario game is a collect-a-thon: large levels with Stars (or Shine Sprites) to find. That's what Super Mario 64 was - exploring large levels (that felt like worlds at the time) to find a new Star each time. It was almost mission-based. The same goes for Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy. Basically, a true 3D Mario game is, in my opinion, a platformer focused on collecting, a la Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, or the upcoming A Hat in Time. Super Mario 3D World tasks you with running through courses from A to B. I'd rather start at point A and have to find a new point B (a collectible) each time.
  • The_Tingler - July 5, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    I am very happy you mentioned A Hat In Time! Seriously, anyone who's interested in the N64 days of Mario, Banjo-Kazooie, and Donkey Kong 64 need to have that game on their radar.
  • Desann - July 4, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    3D World reminds me of Malibu Stacy from the early years of the Simpsons. It's the exact same game as the last one, but it's got a new hat (cat suit). Still, people are falling over themselves with anticipation for it, just like the latest Malibu Stacy. The same goes for pretty much all of the stuff Nintendo's showed at E3, too; it doesn't make sense to me. People rip on Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed for doing this, and while I believe they are guilty to a point, no one does it to the degree Nintendo is doing it. Like Henry said, the fact that Peach is a playable character means Nintendo is actually going to have to give the game a different premise than the stock "Bowser kidnaps the Princess" one that they've been using for 27 years. Imagine if each game in the Call of Duty franchise had the exact same characters and story every single time. No one does it like Nintendo. And I never thought that someone could seriously say they felt that a Mario game could be "dumbed down for the masses." That's hilarious. Mario games have always been the epitome of appealing to the masses. You can't get more dumbed down than that. That's not to say they aren't good games or anything, of course. It's just ridiculous to think that there's anything in them TO dumb down, when they're already the king of appealing to the lowest-common denominator.
  • BladedFalcon - July 4, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    That's a very ignorant statement to make. Are you seriously implying that Super Mario bros 3 and Super Mario World were easy, dumbed down games? Honestly, Mario games have only been dumbed down to the masses with the "New Suoer mario" branded games. Before that, they may not have been super hardcore platformers, but they were definitey not walk in the parks, or geared to te lowest common denominator.
  • jeremycarrier - July 4, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Super Mario World is stupidly easy.
  • BladedFalcon - July 4, 2013 4:58 p.m.

    Not the star levels...
  • Redeater - July 4, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    If you haven't replayed them lately you will probably change your mind once you do. I used to think they were really hard when I was a kid but bypassed them easily a few years ago. That said, anyone who thinks Mario games aren't challenging doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. There is 2 ways to play Mario. You can beat it and you can complete it. I'm not bragging but I have beaten a LOT of the "hardest" games on max difficulty. The ones I always find the biggest challenge are completing any of the last 4-5 Mario games 100%. If you can tell me you beat that final level inMario Galaxy 2 without breaking a sweat.....well you are a better gamer than I.

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