Xbox 720 details may have been leaked in huge document

There is little reason for them to make another console. Better graphics are nice but 300 dollars is something I'm not willing to pay, which is kind of the reason I don't PC game all that much. Make one system for the entirety then after about a decade or so make another one. People keep talking about how that new Watch Dogs can't be on the current system because of how good it looks. I could have said the same thing about GTA IV and then again about Crysis 2. Oh wait, Crysis 3 is coming out and it looks better than the game before! I see no reason that they should make another system. Upgrade the Kinect? Fine. I don't use it at all so why should I be forced to buy something I don't want to get an awesome game? If they do decide to make another console, I may just cut console gaming out of my life for good and just keep upgrading a decked out PC till I am crotchety and start saying to my great grandkids about the time before WW5 when gaming was still done with out minds or something else totally outlandish.

The 360 launched back in 2005 and according to these rumours the new one will appear in 2013 at the earliest making this the longest console cycle of all time. Following the kind of mindset in your post we would still be playing on the NES just because the games improved with the years. Think about it this way: If the games look good now, think about how they'll look on the next system. The PS2 wasn't abandoned on PS3's launch and the DS just got an awesome Pokemon game so it's not like you have to buy the new consoles immediately :)

Well awesome consoles would have been saved while shitty ones were put where they belonged (NES was great, I am in no way calling it shit, this is for the here and now). What I'm talking about is the mass online for gaming now. During 11/11/11 when Skyrim was released, massive amounts of patching and updating occurred due to Bethesda's insanely awesome practices of keeping good games good and possibly making them better. Skyrim is awesome but when first released was plagued with bugs. Now, the game is more polished and most of the bugs have been removed as well as adding new (and useful) things to the free updates like the newest mounted combat. What I'm talking about is constant updating. Every so often, the 360 has received updates. Three of which drastically changed the look and layout of the console itself, starting from the "file folder" when you first bought the 360, now to the slightly more internet-y update of now. If they updated gaming systems, there would be little need for us to buy another console for massively over priced stuff ie. PS3's release price of 600 and the 3DS aka the first handheld device to hit 300. If they made consoles more like PCs (I am not a PC gamer nor do I condone people who say PC gaming is better) in which you could more or less easily swap out the standard parts for better ones ie. new graphics cards and such. This would be otherwise slightly difficult but you can see where I'm going with this. Instead of buying a 300 dollar box of wires only to have to buy another one a couple of years later because they decided not to keep the good going, I would simply switch out my outdated card for something better at a much cheaper price than a new console. This way, I can keep my console for about 20 years till the newest console comes out which is leagues more powerful and better and the cycle continues. My point being that we as gamers aren't rich people and don't like it when a thing is released, we buy it only to find out the price has dropped significantly or that a new one is coming out just around the corner. You don't believe me still? Well when did the 3DS come out? 2011. Oh wait, there is a rumor that a newer more different "4DS" is coming out. These rumors have not been said true but if they are, then I wasted 160 bucks on something that will become obsolete soon. As a gamer, I expect more bang for my buck. If I'm going to shell out my hard earned cash then I better be paid back in full. It's sad to see the Wii never really launched off and its kind of messed up/awesome that a new one is coming out. Awesome that it is basically a better Wii and messed up because the Wii U should have come out first because then we would have the awesome games the Wii U will have instead of the stuff that the Wii had.

suonds amazeing and might b the most best consale of all time seruoisely it will b way more beter then any stuped systam nitedno or sony makes and xobx is the true maker of innevation i beleive the that next genreation of systams will only b 2 and those is xobx 720 and ipad

Wait until all the facts are in.

"Awesome pokemon game released on the DS" I begged a differ. I hate when they introduce step knock offs of the original games.

Oh my god what is wrong with you? Try using punctuation, grammar, and a valid opinion.

June 14, 2012: President Obama signs an executive order to create a working group, the "Broadband Deployment on Federal Property" group, in order to address the need to spread broadband wider across federal properties. The intent is to make a requirement on spreading broadband across all the properties, which is 30% of the U.S., and which by default, would bring broadband pretty much corner to corner of the United States. At the same time was announced a new public-private partership called U.S. Ignite, designed to propagate the spread further. And that is just the U.S., and only 2 examples of many. That doesn't mean it will end up happening. But people ARE "paying attention to the need of upgrading the telecom systems of the world."

For people doubting it for this reason or that, and in fact for anyone making any opinions based on what is said in this document, keep in mind that this document is from Aug 2010, and it's a VERY early "roadmap" document. There has been a metric shitload of changes since then. In other words, don't give a damn about them saying they were targeting a $300 price point 2 years ago. Of course they would be targeting that price. That is traditionally the golden price point everyone shoots for. Except Sony. All in all, it's a fun read, but don't get too invested in the specifics. And it is still floating around out there. I would link to it, but since it is on "rival" websites, not sure if that would be cool or not. It isn't like it's a secret or anything on where to find it.

if its kotaku: 1. why are you going on this shithole 2. dont even post it

Sony learned from their $600 ps3, I believe. They won't be goign that route again if they wish to remain competitive.

Nobody writes that bad, I think he is pulling your leg.

Let me see an open world game with a full development cycle on the next generation of hardware and I'll tell you if I'll buy the thing or not.

It was a bit hard for me to tell what point you were trying to get across. No offense, but you should paragraph and separate idea's. As for gamers not being able to afford it, I doubt that. Sixty bucks a pop new is quite a bit, and even if it was used, I doubt "most" gamers wait until games drop down to 20 dollars a game. To be frank, gaming is one of the most expensive hobbies of entertainment ever, just the idea of having a system, television, and games obviously infers that your ahead of the game in my opinion, but I'm talking about what I think the majority is although. One another note, I think I may have found your account on Raptr as well, and by the amount of games you have, I doubt buying a new console would be a problem from what I see. Also, by the amount of PC games you play, I would indeed say that you play the PC quite a lot. As for the consoles becoming obsolete, it's been seven and a half years since the xbox 360 was released, so how is that wasted money? That's seven years of games made for your system in the majority. If it's one thing consoles do, it's keep gaming less expensive. I want to talk on this matter more with you, feel free to tell me if I said anything that's incorrect or you disagree with. I'll await your reply, John. Is that right?

I disagree, the only reason consoles even have a lifespan at all is because developers makes games for consoles specifically in mind. I would say that the time for change is now in my opinion. I don't know about others, but still paying sixty-dollars for a game on hardware that's seven and a half years old is a bit weird for me. I would much rather be paying sixty-dollars on a newer console that creates more possibilities for developers.

Basics? That would mean not revolutionizing and remaining stale and predictable.

299$!!! that is extremely cheap im definitely going to get it. So glad i didnt get that piece of trash PS3 which was basically sony asking you to fork over a 24 carot gold bar for a black toaster with ps3 engraved on it. nintendo are a good company though just not sonyt so dont think im being racist lol. but lets be honest here sonys next console will be late again and probably cost 1000$ with its new 'green ray' technology lol. screw sony for me and microsoft all the way. they have never let me down.

that was the creepiest post ever...u watch-dogged the shit out of him. found his account, figured out and called him by his first name and are making assumptions about his financial status based on scouring the internet for his account. then you ask him to come talk to u in private all silence-of-lambs-ey. you are def the type of dude who scares off every female in the room, u think youre being "sweet" but come off as a creepy ass stalker. "hey wendy, yeah i watched you leaving walmart the other day. Is that where you work? i followed you up the road, hope you dont mind, you have a really nice house! We have alot in common, i saw a 3DS in your backseat, I play videogames too!! I know we just met, but i feel like Ive known you my whole life and we were meant to meet! Want to come talk in private in the back of my windowless van behind the trashbins at olive garden? see you then cant wait LOL luv ya bye!"

The only thing that this proporded Xbox 720 needs to be 1000000000000000000000000000000x better is A BETTER NAME MICROSOFT IF YOU CAN HERE THIS PLEASE DO NOT CALL YOUR NEXT GAMING CONSOLE THE XBOX 720 IT IS THE WORST NAME EVER!

Ya sorry, kinda got caught up in the moment. Yes that is my name and yes you found my Raptr account. If you would look at the specs on those PC games, you'll see they are within my range of having a 3 gig of RAM and par to sub par video card. Also, just about all of those games are on Steam so I can delete them then reinstall them later with no consequence. The reason I don't play a lot of PC games is because my computer can't handle it. On the other hand, the reason I don't use that many 360 games is because I'm kind of poor. Yes I can afford to buy a game for about 60 bucks every now and again but sometimes buying an entirely new piece of hardware is just out of the question. I had a Xbox for the longest time and when the 360 rolled around I was happy they let me use my original games on it. Right now, the most expensive things I'm looking to buy are either a new PC or the Wii U. I was saddened to hear that the Wii U doesn't support Gamecube games. They said they may put them for on demand (or whatever the Nintendo equivalent is) but that is a may for them. I don't mind buying a new system, I just think its really messed up how they will just discontinue making games for their previous system. Kinda like with the PS2. Say what you will about outdated stuff but there were some good PS2 games even by today's standards. Its also messed up that a lot of those great games can't be played on the PS3 without buying them from the store if they are actually there. Which makes me ask, will all of the games/content I purchased on LIVE be turned over to the new console? I bought two different games on LIVE and tried to get them back a while later and for some reason they were not even there, so that's about 40 bucks I won't get back. If they make all my stuff able to be transferred to the next console, ya I'll be happy. But chances are that isn't going to happen. Personally I don't understand why they don't just copy Steam's idea and have it so you can always download your games at any given time.

Lol I don't think he like hacked my account. There's a reason I use "robotdickens" with most of my accounts. I posted something about how I would get a Raptr account on this website with this same username so I don't think that's private knowledge. Also, my gamertag is has my first and last name in it and I'm too lazy to change it and it's linked up to my Raptr account so people can see it. No big deal I say.

i know he didnt hack your account, im saying the fact that he spent that much time looking into who you are just over a single post on an IGN forum is ridiculous. just like that example i used with wendy, technically nothing there is illegal or "private" data, its just creepy that someone would do all that. he must really dig you based off your one paragraph cause he put alot of effort into researching ur tits off